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Old February 6th 08, 03:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message
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Other than that, I can see no reason why you should dismiss the skills
of these riders. You may think they would be lunch meat in your
favourite local crit, but even at that you might be wrong, since I think
these guys pack some pretty serious cardio.


I'm not "dismissing the skills" but instead actually looking at them. Tell
me Ryan, how long would it take you to learn how to jump from one railroad
track to another without slipping off of either one?

My point is that you cannot make a sport out of something that requires a
one in a million sense of balance. Trials shouldn't be hop and skip but
should be like motorcycle trials (and remember that there are three types of
motorcycle trials - "Trials", Scottish Trials and ISDT). A sport should be
something that the vaste majority of people can accomplish.

Bicycle trials should be more like the Scottish Six Days and not like
this
stop and go stuff.


Even motorcycle trials look like this stop and go stuff.



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Old February 6th 08, 04:06 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Mike Jacoubowsky
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My point is that you cannot make a sport out of something that requires a
one in a million sense of balance.


There's a lot more to this than a "one in a million sense of balance." We're
talking extraordinary confidence in ones' ability to do something as well. I
don't see this as that much different from the guy who constantly manages to
come from nowhere and win the sprint. It's not just raw physical talent that
does that. It's a control of your mind & body that's even more important
than some freakish sense of balance.

It's someone saying "I do this because it's who I am. It's what I do. Why
should it surprise someone that I'm the best at it?"

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com


"Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote in message
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"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message
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Other than that, I can see no reason why you should dismiss the skills
of these riders. You may think they would be lunch meat in your
favourite local crit, but even at that you might be wrong, since I think
these guys pack some pretty serious cardio.


I'm not "dismissing the skills" but instead actually looking at them. Tell
me Ryan, how long would it take you to learn how to jump from one railroad
track to another without slipping off of either one?

My point is that you cannot make a sport out of something that requires a
one in a million sense of balance. Trials shouldn't be hop and skip but
should be like motorcycle trials (and remember that there are three types
of motorcycle trials - "Trials", Scottish Trials and ISDT). A sport should
be something that the vaste majority of people can accomplish.

Bicycle trials should be more like the Scottish Six Days and not like
this
stop and go stuff.


Even motorcycle trials look like this stop and go stuff.





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Old February 7th 08, 03:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
RicodJour
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On Feb 6, 10:28 am, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

My point is that you cannot make a sport out of something that requires a
one in a million sense of balance. Trials shouldn't be hop and skip but
should be like motorcycle trials (and remember that there are three types of
motorcycle trials - "Trials", Scottish Trials and ISDT). A sport should be
something that the vaste majority of people can accomplish.


Bike trials is not motorcycle trials. You can do things on either one
that can't be done on the other. There's no reason to expect the
sports to evolve towards the same techniques.
You're stuck in old school. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bike_tr....2C_New_School

BTW, check out ROAM by The Collective to see a nice Ryan Leech
segment.

R
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Old February 7th 08, 04:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Feb 5, 10:17*pm, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com wrote:

I don't see that as "skill" so much as a specialty that doesn't relate to
real bicycle riding.


Obviously, the kids have long since covered "riding" and got bored
with it...

Bicycle trials should be more like the Scottish Six Days and not like this
stop and go stuff.


Whippersnapper Factor increase noted.

You were doing better when you admired, TK. But, as usual, then it was
back to chewing on your spleen again.

But thanks for posting, I loved the rail-jumping stunts. Reminds me of
a guy I worked with who trod catwalks with total aplomb, while I
quivered and hung on to anything I could. He told me he used to ride
his bike (would have been a 40's or 50's fat tire single speed) "for
miles" down railroad tracks. I never doubted, after seeing him "walk
the plank". But, like I said, the kids have gone on from just
"riding". --D-y

 




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