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  #51  
Old August 14th 19, 04:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 8/14/2019 11:28 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

Never the less, you get a fairly accurate picture of power output with weight, frontal area (including estimated drag factor) and time over distance. The accuracy of this rivals a power meter.

As I pointed out, there really is no use for a power meter on a sports bike other than to brag about your power output.


And as you've shown us, it's even easier to brag about your power output
if you don't have a power meter.

400 W over 10 km from a guy older than 70? At _least_ enter the Senior
Olympics so we can see your name in the record books. According to
http://bikecalculator.com/how.html your claimed power output would
easily yield a new world record.

Go for it, Tom!

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Old August 14th 19, 05:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 8:50:21 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/14/2019 11:28 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

Never the less, you get a fairly accurate picture of power output with weight, frontal area (including estimated drag factor) and time over distance. The accuracy of this rivals a power meter.

As I pointed out, there really is no use for a power meter on a sports bike other than to brag about your power output.


And as you've shown us, it's even easier to brag about your power output
if you don't have a power meter.

400 W over 10 km from a guy older than 70? At _least_ enter the Senior
Olympics so we can see your name in the record books. According to
http://bikecalculator.com/how.html your claimed power output would
easily yield a new world record.

Go for it, Tom!

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https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2001...for-age-group/
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Old August 14th 19, 05:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 8:34:01 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 6:40:02 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 10:08:24 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 03:50:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:54:02 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:


You don't invest do you?

There are investments and investments.

If you did you'd have some idea of what the
market is doing lately.

That is not an investment, but largly gambling,


But isn't the stock market essentially you, the share holder, betting
your money that the company would make a profit?


It's more like betting that the stock price will rise or fall unrelated to the book value of a company or its earnings/balance sheet. We know this from the dot-com bust. https://investor.uber.com/news-event...s/default.aspx Gee, just a $5.2 billion loss. Buy Uber!

-- Jay Beattie.


Jay, investing in an unknown commodity is indeed a bet. Indeed that was the dot-com bust. Why would people invest in companies whose product is information when you don't know what that information is worth?

Are you suggesting that the Chinese have purchased Smithfield Foods, Motorola and GE as a BET?


And you're a market expert? Buying a company or controlling interest in a company is not the same as an OTC stock purchase. Chinese buy companies to acquire IP or a stable source of inputs or access to markets. The Chinese are a huge consumer of pork, but their pork infrastructure is rudimentary and basically a bunch of back-yard farmers. They do not have factory pig farms on the US scale, and buying pigs on the world market involves risks of many kinds, including disease. So to ensure a stable supply of disease-free pigs, you buy Smithfield. You buy Motorola for the IP and to get access to US phone markets. Same goes with buying GE's appliance unit. Its about access to markets. They are not just playing the stock market. The Chinese are buying up America to get its markets and resources. Be afraid! It's like the aliens in Independence Day!

-- Jay Beattie.
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Old August 14th 19, 06:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 06:39:59 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 10:08:24 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 03:50:34 -0000 (UTC), news18
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 08:54:02 -0700, Tom Kunich wrote:


You don't invest do you?

There are investments and investments.

If you did you'd have some idea of what the
market is doing lately.

That is not an investment, but largly gambling,


But isn't the stock market essentially you, the share holder, betting
your money that the company would make a profit?


It's more like betting that the stock price will rise or fall unrelated to the book value of a company or its earnings/balance sheet. We know this from the dot-com bust. https://investor.uber.com/news-event...s/default.aspx Gee, just a $5.2 billion loss. Buy Uber!

-- Jay Beattie.


I don't necessarily agree with that as in many cases I was looking for
income, or growth, i.e., dividends from stocks that I had bought.

As for dot-com stocks I have always considered them as proof that the
old saying that the stock market is driven by two emotions - greed
and terror :-) (note that common sense is missing).
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cheers,

John B.

  #55  
Old August 14th 19, 06:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:18:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 8:50:21 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/14/2019 11:28 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:

Never the less, you get a fairly accurate picture of power output with weight, frontal area (including estimated drag factor) and time over distance. The accuracy of this rivals a power meter.

As I pointed out, there really is no use for a power meter on a sports bike other than to brag about your power output.


And as you've shown us, it's even easier to brag about your power output
if you don't have a power meter.

400 W over 10 km from a guy older than 70? At _least_ enter the Senior
Olympics so we can see your name in the record books. According to
http://bikecalculator.com/how.html your claimed power output would
easily yield a new world record.

Go for it, Tom!

--
- Frank Krygowski


https://www.bicycling.com/news/a2001...for-age-group/


I see. Some old goat cycles 14.01 miles in one hour and you are trying
to equate it to "400 W over 10 km from a guy older than 70"?

Or are you bragging that your power output is more than a guy that is
105 years old?

Or is it simply that you don't know what you are talking about?
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cheers,

John B.

  #56  
Old August 14th 19, 09:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Sir Ridesalot
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:17:40 AM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 4:52:50 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 6:35:56 PM UTC-4, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 1:14:58 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Tuesday, August 13, 2019 at 2:21:18 PM UTC-4, Claus AƟmann wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote:

the most common power meters are built-in to cranks.
Aside from the fact that most only read directly from half a crank,

As long as the power meter isn't only in a single crank _arm_, it
measure the total outout (check how the power goes to the rear
wheel...)

PROS do not produce this level of power for 10K - they can do it for 100K.

Please tell us which "PROS" can generate 400W for 100K. (BTW: are
you talking about km (kilo meters, metric) or something else when
you write "K"?) You might want to look at the power output for the
hour record -- obviously that kind of power can NOT be achieved for
two hours.

Tom is using K (1,000) instead of km (1) by mistake.

Cheers

You and Frank have a lot in common. The last time you rode was down to the store and back. For another pack of cigarettes.


I've refrained from replying to many of your rantings but...

You are absolutely hilarious with your misconceptions, your errors and your plain lack of knowledge in so many topics you post about.

For your information, not that I need to provide, I've never smoked a cigarette or tried smoking one in my entire life. You sir, are completely delusional.

Cheers


Your delusions began when you started considering yourself some sort of expert at anything. What have you done for a living since your replies seem to indicate that it was something like ditch digging or hod carrying.


ROTFLMAO

You are a hoot!

Cheers
  #57  
Old August 15th 19, 04:58 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joy Beeson
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B.
wrote:

A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast
as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph
for two hours last Sunday".


Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in
notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen
route. Write down distance.

Apply third-grade math.

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  #58  
Old August 15th 19, 05:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Sir Ridesalot
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On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:58:23 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B.
wrote:

A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast
as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph
for two hours last Sunday".


Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in
notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen
route. Write down distance.

Apply third-grade math.

--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/


Asking for BICYCLING directions on Google Maps can often have you riding WAY out of your way if you follow them. When I use Google Maps to calculate the distance on a planned ride I right click on the map at where I'm starting from and then add markers at various points alone the route I plan to ride. Otherwise I find that Google Maps will often deviate from the shortest route to take a route that uses a rail-trail or other off-road facility and those deviations can add many miles to a route.

Cheers
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Old August 15th 19, 05:26 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
jOHN b.
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 23:58:17 -0400, Joy Beeson
wrote:

On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B.
wrote:

A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast
as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12 mph
for two hours last Sunday".


Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in
notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen
route. Write down distance.

Apply third-grade math.


Come now, 2 x 1.5 + 32/ 47 (X 2) is hardly as impressive as "My
ergometer say's ... " :-)
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cheers,

John B.

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Old August 15th 19, 05:40 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 21:25:03 -0700, Sir Ridesalot wrote:

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 11:58:23 PM UTC-4, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 05:34:51 +0700, John B.
wrote:

A power meter is a vital accessory for the elderly bicycle enthusiast
as how else can he brag about his accomplishments - "I averaged 12
mph for two hours last Sunday".


Write down starting time in notebook. Write down finishing time in
notebook. Go to Google Maps, ask for directions along your chosen
route. Write down distance.

Apply third-grade math.

--
Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/


Asking for BICYCLING directions on Google Maps can often have you riding
WAY out of your way if you follow them.


Gogle mpas are so car orientated. There is always a (or more)better
bicycle route.

When I use Google Maps to
calculate the distance on a planned ride I right click on the map at
where I'm starting from and then add markers at various points alone the
route I plan to ride.


Otherwise I find that Google Maps will often
deviate from the shortest route to take a route that uses a rail-trail
or other off-road facility and those deviations can add many miles to a
route.


Over here, it frequently will have you travelling 1,000 miles on sealed
roads as opposed to 10miles on a gravel road.
 




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