Horrifying new TAC ad

Watching the ABC news

Just saw the horrifying new ad for the TAC, shows a young cyclist bein
hit head on at high speed. This ad is extremely emotionally confronting
Not entirely convinced by this style of campaign

New TAC campaign warns that speed is no acciden
http://tinyurl.com/3y3q2

TAC Minister Rob Hulls today launched a graphic new road safety campaig
reinforcing the message that drivers who speed are responsible for th
injuries they cause to others

Mr Hulls said the campaign, specifically targeting low-level speeding
served as a timely reminder as the State's road toll continued to climb


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cfsmtb wrote:
Watching the ABC news.
Just saw the horrifying new ad for the TAC, shows a young cyclist being
hit head on at high speed. This ad is extremely emotionally confronting.
Not entirely convinced by this style of campaign.


It was a horrible ad, wasn't it? It had the whole family cringing an
wincing over their noodles. But wasn't the cyclist the on
responsible for the crash? The way I saw the ad was that the cyclis
was riding across a road, not at a crossing, and the car hit her fro
the side. Now surely in legal terms the driver is not responsible
Whether the car was going too fast or not, wouldn't it always hav
been the fault of the person who stepped in front, rode in front, ra
in front, drove in front

Please don't think for a moment I'm suggesting that anyone who gets hi
by a car when it's their fault deserves to die, or anything like that
I'm just a little confused about the scenario used by the TAC..


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On Thu, 20 May 2004 10:38:32 GMT, Etxy
wrote:

cfsmtb wrote:
Watching the ABC news.
Just saw the horrifying new ad for the TAC, shows a young cyclist being
hit head on at high speed. This ad is extremely emotionally confronting.
Not entirely convinced by this style of campaign.



It was a horrible ad, wasn't it? It had the whole family cringing and
wincing over their noodles. But wasn't the cyclist the one
responsible for the crash? The way I saw the ad was that the cyclist
was riding across a road, not at a crossing, and the car hit her from
the side. Now surely in legal terms the driver is not responsible?
Whether the car was going too fast or not, wouldn't it always have
been the fault of the person who stepped in front, rode in front, ran
in front, drove in front?

If you hit something, you're responsible.

If you're driving down the road, under the speed limit, and someone
shoots out of a side road right into your path and you hit them,
you're responsible. They contributed, but you should have been paying
attention. Oh yeah. And keeping under the speed limit does NOT mean
that you are driving safely.

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Regards.
Richard.

Richard Sherratt wrote:

If you hit something, you're responsible.

If you're driving down the road, under the speed limit, and someone
shoots out of a side road right into your path and you hit them,
you're responsible. They contributed, but you should have been paying
attention. Oh yeah. And keeping under the speed limit does NOT mean
that you are driving safely.

Yeah right. If you're going through a light intersection, and someone else
pulls out from the red-lit cross street, and you hit them, you're responsible.

So everyone slows down to the point that anyone breaking the law doesn't
endanger themselves simply because no-one else is going fast enough to kill them.

Instead of stopping people from making stupid manouvers in the first place,
they're penalising everyone else for hitting them.

I was right all along. Victora is breeding bad drivers. And the more they
slow everyone down, the worse it's going to get.
--
Linux Registered User # 302622 http://counter.li.org

So if someone is suicidal and jumps in front of a bus, the driver get
sent to jail


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On Thu, 20 May 2004 21:22:40 +1000, John Tserkezis
wrote:

Richard Sherratt wrote:

If you hit something, you're responsible.

If you're driving down the road, under the speed limit, and someone
shoots out of a side road right into your path and you hit them,
you're responsible. They contributed, but you should have been paying
attention. Oh yeah. And keeping under the speed limit does NOT mean
that you are driving safely.

Yeah right. If you're going through a light intersection, and someone else
pulls out from the red-lit cross street, and you hit them, you're responsible.

Yes. You ARE responsible - not 100%, but you share some of that
responsibility. Having an intersection controlled by traffic lights does
not relieve you of the responsibility to ensure that the intersection is
safe to enter.


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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

On Thu, 20 May 2004 11:57:02 GMT, Etxy
wrote:



So if someone is suicidal and jumps in front of a bus, the driver gets
sent to jail?

Why must everything be so black and white. Just because you share the
responsibility (and not always evenly) does not mean that you get
punished to the full extent of the law.


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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

cfsmtb wrote:
Watching the ABC news.
Just saw the horrifying new ad for the TAC, shows a young cyclist being
hit head on at high speed. This ad is extremely emotionally confronting.
Not entirely convinced by this style of campaign.
New TAC campaign warns that speed is no accident
http://tinyurl.com/3y3q2
TAC Minister Rob Hulls today launched a graphic new road safety campaign
reinforcing the message that drivers who speed are responsible for the
injuries they cause to others.
Mr Hulls said the campaign, specifically targeting low-level speeding,
served as a timely reminder as the State's road toll continued to climb.


Yet another factor to fill our society with fear of ANYTHING an
everything! Can see all those mums+dad's telling Johnny/Jane/Pham not t
ride to school anymore 'because its dangerous'

Just to throw a tidbit re who's fault it is if someone pulls out, if yo
are invoolved in a collision and it is deemed reasonable that you wer
not able/not enough time to react despite identifying the likelihood o
said collision, you are NOT at fault (jumping in front of Bus scenario
pulling out of sidestreet inside 10 metres of oncoming traffic, etc)
That's the word from 'Blue' mate i just got off the phone wit
(incidentally, he's a motorbike cop who pushes traffic light button
along Beach Rd - Hitchy?


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Etxy wrote:

So if someone is suicidal and jumps in front of a bus, the driver gets
sent to jail?

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The bus driver sues the family for the trauma he/she experiences, loss
of sleep at night, etc.

T

Tamyka Bell wrote:
Etxy wrote:

So if someone is suicidal and jumps in front of a bus, the driver gets
sent to jail?

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The bus driver sues the family for the trauma he/she experiences, loss
of sleep at night, etc.
T


Most public transport Co's now have on-staff or consulting psychiatri
road-trauma specialists to help train/bus drivers. Met a bloke i
Adelaide who did this for 20 yrs in England. gawd, what a job! Sa
reflection of the world we live in..


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