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Cyclist sought after coach comes off worst
Maybe a reason to make schoolkids wear helmets on coaches like they did when
on a school walk out at Goathland the other day. QUOTE: AN accident involving a pedal cyclist and a van left a school coach carrying 41 children stuck in a ditch at the side of a road in Farnham. The crash happened in Tilford Road, close to the Duke of Cambridge pub, at around 3.45pm on Monday. The single decker coach was carrying children from Waverley Abbey School. A girl and a boy aged between eight and 11 were put in neck braces and taken to the Royal Surrey County Hospital in Guildford suffering from whiplash-type injuries. A number of other children were treated at the scene for shock, as was the coach driver. PC Joe McGregor, speaking at the scene on Monday afternoon, said: "The road has a shallow turn. We have interviewed the driver of the coach and we are to visit and interview the driver of the van." Surrey Police said on Tuesday that the cyclist - who officers were originally trying to trace - had now come forward and been spoken to. "Officers also spoke to a number of other witnesses following the incident," a spokeswoman added PC McGregor said that parents were able to pick up their children very quickly after the accident. The youngsters got out of the coach through the emergency exit and gathered on the driveway of a nearby house, where the owner helped to look after them by handing out blankets and warm drinks. Headteacher David Jeffs plus two other members of staff from Waverley Abbey School also went to the scene to conduct a head count and manage the situation when parents arrived. Tilford Road was closed in both directions for just under six hours while recovery of the coach took place. http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/21...ch_after_crash -- Simon Mason |
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On May 19, 7:33*pm, "Simon Mason"
wrote: Maybe a reason to make schoolkids wear helmets on coaches like they did when on a school walk out at Goathland the other day. QUOTE: AN accident involving a pedal cyclist and a van left a school coach carrying 41 children stuck in a ditch at the side of a road in Farnham. The crash happened in Tilford Road, close to the Duke of Cambridge pub, at around 3.45pm on Monday. The single decker coach was carrying children from Waverley Abbey School. A girl and a boy aged between eight and 11 were put in neck braces and taken to the Royal Surrey County Hospital in Guildford suffering from whiplash-type injuries. A number of other children were treated at the scene for shock, as was the coach driver. PC Joe McGregor, speaking at the scene on Monday afternoon, said: "The road has a shallow turn. We have interviewed the driver of the coach and we are to visit and interview the driver of the van." Surrey Police said on Tuesday that the cyclist - who officers were originally trying to trace - had now come forward and been spoken to. "Officers also spoke to a number of other witnesses following the incident," a spokeswoman added PC McGregor said that parents were able to pick up their children very quickly after the accident. The youngsters got out of the coach through the emergency exit and gathered on the driveway of a nearby house, where the owner helped to look after them by handing out blankets and warm drinks. Headteacher David Jeffs plus two other members of staff from Waverley Abbey School also went to the scene to conduct a head count and manage the situation when parents arrived. Tilford Road was closed in both directions for just under six hours while recovery of the coach took place. http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/21...ulled_from_dit... Given that the efficacy of helmets is questionable shouldn't your request be that children should wear full body armour when travelling in coaches and when in cars too? This would undoubtedly reduce child casualties by a significant amount. Doug. |
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message . uk... Maybe a reason to make schoolkids wear helmets on coaches like they did when on a school walk out at Goathland the other day. QUOTE: AN accident involving a pedal cyclist and a van left a school coach carrying 41 children stuck in a ditch at the side of a road in Farnham. The crash happened in Tilford Road, close to the Duke of Cambridge pub, at around 3.45pm on Monday. The single decker coach was carrying children from Waverley Abbey School. A girl and a boy aged between eight and 11 were put in neck braces and taken to the Royal Surrey County Hospital in Guildford suffering from whiplash-type injuries. A number of other children were treated at the scene for shock, as was the coach driver. PC Joe McGregor, speaking at the scene on Monday afternoon, said: "The road has a shallow turn. We have interviewed the driver of the coach and we are to visit and interview the driver of the van." Surrey Police said on Tuesday that the cyclist - who officers were originally trying to trace - had now come forward and been spoken to. "Officers also spoke to a number of other witnesses following the incident," a spokeswoman added PC McGregor said that parents were able to pick up their children very quickly after the accident. The youngsters got out of the coach through the emergency exit and gathered on the driveway of a nearby house, where the owner helped to look after them by handing out blankets and warm drinks. Headteacher David Jeffs plus two other members of staff from Waverley Abbey School also went to the scene to conduct a head count and manage the situation when parents arrived. Tilford Road was closed in both directions for just under six hours while recovery of the coach took place. http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/21...ch_after_crash -- Simon Mason I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say? Is it that cyclists should be made to have road risks insurance? Is it that cycles should carry registration plates and that riders should have compulsory testing? We are all already aware that cyclists can be involved in or even cause accidents that may impact on other road users. The fact that the police were initially trying to trace the cyclist, but he apparently came forward would tend to support the use of registration plates for ID purposes. |
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On Tuesday, 22 May 2012 11:41:05 UTC+1, Partac wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message . uk... Maybe a reason to make schoolkids wear helmets on coaches like they did when on a school walk out at Goathland the other day. QUOTE: AN accident involving a pedal cyclist and a van left a school coach carrying 41 children stuck in a ditch at the side of a road in Farnham. The crash happened in Tilford Road, close to the Duke of Cambridge pub, at around 3.45pm on Monday. The single decker coach was carrying children from Waverley Abbey School. A girl and a boy aged between eight and 11 were put in neck braces and taken to the Royal Surrey County Hospital in Guildford suffering from whiplash-type injuries. A number of other children were treated at the scene for shock, as was the coach driver. PC Joe McGregor, speaking at the scene on Monday afternoon, said: "The road has a shallow turn. We have interviewed the driver of the coach and we are to visit and interview the driver of the van." Surrey Police said on Tuesday that the cyclist - who officers were originally trying to trace - had now come forward and been spoken to. "Officers also spoke to a number of other witnesses following the incident," a spokeswoman added PC McGregor said that parents were able to pick up their children very quickly after the accident. The youngsters got out of the coach through the emergency exit and gathered on the driveway of a nearby house, where the owner helped to look after them by handing out blankets and warm drinks. Headteacher David Jeffs plus two other members of staff from Waverley Abbey School also went to the scene to conduct a head count and manage the situation when parents arrived. Tilford Road was closed in both directions for just under six hours while recovery of the coach took place. http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/21...ch_after_crash -- Simon Mason I'm not quite sure what you are trying to say? Is it that cyclists should be made to have road risks insurance? Is it that cycles should carry registration plates and that riders should have compulsory testing? We are all already aware that cyclists can be involved in or even cause accidents that may impact on other road users. The same applies to horses, do you propose to tattoo numbers on their arses? |
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"Tris" wrote in message ... In post "Partac" wrote: [...] The fact that the police were initially trying to trace the cyclist, but he apparently came forward would tend to support the use of registration plates for ID purposes. Doesn't the fact the cyclist in this case came forward to speak to the police clearly demonstrated that bicycle registration plates would have been completely unnecessary? Of course not - how many times have we seen examples being pasted on this group where the cyclist just rides away never to be seen again? Just because there is one cyclist with a sense of guilt it doesn't mean that they all behave in the same way. |
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On 23/05/2012 17:49, Tris wrote:
In Judith wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:48:59 GMT, (Tris) wrote: In "Partac" wrote: "Tris" wrote in message ... In "Partac" wrote: [...] The fact that the police were initially trying to trace the cyclist, but he apparently came forward would tend to support the use of registration plates for ID purposes. Doesn't the fact the cyclist in this case came forward to speak to the police clearly demonstrated that bicycle registration plates would have been completely unnecessary? Of course not - how many times have we seen examples being pasted on this group where the cyclist just rides away never to be seen again? But it would be one of those cases that would tend to support the use of registration plates for ID purposes and not this particular one that you have tried to put forward as an example. This particular one would be better suited to be put forward by those who oppose such registration, as an example of why registration plates are not needed. Just because there is one cyclist with a sense of guilt it doesn't mean that they all behave in the same way. Next, then, I would have thought, we would at least need to know if there are enough cyclists without a sense of guilt, involved in enough serious incidents, who are never managed to be traced, to warrant the introduction of bicycle registration. Even after that, we would have to factor in all the other implications before coming to a final decision. I have been involved with or witnessed a number of accidents with cyclists where the cyclist buggered off smartish and did not provide their details I have never, never been involved with or witnessed an accident with a pedestrian, a motor vehicle, or a horse rider where the other party has buggered off smartish. The cyclists are carrying out our job for us in calling for registration and regulation. I'm not sure the yobs in society are getting away with their yobbishness by using bicycles any more than by not using bicycles. But, whatever, we're all, of course, responsible for our actions - and we should rightly be held accountable for them. How? |
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On 23/05/2012 22:05, Tris wrote:
In JNugent wrote: On 23/05/2012 17:49, Tris wrote: In Judith wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2012 16:48:59 GMT, (Tris) wrote: In "Partac" wrote: "Tris" wrote in message ... In "Partac" wrote: [...] The fact that the police were initially trying to trace the cyclist, but he apparently came forward would tend to support the use of registration plates for ID purposes. Doesn't the fact the cyclist in this case came forward to speak to the police clearly demonstrated that bicycle registration plates would have been completely unnecessary? Of course not - how many times have we seen examples being pasted on this group where the cyclist just rides away never to be seen again? But it would be one of those cases that would tend to support the use of registration plates for ID purposes and not this particular one that you have tried to put forward as an example. This particular one would be better suited to be put forward by those who oppose such registration, as an example of why registration plates are not needed. Just because there is one cyclist with a sense of guilt it doesn't mean that they all behave in the same way. Next, then, I would have thought, we would at least need to know if there are enough cyclists without a sense of guilt, involved in enough serious incidents, who are never managed to be traced, to warrant the introduction of bicycle registration. Even after that, we would have to factor in all the other implications before coming to a final decision. I have been involved with or witnessed a number of accidents with cyclists where the cyclist buggered off smartish and did not provide their details I have never, never been involved with or witnessed an accident with a pedestrian, a motor vehicle, or a horse rider where the other party has buggered off smartish. The cyclists are carrying out our job for us in calling for registration and regulation. I'm not sure the yobs in society are getting away with their yobbishness by using bicycles any more than by not using bicycles. But, whatever, we're all, of course, responsible for our actions - and we should rightly be held accountable for them. How? With as little cost to the quality of life of those of us who are not yobs as possible. Any thoughts on how the quality of life of the non-yob majority of drivers can be improved? |
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