Why do pedestrians

On 04-Jul-16 6:15 PM, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, July 4, 2016 at 5:53:16 PM UTC+1, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

I give drivers a quick thank you for stopping, I have yet to be ignored when
stood at a zebra crossing.

Thank you for proving my point.

What point is that, that motorists stop at crossings?


It's called common courtesy, something you as a dedicated scum cyclist will
never understand.

How childish.



So being polite is childish, what a quaint idea.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 20:30:15 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:44:09 +0100, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 18:31:20 UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is you are stood at a zebra crossing waiting for permission from a motorist to cross.
You have priority and should not be in fear for your life for exercising that priority.

Indeed - if I am at a zebra and a car is approaching, but has plenty of time to stop if I walk out, then I will simply walk across there and then.

This saves time in the same way as when I drive on when three cars turn up at a mini roundabout - I make the other parties' mind up for them which then negates any "after you" dithering.

If you did that in front of me you'd get hooted at. You should at least wait to see if the car is slowing. One day you're going to get run over.

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp yet.
Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

Alycidon wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 20:30:15 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:44:09 +0100, Alycidon wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 18:31:20 UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is you are stood at a zebra crossing waiting for permission from a motorist to cross.
You have priority and should not be in fear for your life for exercising that priority.

Indeed - if I am at a zebra and a car is approaching, but has plenty of time to stop if I walk out, then I will simply walk across there and then.

This saves time in the same way as when I drive on when three cars turn up at a mini roundabout - I make the other parties' mind up for them which then negates any "after you" dithering.

If you did that in front of me you'd get hooted at. You should at least wait to see if the car is slowing. One day you're going to get run over.

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp yet.
Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

Any driver who sounds his horn because a pedestrian crosses at a zebra
crossing, should wake up after an eighteen-year coma.

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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 21:12:32 +0100, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 20:30:15 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:44:09 +0100, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 18:31:20 UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is you are stood at a zebra crossing waiting for permission from a motorist to cross.
You have priority and should not be in fear for your life for exercising that priority.

Indeed - if I am at a zebra and a car is approaching, but has plenty of time to stop if I walk out, then I will simply walk across there and then.

This saves time in the same way as when I drive on when three cars turn up at a mini roundabout - I make the other parties' mind up for them which then negates any "after you" dithering.

If you did that in front of me you'd get hooted at. You should at least wait to see if the car is slowing. One day you're going to get run over.

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp yet.
Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

There's a very simple way to cross a zebra. You turn to face across the road so drivers know you want to cross. You watch the car approaching you [1], and when you see it slowing down for you, you cross. I've got to part [1] before, and the car made no attempt to stop. Doing what you do could cause an accident.

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On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 21:26:37 +0100, Bruce 'Not Glug' Lee wrote:

Alycidon wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 20:30:15 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:44:09 +0100, Alycidon wrote:
On Monday, 4 July 2016 18:31:20 UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is you are stood at a zebra crossing waiting for permission from a motorist to cross.
You have priority and should not be in fear for your life for exercising that priority.

Indeed - if I am at a zebra and a car is approaching, but has plenty of time to stop if I walk out, then I will simply walk across there and then.

This saves time in the same way as when I drive on when three cars turn up at a mini roundabout - I make the other parties' mind up for them which then negates any "after you" dithering.

If you did that in front of me you'd get hooted at. You should at least wait to see if the car is slowing. One day you're going to get run over.

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp yet.
Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

Any driver who sounds his horn because a pedestrian crosses at a zebra
crossing, should wake up after an eighteen-year coma.

More likely the stupid pedestrian gets a coma for walking in front of a tonne of fast moving steel. You're only in the right until you get splatted, then you aren't anything.

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On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:28:56 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp yet.
Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

There's a very simple way to cross a zebra. You turn to face across the road so drivers know you want to cross. You watch the car approaching you [1], and when you see it slowing down for you, you cross. I've got to part [1] before, and the car made no attempt to stop. Doing what you do could cause an accident.

It can't be an "accident" if the driver had twice the stopping distance when I start to walk across the zebra in order to come to a halt in good time.

If he wants to play chicken he will end up in court when the film is played back in court.

On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 21:56:20 +0100, Alycidon wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 21:28:56 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp yet.
Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

There's a very simple way to cross a zebra. You turn to face across the road so drivers know you want to cross. You watch the car approaching you [1], and when you see it slowing down for you, you cross. I've got to part [1] before, and the car made no attempt to stop. Doing what you do could cause an accident.

It can't be an "accident" if the driver had twice the stopping distance when I start to walk across the zebra in order to come to a halt in good time.

You're assuming he saw the fool walking across the road without waiting for it to be safe.

If he wants to play chicken

That's precisely what you were doing.

he will end up in court when the film

What film? If you carry a video camera around as a pedestrian, you're an even bigger sad loser than I previously thought.

is played back in court.

And you'll be dead or in hospital. You lose.

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On 04/07/2016 21:28, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 21:12:32 +0100, Alycidon
wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 20:30:15 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:44:09 +0100, Alycidon
wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 18:31:20 UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is you are stood at a zebra crossing waiting for
permission from a motorist to cross.
You have priority and should not be in fear for your life
for
exercising that priority.

Indeed - if I am at a zebra and a car is approaching, but has
plenty of time to stop if I walk out, then I will simply walk
across there and then.

This saves time in the same way as when I drive on when three
cars
turn up at a mini roundabout - I make the other parties' mind up
for them which then negates any "after you" dithering.

If you did that in front of me you'd get hooted at. You should
at least wait to see if the car is slowing. One day you're going
to get run over.

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp
yet. Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

There's a very simple way to cross a zebra. You turn to face across
the road so drivers know you want to cross. You watch the car
approaching you [1], and when you see it slowing down for you, you
cross.

It is possible to plan for eventualities and adapt to situations as they
arise. It only takes two seconds to cross the footprint of a car, after
all. But people mind less if you get on with it and don't stand there
dithering.

I've got to part [1] before, and the car made no attempt to stop.
Doing what you do could cause an accident.

Depends on whether they were within the zig zags as you started to cross.

On Tue, 05 Jul 2016 00:58:34 +0100, TMS320 wrote:

On 04/07/2016 21:28, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 21:12:32 +0100, Alycidon
wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 20:30:15 UTC+1, James Wilkinson wrote:
On Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:44:09 +0100, Alycidon
wrote:

On Monday, 4 July 2016 18:31:20 UTC+1, Simon Jester wrote:

The point is you are stood at a zebra crossing waiting for
permission from a motorist to cross.
You have priority and should not be in fear for your life
for
exercising that priority.

Indeed - if I am at a zebra and a car is approaching, but has
plenty of time to stop if I walk out, then I will simply walk
across there and then.

This saves time in the same way as when I drive on when three
cars
turn up at a mini roundabout - I make the other parties' mind up
for them which then negates any "after you" dithering.

If you did that in front of me you'd get hooted at. You should
at least wait to see if the car is slowing. One day you're going
to get run over.

Been doing it for 40 years now - not so much as a feeble parp parp
yet. Better for a driver than in out in out shake it all about.

There's a very simple way to cross a zebra. You turn to face across
the road so drivers know you want to cross. You watch the car
approaching you [1], and when you see it slowing down for you, you
cross.

It is possible to plan for eventualities and adapt to situations as they
arise. It only takes two seconds to cross the footprint of a car, after
all. But people mind less if you get on with it and don't stand there
dithering.

Crossing in front of a car which wasn't going to stop either means you have to run for your life, or the car has to stop more rapidly than it should be doing and possibly lose control.

I've got to part [1] before, and the car made no attempt to stop.
Doing what you do could cause an accident.

Depends on whether they were within the zig zags as you started to cross.

Like either of us would check something like that, instead of concentrating on the more important thing of avoiding being in the same place as someone else at the same time.

And I've never heard of zigzags meaning anything of the sort. You're supposed to "stop if safe to do so" - that's not an emergency stop. The only thing the zigzags mean is no parking, because apparently pedestrians are too dumb to be able to look round a parked car.

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On 04/07/2016 20:28, James Wilkinson wrote:

JNugent wrote:
On 04/07/2016 17:46, soup wrote:
On 04/07/2016 17:37, Simon Jester wrote:

Why do pedestrians thank drivers with a wave for stopping at zebra
crossings?

Probably for the same reasons as drivers thank each other with waves
when one stops as the other has right of way.
I frequently wave at cars that give me plenty room overtaking me,
cars that wait at side roads etc etc.
You may say they are just not 'breaking the law' but to me
politeness costs nothing and any situation where drivers do that extra
little bit of actually acknowledging you exist and treat you as other
traffic deserves my thanks/acknowledgment

It really IS amazing that some people are so consumed with bitterness
and spite that they simply cannot comprehend unforced politeness,
isn't it?

Actually, I can't remember ever seeing a cyclist wave.

I have seen it happen.