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Old March 13th 14, 05:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
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Poor Blackblade of England. He thinks there is no conflicts or issues when bikers ride trails meant for hikers and equestrians . Jeez, I wonder what this report is all about?

“Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:41:19 -0700
Subject: Lake County Record Bee OPINION: Letter to the Editor: Bikes and
hikers Posted: 03/07/2014 1:44 PM
From: Karen Sullivan

http://m.record-bee.com/recordbee/db...true#d isplay

I'd like to add a bit to the conversation about multiple-use trails, a
story to flesh out the concerns and statistics we've been reading
lately in letters to the editor. I'm an avid hiker. I have a sullied
reputation for taking family and friends on hikes that last way longer
than expected. Consequently, I often hike by myself, or, in the past,
with my dog, Kila.

She and I were running our morning route, a 10K multi-use trail, when
I heard a biker behind me on a rise. I looked back and saw a man
heading down hill toward me. He was hefty and going at a fair clip,
but not outrageously fast, and he was a good fifty yards away, with
nothing to obscure the view between us, just short grass all around.

The trail was plenty wide for him to pass, but just to be extra
considerate, and because the terrain made it easy, I turned left and
jogged a couple yards off the trial. Kila was on a leash and she
wasn't vicious, but she was big, and part wolf, so some people were
afraid of her on sight. No one who knew her was, in fact, she kept me
company under the seminar table at school, and had made a number of
visits to elementary school assemblies to introduce herself to the
kids and lick faces. So she moved easily at a loose heel, five or six
feet to my left, ignoring the biker. We paralleled the trail.

I was running with my back to the biker, when he bashed into me from
behind, knocking me to the ground and riding over my right leg. My
inconvenient leg evidently knocked him off balance because the bike
fell over, spilling the him onto the grass.

He stood up, red in the face, and yelling at me! (Maybe I should
mention that dogs on leashes are allowed on this trail.)

I got up and balanced there, foot and toe, listening to this angry man
as he remounted his bike and took off. He was big, and angry, so I was
glad he was gone, but he left me in a pickle.

The force of his weight and speed, focused down through the bike's
wheel, crushed my ankle against my foot at a severe angle. I couldn't
stand on my right foot, or walk on it, and I was three miles from
home.

I bring up this story to illustrate that even given very safe
circumstances a dry, wide trail with excellent traction, plenty of
visual distance, a very moderate grade bikers' speed and force are
still subject to their judgment and skill, and that can make them a
hazard to hikers. If we mix fast bikes and slow hikers here on narrow
trails with short visual distances (and, in places, reduced traction
due to loose dry soil or gravel), what can we expect? And I ask this
as the mother of two avid mountain bikers.

Lake County is producing amazing athletes in diverse sports. Let's do
the work to keep everybody safe. If that means evaluating trails and
developing separate biking and hiking/riding systems, it can only make
our county better for us and more attractive to visitors.”

Blackblade will read this report and get absolutely nothing out of it whatsoever. That is because he is deaf, blind and dumb to any report that runs counter to what he wants to do, namely, to ride his bike on a hiking trail. He thinks that we can all use the trails as we please without any issues or conflicts ever arising.

What does an accident like this prove anyway? It proves there are issues/conflicts which are never going to go away as long as bikers are permitted on trails meant strictly for hikers and equestrians. Bikers are doing one thing on a trail (traversing an obstacle course), hikers are doing another thing on a trail (contemplating nature). How could there not be conflict!

Mountain bikers are barbarians and have no right to be on any trail used by hikers – unless they want to get off their god damn ****ing bikes and walk like everyone else. When they crash and injure themselves, I rejoice! If and when they manage to kill themselves, I say good riddance to bad rubbish! Death to mountain bikers!

“Tread softly! All the earth is holy ground.”
~ Christina Rossetti (Psalm 24),
from "A Later Life: A Double Sonnet of Sonnets"

Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great


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Old March 13th 14, 11:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
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On Thursday, 13 March 2014 05:02:59 UTC, Edward Dolan wrote:
Poor Blackblade of England. He thinks there is no conflicts or issues when
bikers ride trails meant for hikers and equestrians . Jeez, I wonder what this
report is all about?


In the UK bridleways are open to horses, bicycles and pedestrians. The biking community is already entitled to ride on the trails being discussed here.

What is being mooted are new tracks that would therefore take cyclists off the existing trails being used by equestrians. I thought that was your preferred solution ?
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Old March 13th 14, 10:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
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"Blackblade" wrote in message ...

On Thursday, 13 March 2014 05:02:59 UTC, Edward Dolan wrote:
Poor Blackblade of England. He thinks there are no conflicts or issues when
bikers ride trails meant for hikers and equestrians . Jeez, I wonder what this
report is all about?


In the UK bridleways are open to horses, bicycles and pedestrians. The biking community is already entitled to ride on the trails being discussed here.


What is being mooted are new tracks that would therefore take cyclists off the existing trails being used by equestrians. I thought that was your preferred solution ?


I would prefer that equestrians have their own trails separate from hikers, but at least they are both doing the same thing ... appreciating nature. It is cyclists who need to be banned from MY trails as they are doing something different from what equestrians and hikers are doing.

Mountain bikers are barbarians and have no right to be on any trail used by hikers – unless they want to get off their god damn ****ing bikes and walk like everyone else. When they crash and injure themselves, I rejoice! If and when they manage to kill themselves, I say good riddance to bad rubbish! Death to mountain bikers!

“Tread softly! All the earth is holy ground.”
~ Christina Rossetti (Psalm 24),
from "A Later Life: A Double Sonnet of Sonnets"

Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great


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Old March 17th 14, 09:53 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
Blackblade[_2_]
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In the UK bridleways are open to horses, bicycles and
pedestrians.* The biking community is already entitled to ride on the
trails being discussed here.

What is being mooted are new tracks that would therefore take

cyclists off the existing trails being used by equestrians.* I thought that
was your preferred solution ?

I would prefer that equestrians have their own trails separate
from hikers, but at least they are both doing the same thing ... appreciating
nature. It is cyclists who need to be banned from MY trails as they are doing
something different from what equestrians and hikers are doing.


These are not YOUR trails Ed. They are historic rights of way open to all non-motorised traffic and they were instituted for travel.

Do get your facts straight before you wade in and make yourself look foolish.
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Old March 17th 14, 10:50 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:53:15 -0700 (PDT), Blackblade
wrote:

In the UK bridleways are open to horses, bicycles and

pedestrians.* The biking community is already entitled to ride on the
trails being discussed here.

What is being mooted are new tracks that would therefore take

cyclists off the existing trails being used by equestrians.* I thought that
was your preferred solution ?

I would prefer that equestrians have their own trails separate
from hikers, but at least they are both doing the same thing ... appreciating
nature. It is cyclists who need to be banned from MY trails as they are doing
something different from what equestrians and hikers are doing.


These are not YOUR trails Ed. They are historic rights of way open to all non-motorised traffic and they were instituted for travel.

Do get your facts straight before you wade in and make yourself look foolish.


Wade in and make yourself look foolish???

Old Doodles can look foolish with his feet dry :-)
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Cheers,

Miguel
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Old March 18th 14, 03:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
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"Blackblade" wrote in message ...

In the UK bridleways are open to horses, bicycles and

pedestrians. The biking community is already entitled to ride on the
trails being discussed here.

What is being mooted are new tracks that would therefore take

cyclists off the existing trails being used by equestrians. I thought that
was your preferred solution ?


Edward Dolan wrote:

I would prefer that equestrians have their own trails separate
from hikers, but at least they are both doing the same thing ... appreciating
nature. It is cyclists who need to be banned from MY trails as they are doing
something different from what equestrians and hikers are doing.


These are not YOUR trails Ed. They are historic rights of way open to all non-motorised traffic and they were instituted for travel.


I have already explained many times what I mean by MY trails. I am not going to keep going over my terms just because of your refusal to grant me the use of my own words. They mean what I say they mean, not what you think they mean when taken out of a broader context. Literalism is for dumbbells.

Do get your facts straight before you wade in and make yourself look foolish.


It is ever the mark of a loser to keep pouncing on particular words, which have previously been explained in great detail. Review this thread to find out what I am talking about.

Mountain bikers are barbarians and have no right to be on any trail used by hikers – unless they want to get off their god damn ****ing bikes and walk like everyone else. When they crash and injure themselves, I rejoice! If and when they manage to kill themselves, I say good riddance to bad rubbish! Death to mountain bikers!

“Tread softly! All the earth is holy ground.”
~ Christina Rossetti (Psalm 24),
from "A Later Life: A Double Sonnet of Sonnets"

Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great

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Old March 18th 14, 09:23 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc
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"Blackblade" wrote in message ...
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These are not YOUR trails Ed. They are historic rights of way open to all non-motorised traffic and they were instituted for travel.


They are indeed MY trails. Trails were there originally for travel on horseback and it was never imagined that they would some day be infected by wheeled contrivances. Roads were for that. However, trails were increasingly given over to hikers in recent times for the sole purpose of recreation. Travel has nothing to do with trails today.

The sole purpose of trails today is for the purpose of recreation ... enjoying nature in a leisurely fashion by walking. When you add other usages, you destroy what hikers have been doing for the past several generations.That bikers seem not to be able to understand this single usage is why I call them barbarians. They would destroy what is most precious in a world of dwindling natural beauty. What is most precious? The contemplation of that natural beauty which can only be accomplished by moving slowly (walking) in its midst. It is that contemplation of natural beauty which adds to our humanity and makes us better that we would otherwise be.

The natural world relatively untouched by man is a sort of substitute cathedral for many of us. We hikers regard it as holy and not to be trespassed by the hoi polloi, ever sacrilegious like all the heathen. The time for exploiting nature with our mechanical contrivances for mere amusement is long past. The world is too crowded and the natural places are too few and far between. They must be protected and preserved. Hikers cause the least impact on the few remaining natural places. Other usages only destroy what little beauty is left.

Mountain bikers are barbarians and have no right to be on any trail used by hikers – unless they want to get off their god damn ****ing bikes and walk like everyone else. When they crash and injure themselves, I rejoice! If and when they manage to kill themselves, I say good riddance to bad rubbish! Death to mountain bikers!

“Tread softly! All the earth is holy ground.”
~ Christina Rossetti (Psalm 24),
from "A Later Life: A Double Sonnet of Sonnets"

Mountain bikes have wheels. Wheels are for roads.

Trails are for walking. What’s the matter? Can’t walk?

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great


 




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