|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
Are SUVs' tinted windows a sign of shame? Or are they a sign of
misanthropism? I know their wanton disregard for the environment and their isolation from others causes a lot of problems. I can never read what they are up to, for one. And I feel terrorized in my bike or scooter. I just know I better get out of their way, just as from drunk drivers. It's very fitting what this quote applies to frequent flyers... "Such wanton disregard for the environment must become as socially unacceptable as drunk driving." http://www.sundayherald.com/news/her...152757.0.0.php WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote WHY THE BANANA REVOLUTION? http://webspawner.com/users/bananarevolution |
Ads |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ... Are SUVs' tinted windows a sign of shame? Or are they a sign of misanthropism? I know their wanton disregard for the environment and their isolation from others causes a lot of problems. I can never read what they are up to, for one. And I feel terrorized in my bike or scooter. I just know I better get out of their way, just as from drunk drivers. I have never had tinted windows, but I think they want them for privacy. Maybe the built in TV sets and GPS screens need to block the light for the best picture. I know the sunlight often makes it hard for me to read a GPS screen. There are regulations at least in California limiting the darkness of the side front windows so that the police can look in. The last I saw, the average MPG did not change over the last couple of decades with the introduction of SUV's. Hybrid SUVs are now coming onto the market with decent gas mileage. It's very fitting what this quote applies to frequent flyers... Frequent flyers are usually doing it for business reasons. Almost all of them would prefer to cut their amount of flying, but can't without losing business. Travel in general is a function of the strength of the economy. So to have lots of jobs, travel is needed. Trying to same energy with bike or what ever is a dead end non-solution anyway. The oil will still run out even if you use less of it. The only real solution is the development of new alternative energy sources. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
Jack May wrote:
The last I saw, the average MPG did not change over the last couple of decades with the introduction of SUV's. You weren't paying attention, then. The corporate MPG requirements specifically excluded "light trucks", which is why SUV's exist. They are classified as trucks, thus don't count in the CAFE statistics. Hybrid SUVs are now coming onto the market with decent gas mileage. So, with fancy technology a bigger-than-sane car can get half the mileage as my old '94 Honda Civic CX (40 mpg -- really). Such advancement. -- David L. Johnson I believe that the motion picture is destined to revolutionize our educational system and that in a few years it will supplant largely, if not entirely, the use of textbooks -- Thomas Edison, 1922 |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
On Dec 10, 7:42 pm, "Jack May" wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ... Are SUVs' tinted windows a sign of shame? Or are they a sign of misanthropism? I know their wanton disregard for the environment and their isolation from others causes a lot of problems. I can never read what they are up to, for one. And I feel terrorized in my bike or scooter. I just know I better get out of their way, just as from drunk drivers. I have never had tinted windows, but I think they want them for privacy. Maybe the built in TV sets and GPS screens need to block the light for the best picture. I know the sunlight often makes it hard for me to read a GPS screen. There are regulations at least in California limiting the darkness of the side front windows so that the police can look in. The last I saw, the average MPG did not change over the last couple of decades with the introduction of SUV's. Hybrid SUVs are now coming onto the market with decent gas mileage. It's very fitting what this quote applies to frequent flyers... Frequent flyers are usually doing it for business reasons. Almost all of them would prefer to cut their amount of flying, but can't without losing business. Travel in general is a function of the strength of the economy. So to have lots of jobs, travel is needed. Trying to same energy with bike or what ever is a dead end non-solution anyway. The oil will still run out even if you use less of it. The only real solution is the development of new alternative energy sources. Oil will NEVER run out. That is a common fallicy. Eventually it will get scare and with scarcity comes a higher price. As prices get higher, substitutes become economical. Then the substitutes take over the demand. As gas prices rise, bio-diesel, ethenol, etc. become more viable. At some point they will take over and replace oil. It's just a matter of time. Meanwhile, the last of the prohibitively expensive oil will sit in the ground. |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
"David L. Johnson" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: The last I saw, the average MPG did not change over the last couple of decades with the introduction of SUV's. You weren't paying attention, then. The corporate MPG requirements specifically excluded "light trucks", which is why SUV's exist. They are classified as trucks, thus don't count in the CAFE statistics. Hybrid SUVs are now coming onto the market with decent gas mileage. So, with fancy technology a bigger-than-sane car can get half the mileage as my old '94 Honda Civic CX (40 mpg -- really). Such advancement. It looks like the EPA adjusted MPG report includes SUVs (light trucks) and the average fuel economy has been steady at about 20 MPG. I don't think it is just reporting CAFE data http://www.epa.gov/otaq/cert/mpg/fetrends/420r07008.pdf See pages i and ii with a graph of cars, trucks, and both on page iii |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
It looks like the EPA adjusted MPG report includes SUVs
(light trucks) and the average fuel economy has been steady at about 20 MPG. =v= Of course we've just gone though a decade and a half of inaccurately-higher and misleadingly-improving ratings along with marketing campaigns praising these SUVs to the skies. _Jym_ |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
"Pat" wrote in message ... On Dec 10, 7:42 pm, "Jack May" wrote: "donquijote1954" wrote in message ... Oil will NEVER run out. That is a common fallicy. Eventually it will get scare and with scarcity comes a higher price. As prices get higher, substitutes become economical. Then the substitutes take over the demand. As gas prices rise, bio-diesel, ethenol, etc. become more viable. At some point they will take over and replace oil. It's just a matter of time. Meanwhile, the last of the prohibitively expensive oil will sit in the ground. Certainly true. There are reports though that we are late already and the alternative energy sources will not be ramped up in time. Of course shortages will cause a lot of alternative fuel production to ramp up quickly. Maybe we will make the transition by the thinnest of margins without shutting down the US economy. It will be a cliff hanger. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
Jack May wrote:
"David L. Johnson" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: The last I saw, the average MPG did not change over the last couple of decades with the introduction of SUV's. You weren't paying attention, then. The corporate MPG requirements specifically excluded "light trucks", which is why SUV's exist. They are classified as trucks, thus don't count in the CAFE statistics. Hybrid SUVs are now coming onto the market with decent gas mileage. So, with fancy technology a bigger-than-sane car can get half the mileage as my old '94 Honda Civic CX (40 mpg -- really). Such advancement. It looks like the EPA adjusted MPG report includes SUVs (light trucks) and the average fuel economy has been steady at about 20 MPG. I don't think it is just reporting CAFE data What the EPA report includes is one thing, the requirement was for the CAFE to rise to something like 27mpg by the early years of this century (or late in the previous one). The US car makers managed this by classifying many cars as "light trucks", exempting them from the requirements. And it's not just Hummers that were suddenly declared trucks in order to help the CAFE numbers, but also the PT cruiser, Subaru Outback, and a slew of other cars. That's why you see a rise of % of light-duty vehicles being called "trucks", from 19% to 49%. It ain't that we're all moving back to the farm. And to suggest that the public just wanted these trucks rather than cars is also specious. Marketing created the desire for suburbanites to suddenly want to drive a truck to work. I love the screaming headlines in the report, though: "Highlight #1: Fuel Economy Increases in 2005 and 2006 Reverse the Long-Term Trend of Declining Fuel Economy From 1987 Through 2004." According to their own data, the average fuel economy from 1997 to 2007 increased from 20.1 to 20.2 mpg. Impressive. To get back to the original point, indeed the average fuel economy, among cars and trucks, has decreased since 1987. This is despite the much-hyped hybrids, which caused only a minor bump, not close to bringing us back to the conservation "peak" of the late 80s. The data of the mid-70s is also skewed by the way in which Detroit dealt with pollution requirements at that time. Engines were de-tuned to not produce too much of the emissions that were being tested for. Looking a the graph from this report you see a huge jump in fuel economy when catalytic converters finally took over. -- David L. Johnson "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines." --Ralph Waldo Emerson |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
"Jack May" wrote in message . .. "donquijote1954" wrote in message ... Are SUVs' tinted windows a sign of shame? Or are they a sign of misanthropism? I know their wanton disregard for the environment and their isolation from others causes a lot of problems. I can never read what they are up to, for one. And I feel terrorized in my bike or scooter. I just know I better get out of their way, just as from drunk drivers. I have never had tinted windows, but I think they want them for privacy. Maybe the built in TV sets and GPS screens need to block the light for the best picture. I know the sunlight often makes it hard for me to read a GPS screen. There are regulations at least in California limiting the darkness of the side front windows so that the police can look in. The last I saw, the average MPG did not change over the last couple of decades with the introduction of SUV's. Hybrid SUVs are now coming onto the market with decent gas mileage. It's very fitting what this quote applies to frequent flyers... Frequent flyers are usually doing it for business reasons. Almost all of them would prefer to cut their amount of flying, but can't without losing business. Travel in general is a function of the strength of the economy. So to have lots of jobs, travel is needed. Trying to same energy with bike or what ever is a dead end non-solution anyway. The oil will still run out even if you use less of it. The only real solution is the development of new alternative energy sources. NC has laws on tinted windows and they must pass inspection, be they on cars or trucks. |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Should SUV Driving amount to Drunk Driving?
On Dec 10, 7:42 pm, "Jack May" wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message ... Are SUVs' tinted windows a sign of shame? Or are they a sign of misanthropism? I know their wanton disregard for the environment and their isolation from others causes a lot of problems. I can never read what they are up to, for one. And I feel terrorized in my bike or scooter. I just know I better get out of their way, just as from drunk drivers. I have never had tinted windows, but I think they want them for privacy. Maybe the built in TV sets and GPS screens need to block the light for the best picture. I know the sunlight often makes it hard for me to read a GPS screen. Maybe they are watching movies while they drive. Who knows what's going on in there besides the cell phones being permanently attached to their ears. There are regulations at least in California limiting the darkness of the side front windows so that the police can look in. The last I saw, the average MPG did not change over the last couple of decades with the introduction of SUV's. Hybrid SUVs are now coming onto the market with decent gas mileage. Decent gas mileage but still deadly to other people. It's very fitting what this quote applies to frequent flyers... Frequent flyers are usually doing it for business reasons. Almost all of them would prefer to cut their amount of flying, but can't without losing business. I'm not picking on them, but I think the article talks about those who do it casually or unnecessarily. - Travel in general is a function of the strength of the economy. So to have lots of jobs, travel is needed. I'm sure some of that travel to China could be avoided if we kept our jobs here. Merchant ships I'm sure are a problem. BUT THIS IS "THE ISSUE"... Trying to same energy with bike or what ever is a dead end non-solution anyway. The oil will still run out even if you use less of it. The only real solution is the development of new alternative energy sources. You are just repeating what the "Supreme Leader" says: The solution is into high tech, which is coming soon... Well, sorry to tell him we have the technology now and it's not high tech. Scooters get 80MPG, and don't add to traffic congestion. Bicycles though are the ultimate weapon against Climate Change and safer roads... 1- They are cheap, so they are DEMOCRATIC. 2- They are healthy, so we keep the Medical Industry on a diet. 3- They are here now, not sometime in the future. |
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Careless driving conviction instead of dangerous driving charge | Toby Sleigh | UK | 8 | March 17th 07 09:12 AM |
MADD too pc to divulge/confront illegal alien drunk driving epidemic | fred | General | 2 | November 3rd 06 07:22 AM |
Courier Mail: Drunk cyclist is banned from driving | Donga | Australia | 17 | March 7th 06 03:41 AM |
Drunk Driving Penalties | BIKE AU | Racing | 0 | May 12th 05 04:41 AM |
True drunk driving story. | Simon Mason | UK | 48 | May 25th 04 12:48 AM |