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Old May 31st 07, 07:59 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
BeeRich
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Hi folks. Taking advantage of this forum's experience...it's helped
me a lot recently...

I'm in the market for a new bike. My old bike:

1992 Ironhorse MT700R
Low geometry
XT grouppo
Original V-brakes (if that is the correct term, not the new cable/pad
Shimano design)
180mm crankset
3 front chainrings, 7 rear chainrings
Replaced brake/shifting as originals broke 2 years ago
Entry level SPD pedals
Lots of great karma

So I'm in the market for a new bike. Some notes:

I love this geometry. It's solid. Other bikes feel like the pitch is
too easy (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_dynamics) and I
might go over the handlebars.
This bike feels solid. I want to replicate that.
I've turned this into a hybrid, with slicker tires, smaller saddle.
No suspension. I do mostly city trail rides, never had an issue with
front suspension, and I rarely do singletrack.
I like the concept of disc brakes. I believe they are standard now.

Any recommendations? I'm looking at some of the carbon hybrids, but
I'm a bit reluctant to go with something too light. I'm 200 pounds,
so I'm a big fish.

Cheers

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Old May 31st 07, 08:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Steve Gravrock
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On 2007-05-31, BeeRich wrote:
Hi folks. Taking advantage of this forum's experience...it's helped
me a lot recently...

I'm in the market for a new bike. My old bike:

1992 Ironhorse MT700R


[snippity]

Any recommendations? I'm looking at some of the carbon hybrids, but
I'm a bit reluctant to go with something too light. I'm 200 pounds,
so I'm a big fish.


What's your budget, and what brands are sold in your area?
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Old May 31st 07, 09:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Chris Nelson
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On May 31, 2:59 pm, BeeRich wrote:
Hi folks. Taking advantage of this forum's experience...it's helped
me a lot recently...

I'm in the market for a new bike. My old bike:

1992 Ironhorse MT700R
Low geometry
XT grouppo
Original V-brakes (if that is the correct term, not the new cable/pad
Shimano design)
180mm crankset
3 front chainrings, 7 rear chainrings
Replaced brake/shifting as originals broke 2 years ago
Entry level SPD pedals
Lots of great karma

So I'm in the market for a new bike. Some notes:

I love this geometry. It's solid. Other bikes feel like the pitch is
too easy (seehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_dynamics) and I
might go over the handlebars.
This bike feels solid. I want to replicate that.
I've turned this into a hybrid, with slicker tires, smaller saddle.
No suspension. I do mostly city trail rides, never had an issue with
front suspension, and I rarely do singletrack.
I like the concept of disc brakes. I believe they are standard now.

Any recommendations? I'm looking at some of the carbon hybrids, but
I'm a bit reluctant to go with something too light. I'm 200 pounds,
so I'm a big fish.

Cheers


What's wrong with the one you have?

Chris

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Old May 31st 07, 11:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Phil, Non-Squid[_4_]
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BeeRich wrote:

XT grouppo


What was the etymology of this term again?

--
Phil


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Old June 1st 07, 05:57 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Steve Gravrock
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On 2007-05-31, Phil, Non-Squid wrote:
BeeRich wrote:

XT grouppo


What was the etymology of this term again?


Presumably it's a corruption of "gruppo", which is what Italians or
people who want to make sure you know they're riding Campagnolo call a
group.
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Old June 1st 07, 06:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
SMS
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BeeRich wrote:

Any recommendations? I'm looking at some of the carbon hybrids, but
I'm a bit reluctant to go with something too light. I'm 200 pounds,
so I'm a big fish.


It's getting really hard to find a 26" wheeled hybrid without
suspension. I've been looking! Even when manufacturers make them, most
shops don't carry them.

Disc brakes are definitely _not_ standard.

Probably the best choice for you is the Marin Novato. See
"http://www.rei.com/product/747552". It's a 26" wheeled "city" bike, as
opposed to the less sturdy 700c wheeled hybrids, but it isn't a mountain
bike with all the unnecessary suspension. It does have disc brakes. You
could put on some more aggressive tires if you ever did want to go
mountain biking.






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Old June 1st 07, 05:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
A Muzi
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BeeRich wrote:
XT grouppo


Phil, Non-Squid wrote:
What was the etymology of this term again?


Steve Gravrock wrote:
Presumably it's a corruption of "gruppo", which is what Italians or
people who want to make sure you know they're riding Campagnolo call a
group.


The ******* 'grouppo' is offensive enough but even 'gruppo' or 'group'
has been overworked until it has no useful meaning.

At one time groups were a standard item as in, "Send some groups with
our frames, 4 Italian, 6 British", meaning a Super Record ensemble
'reduced' with 1046a BB and 1037a pedals. That era ended in the middle
eighties with the influence of DuraAce, Superbe and Look.

The variables have become so multidimensional that no one I know in this
business orders 'groups' now. With or without hubs/wheels, with or
without headset, with or without seatpost, whatever. No longer are 80%
of bike builds with one standard ensemble, as they once indeed were.

Further, except for a few heavily promoted 'display case' new product
introductions, 'groups' are an abstract concept and exist not as a
physical thing in a box but rather as several related line items on an
invoice and usually wrapped as separate items to fill the space in frame
cartons.

The myth is much bigger then the reality, as usual.

p.s. It's been over a hundred years since vehicles has a simple sleeve
bearing for wheels, yet 'axle grease' remains in the vernacular for no
apparent reason.
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Old June 1st 07, 07:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
A Muzi
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BeeRich wrote:
Any recommendations? I'm looking at some of the carbon hybrids, but
I'm a bit reluctant to go with something too light. I'm 200 pounds,
so I'm a big fish.


SMS wrote:
It's getting really hard to find a 26" wheeled hybrid without
suspension. I've been looking! Even when manufacturers make them, most
shops don't carry them.
Disc brakes are definitely _not_ standard.
Probably the best choice for you is the Marin Novato. See
"http://www.rei.com/product/747552". It's a 26" wheeled "city" bike, as
opposed to the less sturdy 700c wheeled hybrids, but it isn't a mountain
bike with all the unnecessary suspension. It does have disc brakes. You
could put on some more aggressive tires if you ever did want to go
mountain biking.


'Hard to find'? Like a Raleigh Venture? About $259. Swapping for a
Michelin 26x1.5 makes it zippier

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Old June 1st 07, 07:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
SMS
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A Muzi wrote:
BeeRich wrote:
Any recommendations? I'm looking at some of the carbon hybrids, but
I'm a bit reluctant to go with something too light. I'm 200 pounds,
so I'm a big fish.


SMS wrote:
It's getting really hard to find a 26" wheeled hybrid without
suspension. I've been looking! Even when manufacturers make them, most
shops don't carry them.
Disc brakes are definitely _not_ standard.
Probably the best choice for you is the Marin Novato. See
"http://www.rei.com/product/747552". It's a 26" wheeled "city" bike,
as opposed to the less sturdy 700c wheeled hybrids, but it isn't a
mountain bike with all the unnecessary suspension. It does have disc
brakes. You could put on some more aggressive tires if you ever did
want to go mountain biking.


'Hard to find'? Like a Raleigh Venture? About $259. Swapping for a
Michelin 26x1.5 makes it zippier


Yeah, actually I saw the Raleigh Venture line last week at a store, and
saw that some models in that line are non-suspension. I especially liked
the adjustable angle, adjustable height, quill stem, and the suspension
seat post, which is really all the suspension most people need for
on-road riding. I was ready to buy one, then I thought I'd check out
craigslist for a little longer. I found a good Univega older
non-suspension bike with a chromoly frame for $25. Needs a little TLC
but it's more what I wanted.

But it sounded like the original poster was looking for something a
little higher end, with disc brakes. Even with the Marin, probably some
mods are needed for a more suitable riding position, such as stem
replacement.
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Old June 1st 07, 11:28 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Michael Press
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In article ,
A Muzi wrote:

p.s. It's been over a hundred years since vehicles has a simple sleeve
bearing for wheels, yet 'axle grease' remains in the vernacular for no
apparent reason.


Pine tar and lard on the conestoga wagons. The axle
ends were conical with the bottom parallel to the
ground. Designed by German settlers of the Conestoga
valley, Lancaster, Pennsylvania in the 1730's.

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Michael Press
 




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