Divorce Your Car --and get into a relationship with a Bike!

On 25 Jul 2006 07:40:06 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote:


R Brickston wrote:
We should abandon the issue of religion and bicycles though we know for
a fact what Jesus would have ridden...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...esusonbike.jpg

That was a letdown.

I know, you'd assume Jesus would have driven an SUV judging by the
number of them with the bumper stickers "In God We Trust," "God Is On
Our Side," "God Bless America," "God Is My Co-Pilot," etc, etc, but no,
he would have ridden a bicycle, or at the most a rented Ford Focus on
weekends.

I picture him this way: He gets to preach early in the morning, rides
his bike to the bus stop and puts it on the bus, then preach in the bus
the benefits of biking and how it is a sure way to heaven, finally come
the Romans in an SUV and crucify him for sedicious behavior.

Hmm... What kind of bike (or vehicle) would Mohammed* ride/drive?

*The Prophet, not the guy at the convenience store.

"george conklin" wrote in
k.net:

That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain
crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the
past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of
ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans
were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower
too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one
doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has
become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these
long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on like
it has in the past.

You are part of the problem.

--
fnood fneep gnip gnop
http://greep.flood.nit

"donquijote1954" wrote in
ups.com:

That's why you don't see commuters on bikes around.

Where do you live, because I see plenty.

--
fnood fneep gnip gnop
http://greep.flood.nit

Kevan Smith wrote:
"george conklin" wrote in
k.net:

That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain
crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the
past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of
ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans
were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower
too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one
doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has
become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these
long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on
like it has in the past.

You are part of the problem.

A scathing blow! LOL

"Kevan Smith" wrote in message
. 170.91...
"george conklin" wrote in
k.net:

That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain
crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the
past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of
ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans
were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower
too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one
doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has
become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these
long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on like
it has in the past.

You are part of the problem.

You mean that you think that Long Island was created by Al Gore?
Long-term changes in the earth's climate are well documented and we have
been in a warming cycle for 10,000 years now. I suggest a geology major for
you.

george conklin wrote:
"Sojourner" wrote in message
oups.com...

It has long been known that global warming, ---if it really happens
quickly,
as opposed to what has been going on for 10,000 years, that is--- will
enable the human population to expand, not contract. In short, the
planet
will become more friendly to the human species. This is what Europeans
hate.

Not by any credible scientist, it hasn't.

In fact, there are grave concerns regarding fruiting crops and grains -
the change in climate is already interfering with pollenation and
maturation of crops we depend on for our food.

Sojourner


That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain crops.

Dude. You're ignoring the LOSS of land for growing through
desertification and rising seas, and the loss of crops, and the loss of
pollinators, and billions of displaced people, and the loss of food
animals and wildlife etc. etc. etc.

We don't have wooly mammoths to help us through the long ice age
anymore. You know that people in the last ice age weren't all that
numerous, and they weren't all that healthy, either.

Global warming is not a Good Thing. You're loony if you think it is!
Oceans rising just 2" or 3" constitute MILES land lost all around the
coastline of every island and continent on the planet. Some islands
will be lost altogether.

Sojourner

R Brickston wrote:
On 25 Jul 2006 07:40:06 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote:


R Brickston wrote:
We should abandon the issue of religion and bicycles though we know for
a fact what Jesus would have ridden...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...esusonbike.jpg

That was a letdown.

I know, you'd assume Jesus would have driven an SUV judging by the
number of them with the bumper stickers "In God We Trust," "God Is On
Our Side," "God Bless America," "God Is My Co-Pilot," etc, etc, but no,
he would have ridden a bicycle, or at the most a rented Ford Focus on
weekends.

I picture him this way: He gets to preach early in the morning, rides
his bike to the bus stop and puts it on the bus, then preach in the bus
the benefits of biking and how it is a sure way to heaven, finally come
the Romans in an SUV and crucify him for sedicious behavior.

Hmm... What kind of bike (or vehicle) would Mohammed* ride/drive?

*The Prophet, not the guy at the convenience store.

Mohammed would have ridden another bicycle. In no way he'd do like the
prince and other royalty of the Oil Kingdom who today also drive SUVs.
In other words, all those who got money drive SUVs no matter what
religion they claim to profess --which they deny in their very acts.
Confusing?

Kevan Smith wrote:
"george conklin" wrote in
k.net:

That does not address the issue of expanded land for growing gain
crops. Besides, the earth has gone through many such cycles in the
past. 10,000 years ago most of North America was under 400 feet of
ice, with Long Island as the terminal moraine. Further, the oceans
were in the past about 400 feet higher than today, and 400 feet lower
too. So we are in the middle of the latest warming cycle. No one
doubted this in the past. No one doubts it today, except that it has
become political to say that the human animal is the cause of these
long-term cycles. Al Gore may sell books, but the earth moves on like
it has in the past.

You are part of the problem.

I agree. We'll have his name written in the list of guilty people who
caused Global Warming. And then he'll burn in the eternal fire of Hell,
where all the Christian Republicans go.

On 25 Jul 2006 16:35:40 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote:


R Brickston wrote:
On 25 Jul 2006 07:40:06 -0700, "donquijote1954"
wrote:


R Brickston wrote:
We should abandon the issue of religion and bicycles though we know for
a fact what Jesus would have ridden...

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...esusonbike.jpg

That was a letdown.

I know, you'd assume Jesus would have driven an SUV judging by the
number of them with the bumper stickers "In God We Trust," "God Is On
Our Side," "God Bless America," "God Is My Co-Pilot," etc, etc, but no,
he would have ridden a bicycle, or at the most a rented Ford Focus on
weekends.

I picture him this way: He gets to preach early in the morning, rides
his bike to the bus stop and puts it on the bus, then preach in the bus
the benefits of biking and how it is a sure way to heaven, finally come
the Romans in an SUV and crucify him for sedicious behavior.

Hmm... What kind of bike (or vehicle) would Mohammed* ride/drive?

*The Prophet, not the guy at the convenience store.

Mohammed would have ridden another bicycle. In no way he'd do like the
prince and other royalty of the Oil Kingdom who today also drive SUVs.
In other words, all those who got money drive SUVs no matter what
religion they claim to profess --which they deny in their very acts.
Confusing?

Not confusing. I was on a Pan Am flight eons ago and this particular
747 had full length curtains floor to ceiling next to the windows in
various places. According to my travel agent girlfriend, this
particular plane was of a small fleet used for service to the Middle
East. The woman would board dressed in the tribal clothing, covered
from head to toe. Once the plane was out of what she called "Mecca
airspace," the women would close the curtains and change into the
latest Parisien haute couture. Of course, this was back in economy
class, their menfolk were all up in First and Business.

Kevan Smith wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in
ups.com:

That's why you don't see commuters on bikes around.

Where do you live, because I see plenty.

Miami, Fla. I think the only place where you see them around here is
the very small South Beach or Key West, 160 miles away, both with very
limited parking.

Otherwise you may see some bum here and there or the guy with the
suspended license riding on the sidewalk with a Mickey Mouse bike.

If you hear the stories from other cyclists, it sounds scary out there.
A lady friend was the target for an egg thrown from a car and now she's
scared...

Nobody rational does that around here. Only a Quixote...

Anyway the national average of bike commuters for the whole nation is
1%.

Letter of support:

Jorge Serrano wrote:

I hope you are succesful with you bicycle campaing. I ride at a bicycle
lane (one of the few in south Florida) near my home. Believe it or not
even where there are designated lanes there are problem with cyclist
rights. In my case it's moslty pedestrians sharing the lane. I
contacted the Department of Transportation and as it turns out
pedestrians have to stick to the sidewalks if they are available. Guess
what, there are sidewalks available right next to the bike only lane
and still people create unnecessary danger illegaly for no good reason.
I have been meaning to start some kind of action in regards to this. My
wife and daughter also use the lane often. I have found it dificult to
take on another task right now since my plate is plenty full. If I do
anything else I will let you know about any helpful information I were
to come accross. Besides that I will tell you that my strong suspicion
that one of the reasons that South Florida is one of the
most dangerous places for pedestrians and cyclists is, I hate to say
it, but the ignorance of people which come from places where laws such
as bike
only lanes are totally alien to them. I'm hispanic so obviously I'm not
being racist but rather a realist and would make the point that the
biggest problem is ignorance. This would be resolved by divulging
information about street safety and pedestrian and cyclist rights. For
example one of my ideas I'm planning is to put up signs explaining the
law around the bike lane I frequent. Perhaps something like that might
be helpful to you. I would suggest you do websites such as:
http://www.floridabicycle.org/whoweare.html
http://www.floridacycling.com/
There are others if you search the web.
Good luck
Phuntsok