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Quick Release Skewer Locks?
My child unit has taken a road bike to Santa Cruz, after winning a fight
with my son for custody of my wife's old Raleigh Technium. I wanted to get some locking wheel skewers, but the reviews I read for all of them are pretty awful. Easily defeated with simple tools, difficult to get tight enough, and they get loose over time. I recall that there used to be locks that could be added to QR skewers, but the only ones I see available now are from the UK http://quick-caps.com/quick-cap-black-2pack. There's also a set from Sphyke that uses a standard Allen wrench but has a cover that locks on, with a combination lock, to prevent access to the bolt http://www.sphyke.com/products/wheel-anti-theft-locks/setskw/. For now she took along a thick cable to use in conjunction with a U lock. |
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Quick Release Skewer Locks?
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:37:16 -0700, sms
wrote: I wanted to get some locking wheel skewers, but the reviews I read for all of them are pretty awful. Easily defeated with simple tools, difficult to get tight enough, and they get loose over time. In the distant past, I switched from QR axles to solid axles with security nuts. That didn't work too well when the entire bicycle was stolen. The security nuts were also rather expensive. http://www.bicyclebolts.com https://www.fastenright.com/products/security-fasteners/security-nuts These days, thieves have Torx security drivers. My next attempt was to drill and tap the QR heads and insert 4-40 set screws. That worked just fine, until I had to drill one out when it rusted in place. Methinks some wax or grease would have eliminated that problem. However, it wasn't very secure as a pair of channel lock pliers or vise grips be sufficient to steal the wheel. These don't offer much security, but might slow down the casual thief. http://www.fastenerdata.co.uk/fasteners/more-nuts/nuts-a-to-c/12-point.html The best I can suggest is a solid axle, with custom nuts that require a pin drive wrench. Something like these, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Replacement-Flange-Nut-Set-M14/dp/B00AJ6O0F6 https://www.fastenright.com/security-fasteners/2-hole-security-nut/2h06 but using a 3 hole pattern that doesn't work well with a snap ring pliers. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 3/29/2016 9:25 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
snip The best I can suggest is a solid axle, with custom nuts that require a pin drive wrench. Something like these, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Replacement-Flange-Nut-Set-M14/dp/B00AJ6O0F6 https://www.fastenright.com/security-fasteners/2-hole-security-nut/2h06 but using a 3 hole pattern that doesn't work well with a snap ring pliers. The Quick-Caps look like the best solution because they retain the functionality of the quick-release mechanism with the lever still being used. All of the designs with the special wrench have mediocre reviews, being easy to defeat, being difficult to get tight enough to secure the wheel, and tending to loosen over time. The design where you have to lift the bike to a certain angle for the QR levers to unlock, Zefal Lock 'n' Roll are clever but apparently these are also easily defeated with pliers or a magnet. The downside of the Quick-Caps is that they work only with external cam quick-releases. In Santa Cruz they will apparently steal any accessory not locked down. They stole half of a mirror on her old bike. The old bike, now in my garage, looks like it aged 100 years after being in Santa Cruz for four years. |
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how cute....440 in skewers.... XXXkabob !
square link security chain with clearance for a secure lock. http://www.tulsachain.com/asccustomp...FcRehgod1NgI-Q |
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On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 12:44:13 PM UTC-4, wrote:
how cute....440 in skewers.... XXXkabob ! square link security chain with clearance for a secure lock. http://www.tulsachain.com/asccustomp...FcRehgod1NgI-Q like this http://images.wisconsinhistory.org/7...09000237-l.jpg |
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Quick Release Skewer Locks?
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:43:46 -0700, sms
wrote: All of the designs with the special wrench have mediocre reviews, being easy to defeat, being difficult to get tight enough to secure the wheel, and tending to loosen over time. You might get a clue as to why they're becoming loose from the pedals. The left side of the bicycle has LH (left-hand) threads to help reduce the problem. As the axle flexes slightly, the nut tends to rotate around the axle, causing it to loosen. I'm not sure if LH threads will really solve that problem, but it might help. So might two lockwashers. In Santa Cruz they will apparently steal any accessory not locked down. Yep. If you want to see the latest shiny brand new bicycles, just visit the homeless camp or shelter. They stole half of a mirror on her old bike. The old bike, now in my garage, looks like it aged 100 years after being in Santa Cruz for four years. Methinks the salt air might have something to do with the accelerated aging. Rust never sleeps. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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AE6KS -
red Loctite for small fasteners, holds an prevents corrosion. Loc is partly dependent on surface area...yield is proportional to area but not directly.. An equation of sorts exists... but the juncture of M/F thread's should be painted with linseed using a small brush see he http://www.walmart.com/ip/Kids-Craft...-Pack/19613465 salt air corrosion increases with dewpoint water deposits...check your dew point https://www.google.com/#q=noaa+dew+point+map a toolbox with chromed chrome moly tools in a 'closed' container eg my Volvo rusts tools as the dew point passes thru depositing dew, small dew, on tools. Air pure water carryin g air pure salt onto my oil covered tools. Oil floats on water, water evaps leaving salt. aaaRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHH ! so if the bare metals parts are lightly painted with thinned linseed..threads nut surfaces....then maintenance proceeds. Linseed attracts n holds dirt so use age is limited. No linseed at the gin. the other choice is preventing the dew drop...? wax. The wax goes on before the dew. Otherwise calcite rings form on your pebble beach paint job. calcite rings are a huge PITA. |
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On Wednesday, March 30, 2016 at 8:38:00 AM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/30/2016 6:59 AM, wrote: AE6KS - red Loctite for small fasteners, holds an prevents corrosion. Loc is partly dependent on surface area...yield is proportional to area but not directly. An equation of sorts exists... but the juncture of M/F thread's should be painted with linseed using a small brush see he http://www.walmart.com/ip/Kids-Craft...-Pack/19613465 salt air corrosion increases with dewpoint water deposits...check your dew point https://www.google.com/#q=noaa+dew+point+map a toolbox with chromed chrome moly tools in a 'closed' container eg my Volvo rusts tools as the dew point passes thru depositing dew, small dew, on tools. Air pure water carryin g air pure salt onto my oil covered tools. Oil floats on water, water evaps leaving salt. aaaRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHH ! so if the bare metals parts are lightly painted with thinned linseed..threads nut surfaces....then maintenance proceeds. Linseed attracts n holds dirt so use age is limited. No linseed at the gin. the other choice is preventing the dew drop...? wax. The wax goes on before the dew. Otherwise calcite rings form on your pebble beach paint job. calcite rings are a huge PITA. As regards condensation inside bicycles, good practice includes vent holes. No vent he http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfr...ast/bur16c.jpg -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv0 the Volvo stored outside was vented but the dewpoint in salt air deposited water n salt air inside the vehicle. Inside the tool box. But Volvo stored inside garage n vented gets a dew point but dew stays outside on roof n ext. walls. Is the tube in photo painted inside ? As with the new fishing boat, not drilling holes n not painting ID tubing is a real expense reducer. A front edge idea.... hoop snakes. |
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Quick Release Skewer Locks?
On 3/29/2016 6:51 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 29 Mar 2016 09:43:46 -0700, sms wrote: All of the designs with the special wrench have mediocre reviews, being easy to defeat, being difficult to get tight enough to secure the wheel, and tending to loosen over time. You might get a clue as to why they're becoming loose from the pedals. The left side of the bicycle has LH (left-hand) threads to help reduce the problem. As the axle flexes slightly, the nut tends to rotate around the axle, causing it to loosen. I'm not sure if LH threads will really solve that problem, but it might help. So might two lockwashers. With bolt-on wheels you don't have LH threads on the left and they are pretty secure but it's because you're tightening the nuts with a wrench that gives you enough torque to get them very tight. Those skewers that replace the lever with a nut that requires a special wrench are usually using pretty tiny wrenches. The Quick-Cap seems like a very good idea since it preserves the QR lever functionality. |
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