Marco Pantani: The Legend of a Tragic Champion

Marco Pantani: The Legend Of A Tragic Champion
By John Wilcockson & Graham Watson

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Marco Pantani won the Tour de France and Giro d'Italia in the same year,
1998, a feat previously achieved only by giants of the sport like Eddy
Merckx, Fausto Coppi, and Miguel Indurain. The master cyclist was also a
victim of the drug culture of pro cycling, eventually sinking into a deep
depression and dying alone in a hotel room on Valentine's Day 2004. This
book chronicles the highs and lows of Pantani's life and cycling career
through the words of leading American and European sportswriters, and it
includes candid color shots of Pantani in action by renowned sports
photographer Graham Watson.



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Marco Pantani won the Tour de France and Giro d'Italia in the same year,
1998,

are there pics, in the book, of the juice that made this possible?

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 19:02:58 GMT, Callistus Valerius wrote:
are there pics, in the book, of the juice that made this possible?

All pages are as white as the snow on the mountains on which he shone,
the snow that made him happy one last time, and the bright star on which
he rests now.


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"Callistus Valerius" schreef in bericht
ink.net...
Marco Pantani won the Tour de France and Giro d'Italia in the same year,
1998,

are there pics, in the book, of the juice that made this possible?



I don't get it. They all used EPO then (and still do perhaps), and I don't
see what makes Pantani fundamentally worse than any other. There's no
indication that he was a negative exception. I mean, Voet told that Virenque
was interested in anything that could give him an advantage, while the
impression I get about Pantani is that he used doping because it was in a
sense obligatory. Without EPO, we'd never have seen Pantani's talent.

Somehow I think some people just don't want to see how good Pantani actually
was, and think they can belittle his achievements by always mentioning the
doping. That doesn't seem fair; it's as if different standards are used when
someone is personally disliked (can't see why though; Pantani always struck
me as being a humble and friendly person, quite different from many other
riders).

http://www.guidobelcanto.be/videopantani.htm


The full TV program where the Flemish singer/travestite (and good cyclist
himself - although not in drag) Guido Belcanto tries to meet his idol
Pantani.

The overrated presentator has some rather lame and easy humor (among which a
Reservoir Dogs scene with Dave Bruylandts). But once on its way, with the
likeable Belcanto, it's rather OK.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:10:44 +0100, Van Hoorebeeck Bart wrote:
http://www.guidobelcanto.be/videopantani.htm

Thanks. Direct link: http://www.guidobelcanto.be/robguidopantani2.wmv
(33 MB, 320x240, 0:44:18).

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Forget it, it's like talking to a brick wall. I'd expect some crap
like this elsewhere but here you'd think it might be different.

It's not even a matter of which parts are true or not but rather that
one would expect a little more respect for what may be the greatest
climber in the history of the sport. He clearly had mental health and
substance abuse problems which lead to his death.

Crapping on a dead guy who could stomp your ass with one leg chopped
off in a sport you claim to love makes you an asshole.

That line is long here.

Musashi


On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:02:52 +0100, "Jonathan v.d. Sluis"
wrote:

"Callistus Valerius" schreef in bericht
link.net...
Marco Pantani won the Tour de France and Giro d'Italia in the same year,
1998,

are there pics, in the book, of the juice that made this possible?



I don't get it. They all used EPO then (and still do perhaps), and I don't
see what makes Pantani fundamentally worse than any other. There's no
indication that he was a negative exception. I mean, Voet told that Virenque
was interested in anything that could give him an advantage, while the
impression I get about Pantani is that he used doping because it was in a
sense obligatory. Without EPO, we'd never have seen Pantani's talent.

Somehow I think some people just don't want to see how good Pantani actually
was, and think they can belittle his achievements by always mentioning the
doping. That doesn't seem fair; it's as if different standards are used when
someone is personally disliked (can't see why though; Pantani always struck
me as being a humble and friendly person, quite different from many other
riders).

In article ,
musashi wrote:

Forget it, it's like talking to a brick wall. I'd expect some crap
like this elsewhere but here you'd think it might be different.

It's not even a matter of which parts are true or not but rather that
one would expect a little more respect for what may be the greatest
climber in the history of the sport. He clearly had mental health and
substance abuse problems which lead to his death.

Crapping on a dead guy who could stomp your ass with one leg chopped
off in a sport you claim to love makes you an asshole.

That line is long here.

Musashi

I hope you're referring to Callista Flackhart here, and not Jonathan.

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:02:52 +0100, "Jonathan v.d. Sluis"
wrote:

"Callistus Valerius" schreef in bericht
link.net...
Marco Pantani won the Tour de France and Giro d'Italia in the same year,
1998,

are there pics, in the book, of the juice that made this possible?



I don't get it. They all used EPO then (and still do perhaps), and I don't
see what makes Pantani fundamentally worse than any other. There's no
indication that he was a negative exception. I mean, Voet told that Virenque
was interested in anything that could give him an advantage, while the
impression I get about Pantani is that he used doping because it was in a
sense obligatory. Without EPO, we'd never have seen Pantani's talent.

Somehow I think some people just don't want to see how good Pantani actually
was, and think they can belittle his achievements by always mentioning the
doping. That doesn't seem fair; it's as if different standards are used when
someone is personally disliked (can't see why though; Pantani always struck
me as being a humble and friendly person, quite different from many other
riders).

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On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 18:34:58 -0800, Howard Kveck
wrote:

In article ,
musashi wrote:

Forget it, it's like talking to a brick wall. I'd expect some crap
like this elsewhere but here you'd think it might be different.

It's not even a matter of which parts are true or not but rather that
one would expect a little more respect for what may be the greatest
climber in the history of the sport. He clearly had mental health and
substance abuse problems which lead to his death.

Crapping on a dead guy who could stomp your ass with one leg chopped
off in a sport you claim to love makes you an asshole.

That line is long here.

Musashi

I hope you're referring to Callista Flackhart here, and not Jonathan.



Of course I wasn't referring to Jonathan.

The "you" was referring to those, in general, who rag on Pantani so
disrespectfully. And Jonathan would not be in that group.

Musashi

musashi wrote:

Of course I wasn't referring to Jonathan.

The "you" was referring to those, in general, who rag on Pantani so
disrespectfully. And Jonathan would not be in that group.

Musashi



Dumbass -

What's disrespectful about ragging on a coke addict who would not stop
until it killed him?

That sort of behavior should be discouraged, not celebrated.

BTW, I'd guess that Musashi, were he alive today, wouldn't be too
thrilled about who's taken on his name.
take care and have a nice day,

K. Gringioni.