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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I
thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers are dealing with it. A few weeks ago, yet another rider who had just upgraded to disk brakes found that he couldn't reliably keep his wheel stationary in the dropouts under heavy braking. So far, so normal. Having found my web page, he then did what it seems no mountain biker before him has bothered to do, and asked the manufacturers for advice. In all, he spoke to Answer (Manitou), Fox Racing, and also Avid and Chris King. The clever ones will already have worked out where the subject line came from. Yes, to a man (actually, 3 men and one woman), they all insisted that he was the first person to have ever brought this up with them, and no, they had no plans to do anything about it, because no-one else ever had this problem. One of them (Avid) did say that it was obviously dangerous and he should not ride the bike in that state, but had no useful suggestion as to what he could do to make it safe. So there you have it. At this rate, by the time next year's complaint comes in, they will presumably have forgotten this first one. How convenient for them. Those who thought that it wouldn't do to kick up a fuss because the poor manufacturers were doing their best, may wish to re-examine their approach. Or else studiously ignore this post in the vain hope that the problem will go away. James |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
"James Annan" wrote in message ... It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers are dealing with it. A few weeks ago, yet another rider who had just upgraded to disk brakes found that he couldn't reliably keep his wheel stationary in the dropouts under heavy braking. So far, so normal. Having found my web page, he then did what it seems no mountain biker before him has bothered to do, and asked the manufacturers for advice. In all, he spoke to Answer (Manitou), Fox Racing, and also Avid and Chris King. The clever ones will already have worked out where the subject line came from. Yes, to a man (actually, 3 men and one woman), they all insisted that he was the first person to have ever brought this up with them, and no, they had no plans to do anything about it, because no-one else ever had this problem. One of them (Avid) did say that it was obviously dangerous and he should not ride the bike in that state, but had no useful suggestion as to what he could do to make it safe. So there you have it. At this rate, by the time next year's complaint comes in, they will presumably have forgotten this first one. How convenient for them. Those who thought that it wouldn't do to kick up a fuss because the poor manufacturers were doing their best, may wish to re-examine their approach. Or else studiously ignore this post in the vain hope that the problem will go away. James ....or come back to rim brakes ;-) |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
"(t'other) Dave" wrote in message ... "James Annan" wrote in message ... It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers are dealing with it. A few weeks ago, yet another rider who had just upgraded to disk brakes found that he couldn't reliably keep his wheel stationary in the dropouts under heavy braking. So far, so normal. Having found my web page, he then did what it seems no mountain biker before him has bothered to do, and asked the manufacturers for advice. In all, he spoke to Answer (Manitou), Fox Racing, and also Avid and Chris King. The clever ones will already have worked out where the subject line came from. Yes, to a man (actually, 3 men and one woman), they all insisted that he was the first person to have ever brought this up with them, and no, they had no plans to do anything about it, because no-one else ever had this problem. One of them (Avid) did say that it was obviously dangerous and he should not ride the bike in that state, but had no useful suggestion as to what he could do to make it safe. So there you have it. At this rate, by the time next year's complaint comes in, they will presumably have forgotten this first one. How convenient for them. Those who thought that it wouldn't do to kick up a fuss because the poor manufacturers were doing their best, may wish to re-examine their approach. Or else studiously ignore this post in the vain hope that the problem will go away. James ...or come back to rim brakes ;-) Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup! Shaun aRe |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
Shaun Rimmer wrote:
...or come back to rim brakes ;-) Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup! Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here. |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message e.rogers.com... Shaun Rimmer wrote: ...or come back to rim brakes ;-) Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup! Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here. It's a small net.....and a mad, mad, mad world... ;-) |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
"(t'other) Dave" wrote in message ... "Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message e.rogers.com... Shaun Rimmer wrote: ...or come back to rim brakes ;-) Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup! Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here. It's a small net.....and a mad, mad, mad world... ;-) Understated truths eh?!? ',;~}~ Shaun aRe |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
"Jacobe Hazzard" wrote in message e.rogers.com... Shaun Rimmer wrote: ...or come back to rim brakes ;-) Infidel! Heretic! Hiccup! Hey, it's dave and shaun. Fancy meeting you guys here. ****! Rumbled again ',;~}~ Hiya Jacobe! Shaun aRe |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
Cross posts I don't participate in removed.
"James Annan" wrote in message ... It's now a year since the QR/disk brake problem hit the headlines, and I thought some of you might be interested in hearing how the manufacturers are dealing with it. A few weeks ago, yet another rider who had just upgraded to disk brakes found that he couldn't reliably keep his wheel stationary in the dropouts under heavy braking. So far, so normal. Having found my web page, he then did what it seems no mountain biker before him has bothered to do, and asked the manufacturers for advice. In all, he spoke to Answer (Manitou), Fox Racing, and also Avid and Chris King. The clever ones will already have worked out where the subject line came from. Yes, to a man (actually, 3 men and one woman), they all insisted that he was the first person to have ever brought this up with them, and no, they had no plans to do anything about it, because no-one else ever had this problem. One of them (Avid) did say that it was obviously dangerous and he should not ride the bike in that state, but had no useful suggestion as to what he could do to make it safe. So there you have it. At this rate, by the time next year's complaint comes in, they will presumably have forgotten this first one. How convenient for them. Those who thought that it wouldn't do to kick up a fuss because the poor manufacturers were doing their best, may wish to re-examine their approach. Or else studiously ignore this post in the vain hope that the problem will go away. James Wow! How many people are having this problem? Out of how many disk users? Sorry, but every single time I've seen pictures of these 'incidents' it looks like improperly set skewers to me. --- International Bicycle 5326 E Independence Blvd Charlotte, NC 28212 http://intbike.com 704 535-5501 Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.610 / Virus Database: 390 - Release Date: 3/3/04 |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
Wow! How many people are having this problem? Out of how many disk
users? Sorry, but every single time I've seen pictures of these 'incidents' it looks like improperly set skewers to me. misuse is the most common cause of product malfunction. ~Travis |
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"Actually you are the first person to bring up this issue"
Merlin wrote:
Wow! How many people are having this problem? Out of how many disk users? Sorry, but every single time I've seen pictures of these 'incidents' it looks like improperly set skewers to me. misuse is the most common cause of product malfunction. Yeah, especially guns, cars, and alcohol. "Hold my beer, grab the wheel, hand me my gun, and watch this!" :-) Shawn |
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