How Much Should "Cycling Allowance" Be?

On 08/08/2011 10:43, Roger Merriman wrote:
Simon wrote:

"Roger wrote in message
...
Just zis Guy, you wrote:

big snips

Tyres, cycling shoes, chains, new cassettes, rims. A fair number of
things that actually do wear out if you do meaningful mileage on a bike,
none of which are free. And of course the cost of the bike itself.

-
Choice of bike and components helps a lot, to take a example lot of the
high milage commutors use race tyres, so they do end up wearing them out
fairly rapidly.

tougher commute/touring tyres will last and last.


Costs vary widely.
My 10-speed cassette which I replaced from a compo payout was 300 quid.

well indeed thats race stuff considering that if your racking up a fair
milage thats a lot to pay out every time you wear out the cassette.

The impression I get there is that £300 is a lot for that particular part of
a bike. Indeed, it must be, since you can get a whole bike for less than its
cost.

There is a danger in thinking in that rates have to be set in terms of
expensive bikes or bike parts. It's analogous to arguing that car mileage
rates should be a lot higher because some people drive Maseratis. The car
rate has to be set at a fair average of the costs of running an everyday car,
not the costs of the minimum spend required to light up the eyes of Jeremy
Clarkson. And with bikes, it's the same (but with MUCH lower mileage costs of
course).

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On 08/08/2011 10:43, Roger Merriman wrote:
Judith wrote:

On Sun, 07 Aug 2011 09:19:05 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

snip


Tyres, cycling shoes, chains, new cassettes, rims. A fair number
of things that actually do wear out if you do meaningful mileage
on a bike, none of which are free. And of course the cost of the
bike itself.




Please explain how anyone (other than a courier) is going to any
significant number of miles on their push-bike whilst on company
business. --


there are all sorts of odd jobs, folks that go to meeting ie
brompton man/woman.

I see commuity nurses inmy line of work, a few of them have bikes so
they probably wrack up a fair milage.

And I am travelling across London by bike, working on a contract. I am
home-based so this is company business mileage.

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JNugent wrote:

On 08/08/2011 10:43, Roger Merriman wrote:
Simon wrote:

"Roger wrote in message
...
Just zis Guy, you wrote:

big snips

Tyres, cycling shoes, chains, new cassettes, rims. A fair number of
things that actually do wear out if you do meaningful mileage on a bike,
none of which are free. And of course the cost of the bike itself.

-
Choice of bike and components helps a lot, to take a example lot of the
high milage commutors use race tyres, so they do end up wearing them out
fairly rapidly.

tougher commute/touring tyres will last and last.


Costs vary widely.
My 10-speed cassette which I replaced from a compo payout was 300 quid.

well indeed thats race stuff considering that if your racking up a fair
milage thats a lot to pay out every time you wear out the cassette.

The impression I get there is that £300 is a lot for that particular part of
a bike. Indeed, it must be, since you can get a whole bike for less than its
cost.

it is indeed! knock a zero off for more normal cassettes.

There is a danger in thinking in that rates have to be set in terms of
expensive bikes or bike parts. It's analogous to arguing that car mileage
rates should be a lot higher because some people drive Maseratis. The car
rate has to be set at a fair average of the costs of running an everyday car,
not the costs of the minimum spend required to light up the eyes of Jeremy
Clarkson. And with bikes, it's the same (but with MUCH lower mileage costs of
course).

Roger.
--
www.rogermerriman.com

On Mon, 08 Aug 2011 19:08:37 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

snip


And I am travelling across London by bike, working on a contract. I am
home-based so this is company business mileage.

Have you left Dell and got a job as a courier now?

Still - it's a good step up; well done.

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"Roger Merriman" wrote in message
...
JNugent wrote:


well indeed thats race stuff considering that if your racking up a fair
milage thats a lot to pay out every time you wear out the cassette.

The impression I get there is that £300 is a lot for that particular part
of
a bike. Indeed, it must be, since you can get a whole bike for less than
its
cost.

it is indeed! knock a zero off for more normal cassettes.

I did say it was paid for out of compo - a driver who knocked me off my bike
paid for it out of his insurance.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

Simon Mason wrote:

"Roger Merriman" wrote in message
...
JNugent wrote:


well indeed thats race stuff considering that if your racking up a fair
milage thats a lot to pay out every time you wear out the cassette.

The impression I get there is that £300 is a lot for that particular part
of
a bike. Indeed, it must be, since you can get a whole bike for less than
its
cost.

it is indeed! knock a zero off for more normal cassettes.

I did say it was paid for out of compo - a driver who knocked me off my bike
paid for it out of his insurance.

true though you must of paid for it for the first one.

Roger
--
www.rogermerriman.com

"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote in message
news:ZTr%p.102502
Tyres, cycling shoes, chains, new cassettes, rims. A fair number of
things that actually do wear out if you do meaningful mileage on a bike,
none of which are free. And of course the cost of the bike itself.


A local Council gets in on the act, but on the Cyclescheme.

http://www.buxtonadvertiser.co.uk/ne...ikes_1_3659978

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Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

"Roger Merriman" wrote in message
...


it is indeed! knock a zero off for more normal cassettes.

I did say it was paid for out of compo - a driver who knocked me off my
bike
paid for it out of his insurance.

true though you must have paid for it for the first one.


No, I had a pair of Fulcrum Racing 1's with a 10 speed Chorus cassette which
I upgraded to Campagnolo Shamal Ultra wheels with a 10 speed Ti Campag
Record cassette. The insurance company did not check up on anything other
than my sunglasses for some reason.

--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/

On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:47:33 +0100, (Roger Merriman) wrote:

Simon Mason wrote:

"Roger Merriman" wrote in message
...
JNugent wrote:


well indeed thats race stuff considering that if your racking up a fair
milage thats a lot to pay out every time you wear out the cassette.

The impression I get there is that £300 is a lot for that particular part
of
a bike. Indeed, it must be, since you can get a whole bike for less than
its
cost.

it is indeed! knock a zero off for more normal cassettes.

I did say it was paid for out of compo - a driver who knocked me off my bike
paid for it out of his insurance.

true though you must of paid for it for the first one.

Roger


Unless of course he lied about the fact that he had one and it was broken in
the incident?

(He will probably tell us now that he didn't actually have one prior to the
incident - he is quite Simple))
--
Simple Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

On 09/08/2011 16:16, Simon Mason wrote:

"Roger Merriman" wrote in message
...
JNugent wrote:


well indeed thats race stuff considering that if your racking up a
fair
milage thats a lot to pay out every time you wear out the cassette.

The impression I get there is that £300 is a lot for that particular
part of
a bike. Indeed, it must be, since you can get a whole bike for less
than its
cost.

it is indeed! knock a zero off for more normal cassettes.

I did say it was paid for out of compo - a driver who knocked me off my
bike paid for it out of his insurance.

Was that his fridge freezer insurance?


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legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University