Plod trucks

On 3/24/2015 3:55 AM, d wrote:
The trucks that some plods are using to catch errant truckers - I'm guessing
these vehicles have had their limiters disconnected or at least had their
max speed raised so plod can pass a lot of trucks to check them?

No, that would be illegal under EU law.

On 3/24/2015 7:36 AM, John Williamson wrote:
On 24/03/2015 14:30, wrote:
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:08:19 +0000 (UTC),
d wrote:

On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 06:46:56 -0700
NEMO wrote:
On 3/24/2015 3:55 AM, d wrote:
The trucks that some plods are using to catch errant truckers - I'm
guessing
these vehicles have had their limiters disconnected or at least had
their
max speed raised so plod can pass a lot of trucks to check them?

No, that would be illegal under EU law.


Do they use a complete rig or just a cab unit,
If the latter and towing capabilities have been removed could they
actually have been reclassified into another vehicle category that may
be less restrictive?

G.Harman

Under "Exemptions" are "Vehicles owned or hired without a driver by the
Armed Forces, civil defence services, fire services and forces
responsible for maintaining public order, when the carriage is
undertaken as a consequence of the tasks assigned to these services and
is under their control.

So, Plod using an artic, a tractor unit or rigid lorry as a patrol car
are exempt from the requirement to fit a limiter.

Only under English law...NOT under EU law.

"NEMO" wrote in message
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On 3/24/2015 3:55 AM, d wrote:
The trucks that some plods are using to catch errant truckers - I'm
guessing
these vehicles have had their limiters disconnected or at least had their
max speed raised so plod can pass a lot of trucks to check them?

No, that would be illegal under EU law.


EU law is faggots making rules for other faggots.

On 24/03/2015 17:34, NEMO wrote:
On 3/24/2015 7:36 AM, John Williamson wrote:
....
Under "Exemptions" are "Vehicles owned or hired without a driver by the
Armed Forces, civil defence services, fire services and forces
responsible for maintaining public order, when the carriage is
undertaken as a consequence of the tasks assigned to these services and
is under their control.

So, Plod using an artic, a tractor unit or rigid lorry as a patrol car
are exempt from the requirement to fit a limiter.

Only under English law...NOT under EU law.



Article 6 of Council Directive 92/6 /EEC excludes 'motor
vehicles used by armed forces, civil defence , fire and other
emergency services and forces responsible for maintaining
public order.' from the requirement to have speed limiters fitted. Hence
all EU member states will have that included in the legislation they
introduced to implement the Directive.


--
Colin Bignell

On 3/25/2015 7:32 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 24/03/2015 17:34, NEMO wrote:
On 3/24/2015 7:36 AM, John Williamson wrote:
...
Under "Exemptions" are "Vehicles owned or hired without a driver by the
Armed Forces, civil defence services, fire services and forces
responsible for maintaining public order, when the carriage is
undertaken as a consequence of the tasks assigned to these services and
is under their control.

So, Plod using an artic, a tractor unit or rigid lorry as a patrol car
are exempt from the requirement to fit a limiter.

Only under English law...NOT under EU law.



Article 6 of Council Directive 92/6 /EEC excludes 'motor
vehicles used by armed forces, civil defence , fire and other
emergency services and forces responsible for maintaining
public order.' from the requirement to have speed limiters fitted. Hence
all EU member states will have that included in the legislation they
introduced to implement the Directive.

No, it doesn't. That directive has since been rescinded.

On 3/25/2015 4:31 AM, Colon Edmud Burchese wrote:
"NEMO" wrote in message
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On 3/24/2015 3:55 AM, d wrote:
The trucks that some plods are using to catch errant truckers - I'm
guessing
these vehicles have had their limiters disconnected or at least had
their
max speed raised so plod can pass a lot of trucks to check them?

No, that would be illegal under EU law.


EU law is faggots making rules for other faggots.

Sounds much like California, Massachusetts and New York law, eh, Coloon?
LOLK

On 26/03/2015 22:28, NEMO wrote:
On 3/25/2015 7:32 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 24/03/2015 17:34, NEMO wrote:
On 3/24/2015 7:36 AM, John Williamson wrote:
...
Under "Exemptions" are "Vehicles owned or hired without a driver by the
Armed Forces, civil defence services, fire services and forces
responsible for maintaining public order, when the carriage is
undertaken as a consequence of the tasks assigned to these services and
is under their control.

So, Plod using an artic, a tractor unit or rigid lorry as a patrol car
are exempt from the requirement to fit a limiter.

Only under English law...NOT under EU law.



Article 6 of Council Directive 92/6 /EEC excludes 'motor
vehicles used by armed forces, civil defence , fire and other
emergency services and forces responsible for maintaining
public order.' from the requirement to have speed limiters fitted. Hence
all EU member states will have that included in the legislation they
introduced to implement the Directive.

No, it doesn't. That directive has since been rescinded.


That may come as something of a surprise to the EU, who list its end of
validity as 31st December 9999, which is still quite a long way off.
However, even if it has been replaced with something else, the principle
still holds that no member state can unilaterally introduce exemptions
from the provisions of a Directive. If UK law permits certain vehicles
not to be fitted with limiters it is because that is what the EU
Directive permits, so it is something that will be in the enabling
legislation of all member states.

--
Colin Bignell

On 3/27/2015 3:02 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 26/03/2015 22:28, NEMO wrote:
On 3/25/2015 7:32 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 24/03/2015 17:34, NEMO wrote:
On 3/24/2015 7:36 AM, John Williamson wrote:
...
Under "Exemptions" are "Vehicles owned or hired without a driver by
the
Armed Forces, civil defence services, fire services and forces
responsible for maintaining public order, when the carriage is
undertaken as a consequence of the tasks assigned to these services
and
is under their control.

So, Plod using an artic, a tractor unit or rigid lorry as a patrol car
are exempt from the requirement to fit a limiter.

Only under English law...NOT under EU law.



Article 6 of Council Directive 92/6 /EEC excludes 'motor
vehicles used by armed forces, civil defence , fire and other
emergency services and forces responsible for maintaining
public order.' from the requirement to have speed limiters fitted. Hence
all EU member states will have that included in the legislation they
introduced to implement the Directive.

No, it doesn't. That directive has since been rescinded.


That may come as something of a surprise to the EU, who list its end of
validity as 31st December 9999, which is still quite a long way off.
However, even if it has been replaced with something else, the principle
still holds that no member state can unilaterally introduce exemptions
from the provisions of a Directive. If UK law permits certain vehicles
not to be fitted with limiters it is because that is what the EU
Directive permits, so it is something that will be in the enabling
legislation of all member states.

Not so. There are several instance where English law is at odds with
Eurodirectives.

On 27/03/2015 13:43, NEMO wrote:
On 3/27/2015 3:02 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 26/03/2015 22:28, NEMO wrote:
On 3/25/2015 7:32 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 24/03/2015 17:34, NEMO wrote:
On 3/24/2015 7:36 AM, John Williamson wrote:
...
Under "Exemptions" are "Vehicles owned or hired without a driver by
the
Armed Forces, civil defence services, fire services and forces
responsible for maintaining public order, when the carriage is
undertaken as a consequence of the tasks assigned to these services
and
is under their control.

So, Plod using an artic, a tractor unit or rigid lorry as a patrol
car
are exempt from the requirement to fit a limiter.

Only under English law...NOT under EU law.



Article 6 of Council Directive 92/6 /EEC excludes 'motor
vehicles used by armed forces, civil defence , fire and other
emergency services and forces responsible for maintaining
public order.' from the requirement to have speed limiters fitted.
Hence
all EU member states will have that included in the legislation they
introduced to implement the Directive.

No, it doesn't. That directive has since been rescinded.


That may come as something of a surprise to the EU, who list its end of
validity as 31st December 9999, which is still quite a long way off.
However, even if it has been replaced with something else, the principle
still holds that no member state can unilaterally introduce exemptions
from the provisions of a Directive. If UK law permits certain vehicles
not to be fitted with limiters it is because that is what the EU
Directive permits, so it is something that will be in the enabling
legislation of all member states.

Not so. There are several instance where English law is at odds with
Eurodirectives.


Only where we have retained rights, which doesn't apply in this case.

--
Colin Bignell

On 3/27/2015 8:25 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 27/03/2015 13:43, NEMO wrote:
On 3/27/2015 3:02 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 26/03/2015 22:28, NEMO wrote:
On 3/25/2015 7:32 AM, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 24/03/2015 17:34, NEMO wrote:
On 3/24/2015 7:36 AM, John Williamson wrote:
...
Under "Exemptions" are "Vehicles owned or hired without a driver by
the
Armed Forces, civil defence services, fire services and forces
responsible for maintaining public order, when the carriage is
undertaken as a consequence of the tasks assigned to these services
and
is under their control.

So, Plod using an artic, a tractor unit or rigid lorry as a patrol
car
are exempt from the requirement to fit a limiter.

Only under English law...NOT under EU law.



Article 6 of Council Directive 92/6 /EEC excludes 'motor
vehicles used by armed forces, civil defence , fire and other
emergency services and forces responsible for maintaining
public order.' from the requirement to have speed limiters fitted.
Hence
all EU member states will have that included in the legislation they
introduced to implement the Directive.

No, it doesn't. That directive has since been rescinded.


That may come as something of a surprise to the EU, who list its end of
validity as 31st December 9999, which is still quite a long way off.
However, even if it has been replaced with something else, the principle
still holds that no member state can unilaterally introduce exemptions
from the provisions of a Directive. If UK law permits certain vehicles
not to be fitted with limiters it is because that is what the EU
Directive permits, so it is something that will be in the enabling
legislation of all member states.

Not so. There are several instance where English law is at odds with
Eurodirectives.


Only where we have retained rights, which doesn't apply in this case.

Actually, it applies more in this case than almost anywhere else.