How ironic! Riot killing by motorist using a car-weapon!

Doug wrote:
On Aug 10, 5:39 pm, NotMe wrote:
On Aug 10, 5:33 pm, "Doug" wrote:

Doesn't this say something about where the real risks and dangers
really lie?

"Three killed in crash on night of Birmingham riots

I thought you were in favour of anarchy and violent protest.

Which sort of anarchy are you referring to? You thought wrong of
course, as usual, because it was a riot not a protest.

Don't try to nuance it. What you're seeing on the streets is anarchy, and
is the inevitable result of any type of anarchy. If there are different
types, which I doubt, they don't differ one iota in that respect.

What is particularly interesting here is that despite all that
'violence' by rioters, all it takes is just one motorist with a car-
weapon to actually kill people. The question must be, why are
mindless/ brainless drivers allowed to openly possess such lethal
weapons on our streets?

You're right, Doug. There ought to be a law against mowing people down.

On 10/08/2011 19:05, Norman Wells wrote:

Doug wrote:
NotMe wrote:
"Doug" wrote:

Doesn't this say something about where the real risks and dangers
really lie?
"Three killed in crash on night of Birmingham riots

I thought you were in favour of anarchy and violent protest.

Which sort of anarchy are you referring to? You thought wrong of
course, as usual, because it was a riot not a protest.

Don't try to nuance it. What you're seeing on the streets is anarchy, and is
the inevitable result of any type of anarchy. If there are different types,
which I doubt, they don't differ one iota in that respect.

There must be at least two types, surely?

What is particularly interesting here is that despite all that
'violence' by rioters, all it takes is just one motorist with a car-
weapon to actually kill people. The question must be, why are
mindless/ brainless drivers allowed to openly possess such lethal
weapons on our streets?

You're right, Doug. There ought to be a law against mowing people down.

A glaring loophole in the legal landscape of the UK, clearly.

On Aug 10, 7:05*pm, "Norman Wells" wrote:

snip*What you're seeing on the streets is anarchy, and
is the inevitable result of any type of anarchy. *If there are different
types, which I doubt, they don't differ one iota in that respect.

there are more types of anarchist than types of archist
there is consequently no predictability to the individuals or to their
actions.
but you don't know the difference do you ?
I won't go into the technicalities of any intricate philosophy
but will attempt to outline the distinction between those who are and
are not anarchist:

the most succinct differences would rest upon a definition of the
state
the most common is that of a body which claims the legitimate use of
force
archists by definition demand and defend the use of force even
considering it legitimate
anarchists have no such commitment by definition of being anarchists
anarchists therefore have a tendency towards non violence
archists have a mutual consent to violence and have contracted in
favour of violent resolutions to most civil problems

as with most people the most violent thing I have ever done is drive a
car ..... although I did once get pretty angry at a cotter pin once

On Aug 10, 7:37*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 10/08/2011 19:05, Norman Wells wrote:

Doug wrote:
NotMe wrote:
"Doug" wrote:
Doesn't this say something about where the real risks and dangers
really lie?
"Three killed in crash on night of Birmingham riots
I thought you were in favour of anarchy and violent protest.
Which sort of anarchy are you referring to? You thought wrong of
course, as usual, because it was a riot not a protest.
Don't try to nuance it. What you're seeing on the streets is anarchy, and is
the inevitable result of any type of anarchy. If there are different types,
which I doubt, they don't differ one iota in that respect.

There must be at least two types, surely?

And two places. The riots and protests have included Lewisham and I
presume Catford. Whilst the riots are in central London, Brighton and
other places that don't matter, Doug will support them. If they move
to Lewisham then it is a different matter because they threaten Dougs
mate, poor Mr Bollen in his home in Catford. We can't have that. Lets
tell the protesters to go to Brighton where Doug supports rioting.


What is particularly interesting here is that despite all that
'violence' by rioters, all it takes is just one motorist with a car-
weapon to actually kill people. The question must be, why are
mindless/ brainless drivers allowed to openly possess such lethal
weapons on our streets?
You're right, Doug. There ought to be a law against mowing people down.

A glaring loophole in the legal landscape of the UK, clearly.

On 10/08/2011 19:56, NotMe wrote:

And two places. The riots and protests have included Lewisham and I
presume Catford. Whilst the riots are in central London, Brighton and
other places that don't matter, Doug will support them. If they move
to Lewisham then it is a different matter because they threaten Dougs
mate, poor Mr Bollen in his home in Catford. We can't have that. Lets
tell the protesters to go to Brighton where Doug supports rioting.

Let's not, at least until after the weekend.

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On 10/08/2011 17:33, Doug wrote:

1. this is completely OT (for a cycling group), so why not say so, or at
least NOT cross-post

2. Where's the irony? I don't see anything ironic. Just wanton
law-breaking. Please explain.

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On 10/08/2011 19:44, riding wrote:
On Aug 10, 7:05 pm, "Norman Wells" wrote:

snip What you're seeing on the streets is anarchy, and is the
inevitable result of any type of anarchy. If there are different
types, which I doubt, they don't differ one iota in that respect.

there are more types of anarchist than types of archist

That's kind of implicit in the term, I reckon. So, yes. If anarchists
all thought alike then they'd not be anarchists as such, after all.

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On 10/08/2011 19:56, NotMe wrote:
The riots and protests have included Lewisham and I presume Catford.

According to a friend who lives in the area, yes. But much less violent
than Tottenham, more of a mob than a riot really.

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On 10/08/2011 20:28, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
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On 10/08/2011 19:56, NotMe wrote:
The riots and protests have included Lewisham and I presume Catford.

According to a friend who lives in the area, yes. But much less violent
than Tottenham, more of a mob than a riot really.

Sounds rather like a description of Critical Mass, then?

"Doug" wrote in message
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On Aug 10, 5:39 pm, NotMe wrote:
On Aug 10, 5:33 pm, "Doug" wrote:

Doesn't this say something about where the real risks and dangers really
lie?

"Three killed in crash on night of Birmingham riots

I thought you were in favour of anarchy and violent protest.


Which sort of anarchy are you referring to? You thought wrong of
course, as usual, because it was a riot not a protest.

So if they just want to rob shops it is a riot, but if they just want to
trash ones they disapprove of on political / ethical grounds it is a
protest? Get real.

What is particularly interesting here is that despite all that
'violence' by rioters, all it takes is just one motorist with a car-
weapon to actually kill people.

Plenty of serious injuries and we have been quite lucky many people have not
burned to death.


The question must be, why are mindless/
brainless drivers allowed to openly possess such lethal weapons on our
streets?

You are having a bad day Doug - you missed that the car was on the pavement.
One might suspect that the car was stolen and the driver likely disqualified
/ unlicensed, but we shall see...