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What model recumbent bike is fastes and suitable for commuting?
Vytautas wrote: For me matters two things mostly - I need to drive faster than with a traditional bike and if it is more comfortable so that's perfect. Is it so what I wish? Can you say what ordinary a recumbent bike with a fit driver is allways faster than a rider with a tradicional bike? What sort of bent schould it be? Please specify models if you can. You could take a trip to the other end of the Baltic Sea. The Leitra [1] is faster on flat to level terrain, more comfortable (especially in cold winter rain and has more cargo capacity than a regular bicycle. [1] http://www.leitra.dk/. -- Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley |
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What model recumbent bike is fastes and suitable for commuting?
"Jon Meinecke" wrote in message news:1127408472.9ae0337cdae7df6cab2b462a8d2ddbb0@t eranews... [...] One of the supreme mysteries of the universe is why Jon Meinecke and I do not get along better. I agree with so very many of his views on recumbents. I attribute it all to chemistry, ever the stumbling block to most human relationships. My main objection to him is that he wants to dictate what is acceptable on this forum and what is not acceptable. When he does not approve of you, he goes to your ISP to try to get you canceled. This is the most scurrilous conduct that I can imagine. Therefore, beware of Jon Meinecke! He is a weasel who will strike when you least expect it. -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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What model recumbent bike is fastes and suitable for commuting?
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:47:48 -0500, "Edward Dolan"
pouted and cried: alagator tears because he cannot be the sole authority hree. Too bad, babieboi. jim |
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Ok so one more quistion
As you ride often on your recumbents what happens more often - when you overtake upright bikers or they overtake you? I think this will show the real life reflection. |
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What model recumbent bike is fastes and suitable for commuting?
I noticed Gold Rush quite a good bike.
Is Gold Rush suitable for riding in a city streets (due to its long wheelbase)? How do you feel climbing up hills with Gold Rush? And for short rides like 2-5km till 10km in a city probably best solution is upright bike? What do you say? What's your opinion? I mean so because with the upright you can speed up after stop more quickly and to manoeuvre between the cars and turns in the streets easier than with the bent? Isn't it so? Do anybody held competitions with upright bikers in town to get from one point to another? Who was the winner? |
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Peter Clinch wrote: I would say that's the Wrong Question. If you want to go as fast as possible (and it sounds to me like you do) then you want fairings. No, i don't want to breake the world seed record, i just wanna be faster that I am now with my upright (I have touring bike) if it is possible. I average on a tour 22km/h let's say on 40km tour. On short runs I manage to make 40km/h and say maybe 45-50 if the wind is ok. But this just for the very short period like 10-30sek. I imagine I need two differnt bikes then: one fast for touring, and another one for the city roads. Basicly I got one idea to my head that for the stop and go and a lot of turns maybe the upright is better than recumbent? And for touring the recumbents takes the lead versus uprights? Touring with 30km/h average speed that sounds very fascinating. My bike is an HPVel Streetmachine GT, which is slower than my old upright tourer, but vastly more capable as a touring machine do you want to say that with the same load of stuff on tour you are slower with streetmachine, that with an old upright tourer? Note that some fairings double as cargo tailboxes, which make the bike more practical for loads as well as more aerodynamic. But this adds weight and cost, of course... if you gain extra speed so weight doesn't mean much. |
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Vytautas wrote:
No, i don't want to breake the world seed record, i just wanna be faster that I am now with my upright (I have touring bike) if it is possible. Easiest way is replace or supplement your upright tourer with an upright racer... Beyond that, a suitably sporty recumbent should be quicker too. What some have found is that a 'bent gives more consistent times as it is less affected by wind variation. But it'll be quicker still if it's faired. I imagine I need two differnt bikes then: one fast for touring, and another one for the city roads. The best tool for each individual job is good, but not /necessary/. For example, Dave Larrington (a frequent poster here) commutes on a Speedmachine with a tail-box. Though he races a Baron, the Speedmachine is /not/ a slow bike, and should be quicker than an upright tourer most of the time. that for the stop and go and a lot of turns maybe the upright is better than recumbent? Easier to put your foot down on many recumbents, and if it's a trike you don't need to put it down at all. Stop/Start isn't any easier on an upright. Some 'bents don't have terrific turning circles, others do. And for touring the recumbents takes the lead versus uprights? I would never want to do a tour on an upright again if I had the choice of suitable 'bent. It is an order of magnitude more comfortable. do you want to say that with the same load of stuff on tour you are slower with streetmachine, that with an old upright tourer? If it's a /huge/ load the Streetmachine would probably win out, because the handling is unaffected by loading it up. For light loads the upright was quicker, but that isn't a simple upright/recumbent thing, it's a specific EBC Country/HPVel Streetmachine GT thing. The Streetmachine is not a quick bike, nor is it meant to be. The same company's Speedmachine, Randonneur, Grasshopper and Scorpion designs will all go quicker if you want to go quicker, and all can carry touring loads even if not as much or as stably as the Streetmachine. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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mort wrote:
Look, I would never go back to an upright, but we're not doing the OP any favors if we imply that riding a fully faired bent on a long distance speed attempt is anything like commuting. No, but it does demonstrate that the extra weight of a fairing does not /necessarily/ make a bike slower overall just because there is a hill anywhere on the route. How easy is it to stop/start/signal/carry stuff on a recumbent that is faired for speed? Velomobiles are good at all of that, but they are heavy. But as has been pointed out, if you can make up for the weight with the better aerodynamics then you can be overall better off. And velomobiles like the Quest /are/ designed for speed as well as practicality. I did make a point of using conditionals in there, and in my previous post. It isn't a *given* that you'll be quicker, but similarly it isn't a given that you'll be slower. And I'm not an expert on Lithuanian geography, but I do know it's mostly lowlands with less than 1000' of relief over the whole country's 65,000 km^2, which may well be better set for a faired 'bent than other places. p.s. I went to St. Andrews University for a year in the 80s, and was briefly a member of the Dundee Wheelers. Fabulous place to ride Indeed, though not short of "character building" hills. The Wheelers are too fit and fast for me! ;-) Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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Thanks all of you gyus. Your answers was very important for me. You
helped me a lot to orient in not a simple world of a recumbent bikes. Yeah, Lithuania is mostly plain but you still can meet hills like anywhere else. The roads are wide and perfect. For sure I am not seeking a recumbent for climbing just mountains. For now I realized for sure that traveling for a longer tour like 30-50 and more km the best is recumbent. And for shorter trips in the city on a good road I am not sure what is better - a race bike or certain recumbent like HP Speedmashine or Gold Rush. Probably now I will look hardly to test a recumbent to see how I feel. Is 3500$ not too much to pay for a Gold Rush? Is it worth it? regards Vytautas Sutkus |
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Vytautas wrote:
Probably now I will look hardly to test a recumbent to see how I feel. Note that recumbents differ far more than upright bikes in the way they feel. I would personally be very reluctant to buy a recumbent I hadn't tried out first: aside from anything else the seats are different on different bikes and people are more or less comfortable on different seat designs. My partner has a Nazca Fiero and I have the HPVel Streetmachine, both have different seat designs, we both prefer the one we use to the other. Neither of us found the much more adjustable BodyLink seat to be as comfortable as the ones we use, even though it is more comfortable "on paper". You only know these things by trying in person. I'd be inclined to see if you can get to somewhere with a good range of recumbents to try (the Netherlands would seem to be the obvious start, especially if you can get a cheap flight on a budget airline) and have a go on everything you can find. You'll soon have a much better idea of what performance you can expect than any amount of reading will give. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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