Carbon Bikes

The super light carbon fiber bikes are beginning to get old enough now to
begin failing. Will this damage the reputation of the manufacturers or will
it simply be accepted as the cost of having ultra-light equipment?

On Dec 13, 2:42*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The super light carbon fiber bikes are beginning to get old enough now to
begin failing. Will this damage the reputation of the manufacturers or will
it simply be accepted as the cost of having ultra-light equipment?

Haven't you tried this troll already?

Tom Kunich wrote:
The super light carbon fiber bikes are beginning to get old enough now to
begin failing. Will this damage the reputation of the manufacturers or will
it simply be accepted as the cost of having ultra-light equipment?

Scott wrote:
Haven't you tried this troll already?

Infinite loop or infinite poop.

On Dec 13, 1:42*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The super light carbon fiber bikes are beginning to get old enough now to
begin failing. Will this damage the reputation of the manufacturers or will
it simply be accepted as the cost of having ultra-light equipment?

Carbon fiber has excellent fatigue properties (cracks don't grow).
Where it falls down is in design/manufacturing defects and impact
resistance.

Phil H

"Phil H" wrote in message
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On Dec 13, 1:42 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The super light carbon fiber bikes are beginning to get old enough now
to
begin failing. Will this damage the reputation of the manufacturers or
will
it simply be accepted as the cost of having ultra-light equipment?

Carbon fiber has excellent fatigue properties (cracks don't grow).
Where it falls down is in design/manufacturing defects and impact
resistance.

The resin however does fail with age. It gains a little in ultimate strength
but becomes a bit more brittle with age. If the frame hasn't been designed
heavy enough they begin failing especially around the front derailleur
mount.

Kunich ask your therapist about some other method of 'making
friends'

This isn't working for anyone.

Tom Kunich wrote:
The super light carbon fiber bikes are beginning to get old enough now
to begin failing. Will this damage the reputation of the manufacturers
or will it simply be accepted as the cost of having ultra-light equipment?

Super Glue work pretty good, unless you're talking about every inch of
the frame starts to blister and hair line cracks every where you look.

I have road one that is 10 years old, and it seems solid. I think the
test would be the CF mountain bikes, they should go first.

On Dec 13, 3:42*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
The super light carbon fiber bikes are beginning to get old enough now to
begin failing. Will this damage the reputation of the manufacturers or will
it simply be accepted as the cost of having ultra-light equipment?

I see the "super light" qualifier.
I don't know what that means, as I am not a mind reader, in this case
thank God.

The old original Kestrels, which may or may not have qualified as
"super light", didn't require much time at all to begin failing.

Kestrel's damage control, like Trek's (to name one company I've at
least heard about IRT to "doings" with CF frame failures) was, IMS,
replacing broken frames.

That worked really, really well for some stars-in-their-eyes buyers,
some of whom enjoyed two or three replacements. Some such sweetened
with upgrades, of course.
--D-y

carbon failing is nothing new.

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

On Dec 14, 2:22*pm, "
wrote:
carbon failing is nothing new.

http://www.bustedcarbon.com/

The idiot in that link who forgot to check the roof rack is something
else. Only the perceptionally challenged would treat such an event on
a par with a broken finger nail and avertise their stupidity for all
to see.

Phil H