Bicyclist Fatalities in AZ 2009

On 12/3/2010 9:42 AM, SMS wrote:
On 12/3/2010 6:06 AM, Duane Hébert wrote:

I keep telling myself that I will just ignore his bull****. But then
he jumps in to some other conversation that I'm having and starts his
crap again. Eventually I give in and reply.

Take a deep breath and resist the urge to reply as you're just feeding
into the problem.

+1

On 12/3/2010 9:46 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Frank Krygowski:
Why should a customer have to search online to
learn how to get a real live human being on the phone?


Bumper sticker: "This is America. Why do I have to press '1' for
English?"

It's probably better than "Press 1 for whatever language or wait for
english."

Here we get
"Press 8 for English ou pour la francais svp faire l'une"

Then you press 8 and after a while someone answers and says
"Bonjour, puis-je vous aidez?" And then you say hello, est-que
vous parlez l'anglais? And they say "Mais bien sur I am speaking the
english"

You get used to it. The francophones here have bumper stickers
saying "On est a Quebec. Pour quoi faire l'une pour francais?"
(among other things)

On 03/12/2010 15:03, Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/3/2010 9:46 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Frank Krygowski:
Why should a customer have to search online to
learn how to get a real live human being on the phone?


Bumper sticker: "This is America. Why do I have to press '1' for
English?"

It's probably better than "Press 1 for whatever language or wait for
english."

Here we get
"Press 8 for English ou pour la francais svp faire l'une"

Then you press 8 and after a while someone answers and says
"Bonjour, puis-je vous aidez?" And then you say hello, est-que
vous parlez l'anglais? And they say "Mais bien sur I am speaking the
english"

You get used to it. The francophones here have bumper stickers
saying "On est a Quebec. Pour quoi faire l'une pour francais?"
(among other things)

Ever heard of Miles Kington? (or as he is now affectionately referred to
in Private Eye, the late Kilometres Kington)

On 12/3/2010 6:46 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Frank Krygowski:
Why should a customer have to search online to
learn how to get a real live human being on the phone?


Bumper sticker: "This is America. Why do I have to press '1' for
English?"

Actually, in many cases you're better off pressing 2 for Spanish because
you'll get a call center in the U.S. staffed by bi-lingual Americans
versus being connected to an English-speaking call center in India. Of
course some companies have opted for bi-lingual support staffs in South
America which doesn't help. I wonder if India is trying to have their
citizens learn Spanish.

On 12/3/2010 10:15 AM, Clive George wrote:
On 03/12/2010 15:03, Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/3/2010 9:46 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Frank Krygowski:
Why should a customer have to search online to
learn how to get a real live human being on the phone?


Bumper sticker: "This is America. Why do I have to press '1' for
English?"

It's probably better than "Press 1 for whatever language or wait for
english."

Here we get
"Press 8 for English ou pour la francais svp faire l'une"

Then you press 8 and after a while someone answers and says
"Bonjour, puis-je vous aidez?" And then you say hello, est-que
vous parlez l'anglais? And they say "Mais bien sur I am speaking the
english"

You get used to it. The francophones here have bumper stickers
saying "On est a Quebec. Pour quoi faire l'une pour francais?"
(among other things)

Ever heard of Miles Kington? (or as he is now affectionately referred to
in Private Eye, the late Kilometres Kington)

Hadn't but a quick search found this quote:
Man is the only creature that seems to have the time and energy to pump
all his sewage out to sea, and then go swimming in it.

Seems like someone to read.

Tad McClellan wrote:
:Tim McNamara wrote:
: In article ,
: David Scheidt wrote:

: Current versions of tin support UTF-8. I do use UTF-8, but tin
: doesn't insert headers to show that unless there is non-ascii text,
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: like this gratuitous ?,


: Hmm, if you consider curiosity and interest gratuitous then we'll just
: leave it at that.


:Your skin is too thin here, it would appear.

:It seems clear to me that David was not saying that your post was
:gratuitous, but that he was including a gratuitous "non-ascii text"
:character (perhaps rendered as a space or question mark)
:so that tin would detect it and so that you could then look at
:the post's headers.

That's exactly correct. The gratuitous non-ascci was ☣, utf-8 E2 98
A3, the bio-hazard symbol,
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2623/index.htm, which
explains the snark about it belonging elsethread.



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sig 48

On Dec 3, 6:50*am, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 12/3/2010 12:40 AM, Bill Sornson wrote:





?"DirtRoadie" wrote in message
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On Dec 2, 4:37 pm, T m Sherm n _ ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 12/2/2010 11:32 AM, DirtRoadie wrote: On Dec 2, 9:15 am, Frank
wrote:

Falsified quote below.

{I don't waste much time thinking.}
- Frank Krygowski

Yes, Frank, we know.
DR

... the best argument yet on considering reforming
the Internet to make anonymous posting much more difficult.

Reforming the INTERNET?
Um, OK, Just you and Frank get to use it, right?
And anyone with disagrees with you two is barred?
So have you had these extreme right wing leanings all your life?

Ummm... Who wants to regulate and control every aspect of people's
lives, behaviors and even speech? Think light bulbs, salt, trans fats,
vehicles, street signs (!), internet ("neutrality"), media ("fairness"),
etc. etc. etc. Hint: it ain't the right wing.

Bill "but keep on putting Frank in his place; THAT you got right" S.

No comment on libel (falsifying quotations) and threatening to stalk in
real life (contacting co-workers about a Usenet discussion) by anonymous
posters?

The silence by almost everyone is deafening - I guess the silent ones
approve of such behavior?

That seems likely. I doubt that anyone else is as poorly informed as
you are.
Tom, your ignorance is without bounds.
If you would actually like to try to make a point I will be glad to
address it.
You are a true Krygowskian disciple with the same sort of "Reverse
Polish Logic."
Thus far you have thrown in a few inflammatory words without the
remotest understanding of what they mean.
Start with "libel."
Please articulate your case. You have used the word but have not
actually said anything of substance so far.
And then please address the significance of Krygowski lying and
misquoting others, as he regularly does. You clearly have a double
standard here.

DR

On Dec 3, 7:00*am, Duane Hébert wrote:
On 12/2/2010 11:54 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

[Another fictional novelette of his usual nonsensical rhetoric]

To which Duane patiently replied in part:

I don't see that you replied to this other than that I should find
stats. *And then you went on to argue based on your personal experience..
Isn't this what you bitch about with everyone else?

Are you just trying to antagonize me so that I will lash out
as other have? *Why do you insist on chiming in when I'm replying
to someone else? *Is this your mission?

Here's a suggestion. *Why don't you create an imaginary poster that you
can use to preach at. *You can supply the arguments that you want to
contest and then ridicule them when they disagree with you. *Who
would know the difference?

Very thorough, accurate and nicely stated. The difficulty is that
Frank, being "unencumbered by the thought process"* remains in denial.

You are preaching to the choir, as am I.

DR

*http://www.shamelesscommerce.com/v/v...ATINT-BL-2.jpg

http://dangerdanger.com/d2ctad.jpg

You do have to wonder how Frank rates having T-shirts.

On 12/3/2010 12:44 AM, James Steward wrote:
[...]
I've not used a chainsaw for as many hours as I've cycled, strangely,
and I'm always very careful with it, so I've not had an accident using
it.

Thankfully chainsaws danger is easier to limit with careful use.[...]

That what you would think! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Per Duane Hébert:

You get used to it. The francophones here have bumper stickers
saying "On est a Quebec. Pour quoi faire l'une pour francais?"
(among other things)

When we were vacationing on Lake Memphremagot some years back, we
drove into Montreal.

Somebody had actually climbed up on all the overhead signs on the
freeway (the huge green ones that seem about 100 feet in the air)
and crudely spray-painted out the English and painted in the
French.

Guy in the next cabin was a mid-level manager for the Canadian
Pacific Railroad. His observation was that it was a disservice
to kids to raise them speaking only French in Quebec. They get
jobs in a company like CP, rise to a certain level, and never go
any further bc they cannot function outside of the province.
--
PeteCresswell