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Should cars be classed as drugs?
On Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:10:18 UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 09/02/2020 17:33, Mike Collins wrote: On Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:01:08 UTC, JNugent wrote: On 09/02/2020 16:06, Mike Collins wrote: The average UK salary is £36Kpa which means take home around £2K per month of which £500 will be spent to feed a driving habit rather than looking after family. These people need help. £500 a month buys a lot of car-use. It probably refers to more than one car. Are you sure you meant "average UK salary" and not "average UK household income"? I don't know. Why don't you do some research and report the outcome with references. I had already done that but didn't anticipate your rejection of the argument, particularly because average earnings are the stuff of news reports every year. But let's see... www.google.co.uk Enter: uk average pay 2020 ... the same first return as half an hour ago... https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNQ0Irm0nDkHAQvKNhU1823yc_deSg%3A 1581271251897&source=hp&ei=00hAXvCkNIKdlwTBhL64DQ& q=uk+average+pay+2020&oq=&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.35i362i39l10.0.0..4259...2.0..0.0.0.......0 .......gws-wiz.....10.qfk1QLqPO7g Or: https://tinyurl.com/wn8n3ky QUOTE: Employee earnings in the UK: 2019 ... Median weekly earnings for full-time employees reached £585 in April 2019, an increase of 2.9% since April 2018 ... ENDQUOTE Government departments involved with employment prefer to use weekly figures if they can. So... Calculator app... 585 x 52 = 30,420. You snipped a fair bit of my previous post. Here it is in full: QUOTE: £500 a month buys a lot of car-use. It probably refers to more than one car. Are you sure you meant "average UK salary" and not "average UK household income"? Current government stats have average (median) full time earnings at £585 a week (just over £30,000 gross - much less net). Household income will be higher than that. AIH, I don't think I've ever been in the habit of spoending £500 a month in car expenses. Not even including HP repayments. Well, when it did exceed that for quite a while, I was collecting something between £500 and £1,000 a month in travelling (car-use) expenses. I certainly wasn't paying £500 a month out of my own pocket (hardly anything, if anything at all, in fact). But of course, I am not holding out my case as representing the "average" (however defined). ENDQUOTE Happy to help. Do you understand the difference between Gross and Net? |
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Should cars be classed as drugs?
JNugent wrote:
AIH, I don't think I've ever been in the habit of spoending £500 a month in car expenses. Not even including HP repayments. Well, when it did exceed that for quite a while, I was collecting something between £500 and £1,000 a month in travelling (car-use) expenses. I certainly wasn't paying £500 a month out of my own pocket (hardly anything, if anything at all, in fact). But of course, I am not holding out my case as representing the "average" (however defined). I've never spent that much on running my own car. Even the Porsche doesn't cost me that much. Mind you, that has done all its depreciation, so there's a big saving. Ironically, the most expensive cars I've had on a monthly basis have been company cars, because the government really doesn't like people having a nice car for business mileage. They'd prefer us all to be hacking up and down in 1lt city cars. Or bloody massive 2-tonne battery filled behemouths. -- Steve H |
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Should cars be classed as drugs?
On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 6:57:43 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote: I used to be forced to take a break and post, instead of not taking breaks which is what I originally did. And got to work either **** wet through or stinking of sweat. Then you jumped of a bridge. ****. Why don't you write to the widows of Keith Emerson, Gary Speed and Robin Williams and let them know what selfish gits their husbands were? |
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On 09/02/2020 16:06, Mike Collins wrote:
The average UK salary is £36Kpa which means take home around £2K per month of which £500 will be spent to feed a driving habit rather than looking after family. These people need help. It is said that the threshold where tax paid exceeds benefits received is about £30k. There are clearly a large number of people sponging off taxpayers to pay their "road tax". £500 a month seems a rather high figure though. |
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Should cars be classed as drugs?
On Sunday, 9 February 2020 19:36:15 UTC, Steve H wrote:
JNugent wrote: AIH, I don't think I've ever been in the habit of spoending £500 a month in car expenses. Not even including HP repayments. Well, when it did exceed that for quite a while, I was collecting something between £500 and £1,000 a month in travelling (car-use) expenses. I certainly wasn't paying £500 a month out of my own pocket (hardly anything, if anything at all, in fact). But of course, I am not holding out my case as representing the "average" (however defined). I've never spent that much on running my own car. Even the Porsche There is nothing wrong with being gay, you were born that way. |
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Should cars be classed as drugs?
Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 6:57:43 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Simon Mason wrote: I used to be forced to take a break and post, instead of not taking breaks which is what I originally did. And got to work either **** wet through or stinking of sweat. Then you jumped of a bridge. ****. Why don't you write to the widows of Keith Emerson, Gary Speed and Robin Williams and let them know what selfish gits their husbands were? Tell us how much benefits you are sponging from the nation. You did brag about it. Tell us how much your treatment cost the NHS. Come along Simon, you always boasted about your big pension pot. ****. |
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Should cars be classed as drugs?
On 09/02/2020 19:35, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:10:18 UTC, JNugent wrote: On 09/02/2020 17:33, Mike Collins wrote: On Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:01:08 UTC, JNugent wrote: On 09/02/2020 16:06, Mike Collins wrote: The average UK salary is £36Kpa which means take home around £2K per month of which £500 will be spent to feed a driving habit rather than looking after family. These people need help. £500 a month buys a lot of car-use. It probably refers to more than one car. Are you sure you meant "average UK salary" and not "average UK household income"? I don't know. Why don't you do some research and report the outcome with references. I had already done that but didn't anticipate your rejection of the argument, particularly because average earnings are the stuff of news reports every year. But let's see... www.google.co.uk Enter: uk average pay 2020 ... the same first return as half an hour ago... https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNQ0Irm0nDkHAQvKNhU1823yc_deSg%3A 1581271251897&source=hp&ei=00hAXvCkNIKdlwTBhL64DQ& q=uk+average+pay+2020&oq=&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.35i362i39l10.0.0..4259...2.0..0.0.0.......0 ......gws-wiz.....10.qfk1QLqPO7g Or: https://tinyurl.com/wn8n3ky QUOTE: Employee earnings in the UK: 2019 ... Median weekly earnings for full-time employees reached £585 in April 2019, an increase of 2.9% since April 2018 ... ENDQUOTE Government departments involved with employment prefer to use weekly figures if they can. So... Calculator app... 585 x 52 = 30,420. You snipped a fair bit of my previous post. Here it is in full: QUOTE: £500 a month buys a lot of car-use. It probably refers to more than one car. Are you sure you meant "average UK salary" and not "average UK household income"? Current government stats have average (median) full time earnings at £585 a week (just over £30,000 gross - much less net). Household income will be higher than that. AIH, I don't think I've ever been in the habit of spoending £500 a month in car expenses. Not even including HP repayments. Well, when it did exceed that for quite a while, I was collecting something between £500 and £1,000 a month in travelling (car-use) expenses. I certainly wasn't paying £500 a month out of my own pocket (hardly anything, if anything at all, in fact). But of course, I am not holding out my case as representing the "average" (however defined). ENDQUOTE Happy to help. Do you understand the difference between Gross and Net? Of course. Do you understand the difference between £30,420 a year and "£36Kpa"? |
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On 09/02/2020 19:36, Steve H wrote:
JNugent wrote: AIH, I don't think I've ever been in the habit of spoending £500 a month in car expenses. Not even including HP repayments. Well, when it did exceed that for quite a while, I was collecting something between £500 and £1,000 a month in travelling (car-use) expenses. I certainly wasn't paying £500 a month out of my own pocket (hardly anything, if anything at all, in fact). But of course, I am not holding out my case as representing the "average" (however defined). I've never spent that much on running my own car. Even the Porsche doesn't cost me that much. Mind you, that has done all its depreciation, so there's a big saving. Ironically, the most expensive cars I've had on a monthly basis have been company cars, because the government really doesn't like people having a nice car for business mileage. They'd prefer us all to be hacking up and down in 1lt city cars. Or bloody massive 2-tonne battery filled behemouths. That's part of the reason I declined to have a car provided and used my own at HMRC-approved mileage rates. I had to pay no extra tax. |
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Should cars be classed as drugs?
On Monday, 10 February 2020 02:04:03 UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 09/02/2020 19:35, Mike Collins wrote: On Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:10:18 UTC, JNugent wrote: On 09/02/2020 17:33, Mike Collins wrote: On Sunday, 9 February 2020 17:01:08 UTC, JNugent wrote: On 09/02/2020 16:06, Mike Collins wrote: The average UK salary is £36Kpa which means take home around £2K per month of which £500 will be spent to feed a driving habit rather than looking after family. These people need help. £500 a month buys a lot of car-use. It probably refers to more than one car. Are you sure you meant "average UK salary" and not "average UK household income"? I don't know. Why don't you do some research and report the outcome with references. I had already done that but didn't anticipate your rejection of the argument, particularly because average earnings are the stuff of news reports every year. But let's see... www.google.co.uk Enter: uk average pay 2020 ... the same first return as half an hour ago... https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNQ0Irm0nDkHAQvKNhU1823yc_deSg%3A 1581271251897&source=hp&ei=00hAXvCkNIKdlwTBhL64DQ& q=uk+average+pay+2020&oq=&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.35i362i39l10.0.0..4259...2.0..0.0.0........ 0......gws-wiz.....10.qfk1QLqPO7g Or: https://tinyurl.com/wn8n3ky QUOTE: Employee earnings in the UK: 2019 ... Median weekly earnings for full-time employees reached £585 in April 2019, an increase of 2.9% since April 2018 ... ENDQUOTE Government departments involved with employment prefer to use weekly figures if they can. So... Calculator app... 585 x 52 = 30,420. You snipped a fair bit of my previous post. Here it is in full: QUOTE: £500 a month buys a lot of car-use. It probably refers to more than one car. Are you sure you meant "average UK salary" and not "average UK household income"? Current government stats have average (median) full time earnings at £585 a week (just over £30,000 gross - much less net). Household income will be higher than that. AIH, I don't think I've ever been in the habit of spoending £500 a month in car expenses. Not even including HP repayments. Well, when it did exceed that for quite a while, I was collecting something between £500 and £1,000 a month in travelling (car-use) expenses. I certainly wasn't paying £500 a month out of my own pocket (hardly anything, if anything at all, in fact). But of course, I am not holding out my case as representing the "average" (however defined). ENDQUOTE Happy to help. Do you understand the difference between Gross and Net? Of course. Do you understand the difference between £30,420 a year and "£36Kpa"? Technically K=1024 if that helps. |
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Should cars be classed as drugs?
On Sunday, 9 February 2020 18:52:16 UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 5:49:22 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Simon Mason wrote: On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 4:06:07 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote: The average UK salary is £36Kpa which means take home around £2K per month of which £500 will be spent to feed a driving habit rather than looking after family. These people need help. I cycled to work for 15 years and saved £15000 in that period on fuel alone. Plus the fact that I was super fit for my age. And got to work either **** wet through or stinking of sweat. Most of your time at "work" was spent posting here. I used to be forced to take a break and post, instead of not taking breaks which is what I originally did. And that is why cyclists can take early retirement. Pounders 'think' the world owes them a living. We call one of our neighbour's cats Pounder because she is always looking for a free meal. |
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