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Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
Get rid of those visors, they do nothing but....they are held on with what, little velcro things or something? I doubt you would have gotten 'serious neck injuries' because of this little piece of plastic. I am not a helmet nazi but ya know, helmets never hurt, 'may' help. If ths is a troll, I'll know soon enough. Troll in what way? Anyway, I thought the visors were part of the hat (molded in) rather than attached. You and others set me straight. I have a bid in for a Giro now. |
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On Sat, 06 May 2006 15:38:26 -0600, Paul Cassel wrote:
Evaluating the crash, I figure that I may have been more badly hurt wearing a helmet, but ironically, I’ll will buy and from now on wear a helmet when riding. This sounds paradoxical, but here is my logic. The only place I hit was my face from the cheek down. I hit the glasses very hard, scraped away a lot of skin from my face, nose, upper lip and chin. There are other lower body injuries as well including a badly hurt right arm and leg. I would guess that had I hit just that way with a hat on, the visor would have exerted rotational force on my neck making for, perhaps, much more serious injuries. Well, you can get helmets without visors. It might also have kept your glasses from grinding into your face. Helmet advocates tend to exaggerate their ability to "save your life", which is bull, since the sort of accident that will kill a cyclist, say a head-on with a semi, would not be affected at all by a helmet. But for this sort of fall, having a helmet can lessen the damage to the face, and can cut down on the concussion. I wear one all the time, and I wear gloves. Both offer the same sort of protection against common minor injuries resulting from falls. -- David L. Johnson __o | The lottery is a tax on those who fail to understand _`\(,_ | mathematics. (_)/ (_) | |
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Paul Cassel wrote in
: Today I fell down hard on my road bike. I figure I was going about 25 mph when I hit new paint at the end of a wooden bridge I’ve been over dozens of times never finding any traction issues. However, sometime recently, the City decided to put new wood and paint on the bridge. Add some dew at 0600h and it made for a slippery surface. I skidded sideways and then, when I hit the tarmac again, I high sided. I was not wearing a helmet, but have good reflexes in the curl and roll. I ended up with a terrible case of road rash, my eyeglasses embedded in my cheek (the lens came out and stuck into my cheek right at the cheekbone) and a lot of debris embedded into my muscles plus other injuries. ..... Yes, I’m still opposed to mandatory helmet laws, but I doubt you’ll be seeing me ride without one from now on. I became pretty religous about wearing a helmet that would keep my eyeglasses from getting stuffed into my face after I evened up the stitch- count on my left and right eyebrows. Whenever I look at the glass lenses from the two 'incidents' I'm always reminded of what your knuclkes look like after you try to get that last pass on the grater but lose grip on the the piece of cheese you used to be grating. |
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David L. Johnson wrote:
Helmet advocates tend to exaggerate their ability to "save your life", which is bull, since the sort of accident that will kill a cyclist, say a head-on with a semi, would not be affected at all by a helmet. But for this sort of fall, having a helmet can lessen the damage to the face, and can cut down on the concussion. I wear one all the time, and I wear gloves. Both offer the same sort of protection against common minor injuries resulting from falls. Didn't mention it, but my gloves are totaled. The right one is in shreds. |
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On Sun, 07 May 2006 11:16:33 -0600, Paul Cassel
wrote: wrote: Subdural haematomas can occur some time after a crash but they're slowing building up. Easy to deal with if diagnosed. Rare in younger people. A MRI scan can exclude them with confidence. I was warned by the physician of the signs. She (the MD) advised me to get an MRI, but I declined. The impact was all facial with the greatest injury the eyeglass lens embedding into my cheek. Most of the primary impact was to my right arm, shoulder and hand (tuck and roll). Comparatively little impact to my face, but the damage there is most apparent. Dear Paul, To be fair to those concerned enough to advise an MRI, you can suffer the internal injuries that they mention without any exterior injury. We naturally expect a brain injury to involve a dramatic caved-in skull fracture or a bashed-in face, but it's quite common for the injury to be what's called rotational--in an abrupt spin of the head, the soft brain lags behind the hard skull, not a direct impact, much less a fracture or penetrating wound. By coincidence, here's a comment from Friday's short piece by a reference librarian gone mad about how easy it is to knock someone out: "A few basics: First, sudden acceleration or deceleration of the head seems to be essential. If somebody clouts you from above, so that your head remains stationary, you may suffer other injuries but probably no knockout. Second, strong evidence suggests that a KO requires twisting or rotational motion--one reason woodpeckers don't beat themselves silly, it's thought, is that their bills travel straight back and forth, like a jackhammer. In contrast, a boxer loses consciousness when a blow causes his brain to slosh and spin inside the skull." http://www.straightdope.com/columns/060505.html Glad you're feeling better. Cheers, Carl Fogel |
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