Is the lack of healthcare coverage keeping you away from biking?

Listen guys, you talk and talk about bicycles as if it were the only
thing wrong with this country. No! There are many thing that need
fixing besides our chaotic roads. And how about if you get hit by a
car (hit and run) and you don't have insurance? How about if you fall?
How about the physical therapy and the job that won't wait for you
after the accident? That alone will keep many Americans from riding a
bike.

(I answer at bottom)

On Oct 8, 11:48 pm, Answer_42 wrote:
On Oct 8, 6:45 pm, Chris wrote:

it's not communism, it's the fact that socialized medicine sucks. Talk
to Kitty Hundal, or just read her blog entry. Canadians will tell you
strait up that there implementation is nightmarish. I've heard this
from Canadians years ago, then some idiot socialist New Jerseyites try
to convince me that Canadians love it.
Some might say that for the sniffles and other totally unnecessary
doctor visits, *free* healthcare is a panacea. But when you actually
need a critical operation such as an organ or whatever, you get put on
a list, and are forced to cross the border to have your life saved.

You have no idea what the **** you are talking about.

I live in Canada.

My oldest son was rushed to the post-natal intensive care unit of a
hospital specialized in children care 18 hours after his birth. The
ambulance was escorted by 5 police cars to cut through traffic
because he was in a very serious condition. He spent 10 days in the
unit.
If I had been in America, because of my situation at the time, I would
not have been insured. He would have died. As simple as that.
My mom, who could not afford insurance if she were in the good ole
USA, has diabetes. She had a heart attack and then breast cancer. She
got all the operations and treatment necessary for her to live happily
another 10 years. She is still going strong. She would have died in
the USA.
This is only two people in my life. There are plenty more stories like
that.

Nobody ever died in Canada because of those so called lists ignorant
Americans like to mention. It is all bull****. In fact, you can often
get faster service in an emergecny ward in Canada then you do in
America, epsecially when compared to an American who has cheap
coverage.
European countries are even more advanced than Canada in that regard,
and they are not communists.

You are spouting propaganda designed to scare you into accepting a
below-par service while the government ****s you up the ass as they
(and the Insurance/Pharmaceutical companies) get rich on your back...
Don't believe me? Do some research and try to find out how much these
companies have "contributed" to politician campaigns...

Hell, even Cuba takes care of its people better than the USA does...
Why do you think life expectancy is THREE years lower in the States
when compared to Canada? And even more behind European countries. The
infant mortality rate is higher in the US than in Canada, any West-
European country and some South American ones. The list goes on.

So stick to the facts, please, and stop showing us that you have been
properly brainwashed.
________________________________________
Scepticism is the first step towards truth.
-- Denis Diderot

Americans truly believe they are #1, but hardly know any details about
the outside world.

Well, they hear things are real bad in Africa and make them feel good.
But if our politicians travel so much why don't they ever go to Europe
or even cross the border into Canada?

COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
(healthcare and bike proposals included)
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1

ComandanteBanana wrote:
Listen guys, you talk and talk about bicycles as if it were the only
thing wrong with this country.

If you are going to talk about specific non-UK countries it's pretty
daft to post your stuff into the UK-specific uk.rec.cycling.

It's rude, and since /we/have universal healthcare coverage in any case
it's also completely irrelevant.

So please desist from posting the likes of it into urc.
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

On Oct 9, 11:15*am, Peter Clinch wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Listen guys, you talk and talk about bicycles as if it were the only
thing wrong with this country.

If you are going to talk about specific non-UK countries it's pretty
daft to post your stuff into the UK-specific uk.rec.cycling.

It's rude, and since /we/have universal healthcare coverage in any case
it's also completely irrelevant.

So please desist from posting the likes of it into urc.
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch * * * * * * * * * *Medical Physics IT Officer

Unfortunately, telling this guy to stop inappropriate posting is like
telling a skunk to stop stinking.

- Frank Krygowski

On Oct 9, 11:15 am, Peter Clinch wrote:
ComandanteBanana wrote:
Listen guys, you talk and talk about bicycles as if it were the only
thing wrong with this country.

If you are going to talk about specific non-UK countries it's pretty
daft to post your stuff into the UK-specific uk.rec.cycling.

It's rude, and since /we/have universal healthcare coverage in any case
it's also completely irrelevant.

So please desist from posting the likes of it into urc.
Pete.

I don't know. Somehow the UK is responsible for starting this thing
that later became "America"...

Now please, how do you handle those injuries under the UK's universal
healthcare? Thanks!

On Oct 9, 1:37 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Oct 9, 11:15 am, Peter Clinch wrote:

ComandanteBanana wrote:
Listen guys, you talk and talk about bicycles as if it were the only
thing wrong with this country.

If you are going to talk about specific non-UK countries it's pretty
daft to post your stuff into the UK-specific uk.rec.cycling.

It's rude, and since /we/have universal healthcare coverage in any case
it's also completely irrelevant.

So please desist from posting the likes of it into urc.
Pete.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer

Unfortunately, telling this guy to stop inappropriate posting is like
telling a skunk to stop stinking.

You can always wear a mask, right?

Originally Posted by Roughstuff

I use my cycling as part of an overall health/training regimen. I have
alot of problems with minor scoliosis and numbness in my hands and
legs, and find that cycling actually improves how I feel because your
posture on a bike---you arms fully extended, etc---is one therapy that
is commonly recommended. Furthermore, my style of cycling is aerobic,
keeps me trim and fit, and lubricates the joints.

roughstuff

***

So your cycling falls under PREVENTION, right?

I guess Obama is for biking then. Everybody here voting for him or not
voting at all, right?

ComandanteBanana wrote:

Now please, how do you handle those injuries under the UK's universal
healthcare? Thanks!

You turn up at the doctor's or A&E and say "ouch" and the NHS takes over.

Now go away.
--
Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

"Comandante" Banana a.k.a. No Lion No Problem writes:

I don't know. Somehow the UK is responsible for starting this
thing that later became "America"...

=x= I realize that you're a slack-jawed idiot and all, but try
to rub two neurons together for a change. What you wrote is
TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC for uk.rec.cycling, and you were called out
on it. Get a grip.

=x= Try listening for a change. Cross-posting everywhere is
idiotic and only gets you *plonk*ed. You could at least attempt
to be on-topic for the newsgroups you inflict your blithering
idiocy on.
_Jym_

--
Arugula Bay Steelers for Truth

On Oct 10, 5:04 am, Jym Dyer wrote:
Unfortunately, telling this guy to stop inappropriate posting
is like telling a skunk to stop stinking.
You can always wear a mask, right?

=x= Advice to wear a [gas] mask seems to be an admission that
you stink. You stink like ****.

=x= You are *plonk*ed by many, in part because of your idiotic
cross-posting and in part because of the idiotic content of
anything and everything you write. You now, "*plonk*" is
the sound of **** plopping into toilet water, which further
underscores how badly you stink: in particular, your idiocy
and failure to abide by the most rudimentary etiquette by
inconsiderately cross-posting your off-topic drivel.
_Jym_

Is that your whole point, that people dismiss me because I cross post?
If people are stupid enough to ignore the jungle I'm talking about...
they may get eaten by the lion.

LAck of insurance doesnt keep the illegal "wrong way jose's" from
riding around here. They ride against traffic,no lights, etc. If
they get hit guess who pays? You and I . The wonderful medicaid plan
to keep illegals and indigents alive drains the economy. I work and
have insurance so dont really worry about getting hit.


On Oct 9, 11:01*am, ComandanteBanana
wrote:
Listen guys, you talk and talk about bicycles as if it were the only
thing wrong with this country. No! There are many thing that need
fixing besides our chaotic roads. And how about if you get hit by a
car (hit and run) and you don't have insurance? How about if you fall?
How about the physical therapy and the job that won't wait for you
after the accident? That alone will keep many Americans from riding a
bike.

(I answer at bottom)

On Oct 8, 11:48 pm, Answer_42 wrote:





On Oct 8, 6:45 pm, Chris wrote:

it's not communism, it's the fact that socialized medicine sucks. Talk
to Kitty Hundal, or just read her blog entry. Canadians will tell you
strait up that there implementation is nightmarish. I've heard this
from Canadians years ago, then some idiot socialist New Jerseyites try
to convince me that Canadians love it.
*Some might say that for the sniffles and other totally unnecessary
doctor visits, *free* healthcare is a panacea. But when you actually
need a critical operation such as an organ or whatever, you get put on
a list, and are forced to cross the border to have your life saved.

You have no idea what the **** you are talking about.

I live in Canada.

My oldest son was rushed to the post-natal intensive care unit of a
hospital specialized in children care 18 hours after his birth. The
ambulance was escorted *by 5 police cars to cut through traffic
because he was in a very serious condition. He spent 10 days in the
unit.
If I had been in America, because of my situation at the time, I would
not have been insured. He would have died. As simple as that.
My mom, who could not afford insurance if she were in the good ole
USA, has diabetes. She had a heart attack and then breast cancer. She
got all the operations and treatment necessary for her to live happily
another 10 years. She is still going strong. She would have died in
the USA.
This is only two people in my life. There are plenty more stories like
that.

Nobody ever died in Canada because of those so called lists ignorant
Americans like to mention. It is all bull****. In fact, you can often
get faster service in an emergecny ward in Canada then you do in
America, epsecially when compared to an American who has cheap
coverage.
European countries are even more advanced than Canada in that regard,
and they are not communists.

You are spouting propaganda designed to scare you into accepting a
below-par service while the government ****s you up the ass as they
(and the Insurance/Pharmaceutical companies) get rich on your back...
Don't believe me? Do some research and try to find out how much these
companies have "contributed" to politician campaigns...

Hell, even Cuba takes care of its people better than the USA does...
Why do you think life expectancy is THREE years lower in the States
when compared to Canada? And even more behind European countries. The
infant mortality rate is higher in the US than in Canada, any West-
European country and some South American ones. The list goes on.

So stick to the facts, please, and stop showing us that you have been
properly brainwashed.
________________________________________
Scepticism is the first step towards truth.
-- Denis Diderot

Americans truly believe they are #1, but hardly know any details about
the outside world.

Well, they hear things are real bad in Africa and make them feel good.
But if our politicians travel so much why don't they ever go to Europe
or even cross the border into Canada?

COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE
(healthcare and bike proposals included)http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1- Hide quoted text -

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