Delineating areas of expertise: who's the king of the spillproof mug?

missing on piezo ultrasonics applications here.....

On 6/8/2014 5:34 PM, wrote:
duh duh duh I wuz over at Wal today n had needs for a Tupperware for the icebox holding lemons/red peppers and a drinking glass maybe without BFA or BFX.

Wal had consolidated housewares...the snowbirds gone leaving us poor folk...stalking around I found a large shelf area stocked with designer cold drink highball/capucino glasses. News here. Yawl seen this phenom ?

Thermos has a line at $8+...single wall.

Incroyablee, the offering appears a descentant of cycleware. !


http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, June 9, 2014 4:53:20 AM UTC+1, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Walking on a treadmill? Seriously? Wow.



Well, if you must:

I don't ask the permission of fascist scum like you, Franki-boy. Especially not those dumb enough to assume that I keep the same diurnal patterns drummed into them in a lifetime at the beck and call of their salary-master.

http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/.../aiqerAq6T.png

It's embarrassing to the rest of us when some dumb Polack mismanages even his insults so that his intended victim, instead of being offended, just feels sorry for such an unsophisticated street corner jerk. With all the images available, you must have clicked on the first, dumbest, least interesting one, Franki-boy. Can't you at least try, sport, say up to the standard of at least Daniels? Surely you can manage that!

- Frank Krygowski

What a sorry piece of sewerage.

Andre Jute

Thanks, all. The Parkinson's cup, now out of production, seems clever, though it doesn't do much good if your mouth is moving. Yo, Jeff, the straw isn't the brightest thing you ever said: it concentrates the burn of hot liquid.

I think Jay's idea of a simple stainless steel mug is probably the most practical one here. We have several kinds of mugs in the kitchen that belong to other members of my family. I'll try some of those on the treadmill.

Wonderful what one can discover on a cycling conference.

Andre Jute

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

Thanks, all. The Parkinson's cup, now out of production, seems clever, though
it doesn't do much good if your mouth is moving.

No problem. Just add a very loose and highly damped suspension (i.e.
Steadicam) onto your bicycle frame and seat. You and the cup stay
level with the ground, while frame and seat bounce around. I think
the trick will be not to get seasick.

Yo, Jeff, the straw isn't the brightest thing you ever said:
it concentrates the burn of hot liquid.

Yeah, that's true. Just use a smaller diameter straw to prevent
burns or simply don't boil the coffee.

I think Jay's idea of a simple stainless steel mug is probably the
most practical one here. We have several kinds of mugs in the
kitchen that belong to other members of my family. I'll try
some of those on the treadmill.

Practical? Practical is a state of mind, not a design specification.
All that's required to make something seem practical is a well paid
and highly visible claque using the product. Once the buying public
sees celebrities participating in bicycle rides drinking from gyro
stabilized coffee cups, it soon becomes practical.

Wonderful what one can discover on a cycling conference.

At the bottom of every garbage dumpster is a diamond. Few will expend
the effort digging for it.

Data is free. Information must be extracted by brute force.

Andre Jute
--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 6/8/2014 5:26 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Sunday, June 8, 2014 10:23:20 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
Gentlemen (and whichever ladies haven't yet given up on you):



If Scharfie's the world's maximum expert on cupholders on bicycles (Jesus, what modest ambitions that poor fellow has), and Krygo's the world's maximum expert on holding up legitimate traffic by riding stubbornly in the middle of the lane, can I be the world's maximum expert on cupholders on treadmills? Please.



Well, actually, my treadmill has two cupholders, which currently hold things like the remote control for the music on my gym Mac, the treadmill's security clip, an Adonit Jot for drawing on my iPad when I get bored with working while I walk, some silicon paintmovers for painting ditto in oils or acrylics, and so on, my phone so I can call my agent and upbraid him for being slack and sleeping while I exercise, and some unidentifiable matter that may be the earlobe of a pesky door-to-door salesman who won't be returning for it.



What I really need is a spillproof mug, like the spill proof brush-washer I already have. Any ideas (well, except taking the lane)?



Andre Jute

We don't want to hear from those who think that drinking coffee, not a healthy activity, is fundamentally incompatible with walking on a treadmill, a healthy activity. We passed that stage while you weren't looking. By now you should be used to people whispering behind your back.

My recommendation is to go as simple as possible -- because simple is washable. A glass liner or SS is better than plastic, IMO. Avoid complicated, spring-loaded, trap-door, screw on tops that cannot be thoroughly cleaned (and are not dishwasher safe). In fact, my favorite cup -- the one that imparts the least flavor and keeps coffee reasonably warm and is decent at preventing spills is a free cup I got from Ski magazine -- a stainless thermal cup with a simple, plastic press-on lid.

The Contigo gets good reviews, and I own a couple (cheap at Costco), but I have the old model with the complicated lid that does not open up for easy cleaning. The body is hand wash only, and for some reason, mine holds a coffee stench -- even though it is stainless. It actually smells like an old ash tray. I probably need to throw in some TSP or some of the coffee urn cleaner to see if I can get that out. But I worry that it will get trapped in the various non-removable O-rings and seals in the body of the cup that mate with the lid.

-- Jay Beattie.

I got a good mug for free at a recent trade show I went to. It just has
a simple flip open lid for hot beverages and it also came with another
lid with a built in straw for cold beverage.

It's this one: http://www.leedsworld.com/products/item/?item=1623-51
but I don't think that you can buy it anywhere as it's a promotional
product. Not insulated or vacuum.

Jay is right, simple is better. Though the old Contigo is not really
difficult to clean.

For vacuum bottles look at the Bubba brand which has a very simple lid
and is also very inexpensive.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Bubba-24-oz-709-ml-Dual-Wall-Vacuum-Insulated-Stainless-Steel-Hero-Bottle-in-Charcoal-Black-10454-CharBlack/204586516

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Bubba-16-oz-473-ml-Dual-Wall-Vacuum-Insulated-Stainless-Steel-Hero-Bottle-in-Gunmetal-Gray-6624-Gunmetal/204586518

These are widely sold, including at Walmart.

Always remember, "Experts Agree--Coffee is Good Food." Seriously though,
coffee has enormous health benefits and the idea that it's somehow bad
for your health is ludicrous unless you have some health issue that
precludes you from consuming caffeine. Coffee is an herbal beverage made
from the seed of the coffee plant. In fact, coffee is probably the
healthiest food that many people consume every day.
http://authoritynutrition.com/top-13-evidence-based-health-benefits-of-coffee/

On Monday, June 9, 2014 5:01:56 PM UTC+1, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:43:59 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute

wrote:



Thanks, all. The Parkinson's cup, now out of production, seems clever, though

it doesn't do much good if your mouth is moving.



No problem. Just add a very loose and highly damped suspension (i.e.

Steadicam) onto your bicycle frame and seat. You and the cup stay

level with the ground, while frame and seat bounce around. I think

the trick will be not to get seasick.



Yo, Jeff, the straw isn't the brightest thing you ever said:

it concentrates the burn of hot liquid.



Yeah, that's true. Just use a smaller diameter straw to prevent

burns or simply don't boil the coffee.



I think Jay's idea of a simple stainless steel mug is probably the

most practical one here. We have several kinds of mugs in the

kitchen that belong to other members of my family. I'll try

some of those on the treadmill.



Practical? Practical is a state of mind, not a design specification.

All that's required to make something seem practical is a well paid

and highly visible claque using the product. Once the buying public

sees celebrities participating in bicycle rides drinking from gyro

stabilized coffee cups, it soon becomes practical.



Wonderful what one can discover on a cycling conference.



At the bottom of every garbage dumpster is a diamond. Few will expend

the effort digging for it.



Data is free. Information must be extracted by brute force.



Andre Jute

--

Jeff Liebermann

150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com

Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com

Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Always a tonic hearing from you, Jeff. Though it is a mystery to me how you manage to make a living. I've never even heard of another engineer with a sense of humor making a living, never mind met one. I suspect the other engineers cull those with a sense of humor.

Andre Jute

On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:04:12 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote:

Always a tonic hearing from you, Jeff.

Catatonic or some other tonic? I know my rants have an effect, but I
never dreamed it would bring you to a complete stop.

Though it is a mystery to me how you manage to make a living.

That's easy. As an engineer of sorts, I have no life, no obsessions,
no hobbies, and no spare time. I don't have a decadent and lavish
lifestyle. I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, do sports, cook, fly,
fornicate, or engage in cultural activities. With 100.0% of my waking
time dedicated to separating the customers from their money, it's easy
enough to make a living.

I've never even heard of another engineer with a sense of humor
making a living, never mind met one. I suspect the other engineers
cull those with a sense of humor.

I think the problem is that other engineers and managers are unable to
distinguish between serious design and my humor. That's intentional
as the ultimate goal of my rants is to confuse the reader to the point
where they are unable to determine if I'm serious or joking. Mine is
an uncommon form of humor rarely found in engineering circles (or
squares). There are benefits to such humor. When the reader is
unable to distinguish between humor and serious design, they are also
unable to provide adequate criticism. Should I be taken seriously,
they could easily be labeled a fool for failing to recognize the
humor. If they treat my rants as a joke, they could also be labeled a
fool for failing to understand an innovative and serious design
concept. It also gives me an easy exit strategy should my idea fail
on close inspection. I have merely to indicate that it was a joke,
and I'm saved from the dishonorable task of defending a genuine bad
idea.

Of course, there are downsides to such engineering humor. The major
risk is that should I ever present a genuinely serious idea for
consideration, the tendency is for the readers to treat it as a joke.
I can also make things far worse by failing to deliver any humor,
causing the reader to assume that they had missed the humor, and again
treat my idea as a joke. However, the risk is well worth taking
because packaging an idea in a humorous wrapper tends to make it more
palatable to those that are always on the defensive. It's much like
wrapping a bitter pill in candy. This is especially true in the
bicycling forums, where the defenders of traditional geometry,
components, and materials chronically chant the refrain "everything
possible has already been tried and rejected 100 years ago" at the
first sign of innovation.

There's a method to my madness, but if you remove the method, what's
left is only madness.

--
Jeff Liebermann
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Andrew Muzi

?? I doahn no. Been awhile ( since reading Lieb's explanation of the shrinking universe) last stumbled on a trove of stuff going unidentified as to use. WTF ?

Wandered up the bay to Wal http://goo.gl/C1878a copula weekends after the snowbird exodus. I was sipping a cold one watching fat wobble in.

With the boids gone...no fat. Amazing. J are we thin. Ivy League coeds slinking cross the lot. Leathery fishermen. Tottering old Vogue models.

Fat had gone with the heat.

http://goo.gl/EIX5dF

notice THE EVIL FIENDS at GooMess inserted bicycle photos...

interesting search software in GooImages. Clearly, adjectival searching doesn't match the Image Info but coughs it up anyway. maybe lieb can explain this phenomena ? He knew Marconi you know...

here's a goodun.....I thought Holy Cow this one's from Upper New York State...

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...zr48ibajpg.jpg

NYC touring