The dog from hell story I need to give them more credit

I am normally a runner who rides a road bike one a week or so for may
20-30 mile ride. Today I get up and do a 7 mile run in 1 hour and then
decide to take a nice decent ride in the county on the bike. It was
windy from the east so I set out knowing I get good pickup when I turn
around.

I was about about 11 miles and see two large farms dogs running around
the road by I assume, the place they live. I think they may have been
yellow labs and seem a decent size. Normally dogs don't bother me if I
can past the initial sprint they have I can out run them they usually
drop pretty fast. Well I got close and did a U turn back with the wind
and they were close but I was quickly well over 20 MPH on the GPS and
after maybe 1/2 mile they were toasted. But not so. I turn up another
road to continue and sure enough they came up behind and again I took
off (side wind) now but now we have gone over 1 mile may close to 1.5
miles. Then I start getting worried these dogs did not give up they just
keep at it. I was getting afraid as I was tired and did not want to get
stuck since some of the roads turn to gravel and that would be my end on
skinny roadbike tires 115psi.

Sure enough the T in the road is back into the wind and this was the
only hard road so no choice. Now I am at least 2 miles with these dogs
still right behind and I was almost ready to give up I was not able to
push into the wind that hard. Well I get going and on a slight uphill
the dog gets close and I gave it everything to pull away about maybe 18
mph or so. Now I have it beat but I have to turn again to get back and
it means going right by the house they seem to be from and they are come
up from behind. It was a mile to get back there but of the dogs manages
to really get behind again still coming behind me.... it was unreal I
have never seen a dog with this much wind we easily had done close to 3
miles. I had one more right turn to get back to the road we started and
have the wind at my back but I was afraid the dog might cut the corner
and still catch up. I don't like to corner fast I am not that good on a
bike. Well I get the corner and then turn it up and for at least another
500 yards at over 25mph the dog was still going but at this point I knew
I had him it was all wind at the back.

The moral is I was seriously afraid and had I not run earlier it would
have been easier to out run them but I am going to respect dogs when I
am tired. I have the macho idea I can run those pups into the ground but
I have never seen anything like these dogs. I have many times had dogs
behind me and maybe for 400 yards the move fast but after that they give
up. It took me another 10 minutes to get my self straight and back into
riding I was toasted.

Anyone had a dog that did this, these pups serious went 3 plus miles of
hard running?
--

Mark Cleary plays Hollenbeck Jazz Guitars
Handmade http://hollenbeckguitar.com/

mark cleary wrote:
I am normally a runner who rides a road bike one a week or so for may
20-30 mile ride. Today I get up and do a 7 mile run in 1 hour and then
decide to take a nice decent ride in the county on the bike. It was
windy from the east so I set out knowing I get good pickup when I turn
around.

I was about about 11 miles and see two large farms dogs running around
the road by I assume, the place they live. I think they may have been
yellow labs and seem a decent size. Normally dogs don't bother me if I
can past the initial sprint they have I can out run them they usually
drop pretty fast. Well I got close and did a U turn back with the wind
and they were close but I was quickly well over 20 MPH on the GPS and
after maybe 1/2 mile they were toasted. But not so. I turn up another
road to continue and sure enough they came up behind and again I took
off (side wind) now but now we have gone over 1 mile may close to 1.5
miles. Then I start getting worried these dogs did not give up they
just keep at it. I was getting afraid as I was tired and did not want
to get stuck since some of the roads turn to gravel and that would be
my end on skinny roadbike tires 115psi.

Sure enough the T in the road is back into the wind and this was the
only hard road so no choice. Now I am at least 2 miles with these dogs
still right behind and I was almost ready to give up I was not able to
push into the wind that hard. Well I get going and on a slight uphill
the dog gets close and I gave it everything to pull away about maybe
18 mph or so. Now I have it beat but I have to turn again to get
back and it means going right by the house they seem to be from and
they are come up from behind. It was a mile to get back there but of
the dogs manages to really get behind again still coming behind
me.... it was unreal I have never seen a dog with this much wind we
easily had done close to 3 miles. I had one more right turn to get
back to the road we started and have the wind at my back but I was
afraid the dog might cut the corner and still catch up. I don't like
to corner fast I am not that good on a bike. Well I get the corner
and then turn it up and for at least another 500 yards at over 25mph
the dog was still going but at this point I knew I had him it was all
wind at the back.
The moral is I was seriously afraid and had I not run earlier it would
have been easier to out run them but I am going to respect dogs when I
am tired. I have the macho idea I can run those pups into the ground
but I have never seen anything like these dogs. I have many times had
dogs behind me and maybe for 400 yards the move fast but after that
they give up. It took me another 10 minutes to get my self straight
and back into riding I was toasted.

Anyone had a dog that did this, these pups serious went 3 plus miles
of hard running?

Next time don't wear your Snausages sox.

On May 25, 9:18*am, mark cleary
Anyone had a dog that did this,

I once had a dog chase me for a few miles.
I lost it by crossing a cattle guard.

Tom Ace

mark cleary wrote:
I am normally a runner who rides a road bike one a week or so for may
20-30 mile ride. Today I get up and do a 7 mile run in 1 hour and then
decide to take a nice decent ride in the county on the bike. It was
windy from the east so I set out knowing I get good pickup when I turn
around.

I was about about 11 miles and see two large farms dogs running around
the road by I assume, the place they live. I think they may have been
yellow labs and seem a decent size. Normally dogs don't bother me [...]

Were the dogs threatening or just running along for fun?

I stop for threatening dogs and give them a face full of Halt™ pepper
spray. If that fails, I carry a collapsible steel baton that can
fracture bones.

On the other hand, we had a friendly lab-retriever mix run with our
group for a long distance. We stopped at a convenience store, and had
someone restrain the dog while we rode off.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
LOCAL CACTUS EATS CYCLIST - datakoll

On 25 May, 17:18, mark cleary wrote:
I am normally a runner who rides a road bike one a week or so for may
20-30 mile ride. Today I get up and do a 7 mile run in 1 hour and then
decide to take a nice decent ride in the county on the bike. It was
windy from the east so I set out knowing I get good pickup when I turn
around.

I was about about 11 miles and see two large farms dogs running around
the road by I assume, the place they live. I think they may have been
yellow labs and seem a decent size. Normally dogs don't bother me if I
can past the initial sprint they have I can out run them they usually
drop pretty fast. Well I got close and did a U turn back with the wind
and they were close but I was quickly well over 20 MPH on the GPS and
after maybe 1/2 mile they were toasted. But not so. I turn up another
road to continue and sure enough they came up behind and again I took
off (side wind) now but now we have gone over 1 mile may close to 1.5
miles. Then I start getting worried these dogs did not give up they just
keep at it. I was getting afraid as I was tired and did not want to get
stuck since some of the roads turn to gravel and that would be my end on
skinny roadbike tires 115psi.

Sure enough the T in the road is back into the wind and this was the
only hard road so no choice. Now I am at least 2 miles with these dogs
still right behind and I was almost ready to give up I was not able to
push into the wind that hard. Well I get going and on a slight uphill
the dog gets close and I gave it everything to pull away about maybe 18
mph or so. Now I have *it beat but I have to turn again to get back and
it means going right by the house they seem to be from and they are come
up from behind. It was a mile to get back there but of the dogs manages
to really get behind again still coming behind me.... it was unreal I
have never seen a dog with this much wind we easily had done close to 3
miles. I had one more right turn to get back to the road we started and
have the wind at my back but I was afraid the dog might cut the corner
and still catch up. I don't like to corner fast I am not that good on a
bike. Well I get the corner and then turn it up and for at least another
500 yards at over 25mph the dog was still going but at this point I knew
I had him it was all wind at the back.

The moral is I was seriously afraid and had I not run earlier it would
have been easier to out run them but I am going to respect dogs when I
am tired. I have the macho idea I can run those pups into the ground but
I have never seen anything like these dogs. I have many times had dogs
behind me and maybe for 400 yards the move fast but after that they give
up. It took me another 10 minutes to get my self straight and back into
riding I was toasted.

Anyone had a dog that did this, these pups serious went 3 plus miles of
hard running?

More likely a bull terrier cross. To go for so long they must have
tasted live flesh. Sort out some sort of weapon always to hand when
nearing this area.

On Mon, 25 May 2009 09:30:11 -0700, "Bill Sornson"
wrote:

Next time don't wear your Snausages sox.

I hate to say it, but Sorni just made me laugh in a good way.

More seriously, if these dogs are such a menace, you would do well to
call or write to the authories in the town in which they live.

I don't encounter dogs in the road much where I ride -- most are
chained or behind fences, but in general if a dog actually scare me I
don't run/ride away - I stare the dog down and move away slowly. Or
yell at the dog suddenly and angrily. But that's just one dog. Groups
of dogs worry me more and I don't know how to deal with that.

In article ,
mark cleary wrote:

I am normally a runner who rides a road bike one a week or so for may
20-30 mile ride. Today I get up and do a 7 mile run in 1 hour and then
decide to take a nice decent ride in the county on the bike. It was
windy from the east so I set out knowing I get good pickup when I turn
around.

I was about about 11 miles and see two large farms dogs running around
the road by I assume, the place they live. I think they may have been
yellow labs and seem a decent size. Normally dogs don't bother me if I
can past the initial sprint they have I can out run them they usually
drop pretty fast. Well I got close and did a U turn back with the wind
and they were close but I was quickly well over 20 MPH on the GPS and
after maybe 1/2 mile they were toasted. But not so. I turn up another
road to continue and sure enough they came up behind and again I took
off (side wind) now but now we have gone over 1 mile may close to 1.5
miles. Then I start getting worried these dogs did not give up they just
keep at it. I was getting afraid as I was tired and did not want to get
stuck since some of the roads turn to gravel and that would be my end on
skinny roadbike tires 115psi.

Sure enough the T in the road is back into the wind and this was the
only hard road so no choice. Now I am at least 2 miles with these dogs
still right behind and I was almost ready to give up I was not able to
push into the wind that hard. Well I get going and on a slight uphill
the dog gets close and I gave it everything to pull away about maybe 18
mph or so. Now I have it beat but I have to turn again to get back and
it means going right by the house they seem to be from and they are come
up from behind. It was a mile to get back there but of the dogs manages
to really get behind again still coming behind me.... it was unreal I
have never seen a dog with this much wind we easily had done close to 3
miles. I had one more right turn to get back to the road we started and
have the wind at my back but I was afraid the dog might cut the corner
and still catch up. I don't like to corner fast I am not that good on a
bike. Well I get the corner and then turn it up and for at least another
500 yards at over 25mph the dog was still going but at this point I knew
I had him it was all wind at the back.

The moral is I was seriously afraid and had I not run earlier it would
have been easier to out run them but I am going to respect dogs when I
am tired. I have the macho idea I can run those pups into the ground but
I have never seen anything like these dogs. I have many times had dogs
behind me and maybe for 400 yards the move fast but after that they give
up. It took me another 10 minutes to get my self straight and back into
riding I was toasted.

Anyone had a dog that did this, these pups serious went 3 plus miles of
hard running?

When a dog accosts me on a ride I immediately dismount,
put the bike between me and the dog, and raise hell.
If I can manage it I call 911 on the cellular telephone.
Then I swear out a complaint with animal control.

--
Michael Press

Sounds like great interval training!

My tiny 7 lb. Yorkshire Terrier, "Lucky" easily did 5 miles with me
when I was skate skiing a couple winters ago. Not quite as fast as
biking perhaps but he's a super athlete in my book. His legs are
barely 6 inches long!

In article ,
mark cleary wrote:

I am normally a runner who rides a road bike one a week or so for may
20-30 mile ride. Today I get up and do a 7 mile run in 1 hour and then
decide to take a nice decent ride in the county on the bike. It was
windy from the east so I set out knowing I get good pickup when I turn
around.

I was about about 11 miles and see two large farms dogs running around
the road by I assume, the place they live. I think they may have been
yellow labs and seem a decent size. Normally dogs don't bother me if I
can past the initial sprint they have I can out run them they usually
drop pretty fast. Well I got close and did a U turn back with the wind
and they were close but I was quickly well over 20 MPH on the GPS and
after maybe 1/2 mile they were toasted. But not so. I turn up another
road to continue and sure enough they came up behind and again I took
off (side wind) now but now we have gone over 1 mile may close to 1.5
miles. Then I start getting worried these dogs did not give up they just
keep at it. I was getting afraid as I was tired and did not want to get
stuck since some of the roads turn to gravel and that would be my end on
skinny roadbike tires 115psi.

Sure enough the T in the road is back into the wind and this was the
only hard road so no choice. Now I am at least 2 miles with these dogs
still right behind and I was almost ready to give up I was not able to
push into the wind that hard. Well I get going and on a slight uphill
the dog gets close and I gave it everything to pull away about maybe 18
mph or so. Now I have it beat but I have to turn again to get back and
it means going right by the house they seem to be from and they are come
up from behind. It was a mile to get back there but of the dogs manages
to really get behind again still coming behind me.... it was unreal I
have never seen a dog with this much wind we easily had done close to 3
miles. I had one more right turn to get back to the road we started and
have the wind at my back but I was afraid the dog might cut the corner
and still catch up. I don't like to corner fast I am not that good on a
bike. Well I get the corner and then turn it up and for at least another
500 yards at over 25mph the dog was still going but at this point I knew
I had him it was all wind at the back.

The moral is I was seriously afraid and had I not run earlier it would
have been easier to out run them but I am going to respect dogs when I
am tired. I have the macho idea I can run those pups into the ground but
I have never seen anything like these dogs. I have many times had dogs
behind me and maybe for 400 yards the move fast but after that they give
up. It took me another 10 minutes to get my self straight and back into
riding I was toasted.

Anyone had a dog that did this, these pups serious went 3 plus miles of
hard running?

Three miles is nothing. Dogs will run all day. There may
be others, but dogs, hyenas and pronghorn antelope are the
only animals I know of that can keep up with or out
distance human runners.

--
Michael Press

On Tue, 26 May 2009 14:57:39 -0700, Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
mark cleary wrote:


The moral is I was seriously afraid and had I not run earlier it would
have been easier to out run them but I am going to respect dogs when I
am tired. I have the macho idea I can run those pups into the ground but
I have never seen anything like these dogs. I have many times had dogs
behind me and maybe for 400 yards the move fast but after that they give
up. It took me another 10 minutes to get my self straight and back into
riding I was toasted.

Anyone had a dog that did this, these pups serious went 3 plus miles of
hard running?

Three miles is nothing. Dogs will run all day. There may
be others, but dogs, hyenas and pronghorn antelope are the
only animals I know of that can keep up with or out
distance human runners.

It's why we had to make a deal with the dogs.

Open question how shared long distance hunting strategies affected the evolution
of both species.