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Old April 8th 07, 01:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
Matthew T. Russotto
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Tim McNamara wrote:

despair). I think cooperative housing is a better notion than
traditional apartment buildings. Personal investment and some type of
ownership of one's home encourage pro-social behavior.


The problem is that "pro-social behavior" ends up being defined as
"behaving as the tinpot dictators on the co-op board want you to
behave".
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Old April 8th 07, 01:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:

Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2 billion on
our own nation?


Be happy about that -- do you really want even 2% of the **** that's
going on in Iraq?

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Old April 8th 07, 03:27 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2 billion
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our own nation?

Our own nation is not New Orleans,


New Oreans IS part of the United States.

we already sunk millions into that place,
most of the people there are not willing to even help themselves.

Most of the people there CANNOT help themselves - the System has made sure
of that -- and Continues to make sure of that.


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Old April 8th 07, 03:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:

Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2 billion

on
our own nation?


Be happy about that -- do you really want even 2% of the **** that's
going on in Iraq?

I want us OUT of Iraq, and building our OWN country.


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Old April 8th 07, 07:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Apr 6, 11:14 pm, "Amy Blankenship"
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donquijote1954 wrote:


You even find them in the environmental movement, feeding the hungry
children in Timbuktu and in the promotion of democracy for Iraq...


For example:


(this is serious)


'For the Bush administration, democracy promotion is not just a "made
in the U.S." venture, but a goal shared with many other countries. We
also seek to broaden our partnerships with local and global
nongovernmental organizations and international organizations, so that
we can work together on democracy promotion, advancement of human
rights, and humanitarian relief.'


No ****. Bush seems to think he can blow smoke up everybodies ass.
Other countries share the goal of not having to listen to American B.S.
We have no REAL partnerships because they will **** on us and change sides
as soon as it is to their advantage. 'Partner' is a word that is way
overused in business. Your 'partner' can switch overnight and put you out
of business. China is not a partner or friend but they love our money.
Democracy promotion is reserved for those with oil for us.
Advancement of human rights is just politician rhetoric.
Humanitarian relief means sending our money to a country that does not
appreciate it, all for a news byte, and while ignoring the problems at
home, like New Orleans, the homeless in OUR country, etc.


I get really tired of people talking about New Orleans like it's some sort
of failure of national policy. The problem in NO is local leadership and
the helpless mentality of the New Orleans residents who get media attention.
Mississippi had it worse if anything (whole towns here were completely wiped
off the map), but you don't hear people referring to us as a symptom of some
sort of national malaise. And the reason why is that our leadership made
the decision that we would pick ourselves up by our bootstraps and get back
to work, whether or not there was any aid at the federal level. New Orleans
chose a different path--even worse, they chose to keep the mayor who'd
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What I found the most fascinating about New Orleans was the fact that
Houston accepted so many people, so quickly, and had emergency plans
in place to handle a hurricane. Then I found out that the all of
those plans and "stuff" were in place to handle the evacuation of
Galveston and was done by, and paid for, by Galveston. I kept
thinking how wonderful it was that Galveston would "share", but I also
kept thinking "man, I hope Galveston doesn't get hit by a hurricane
and need the stuff".

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Old April 8th 07, 01:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2007 19:28:46 -0700, "Baxter"
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In article ,
Baxter wrote:

Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2 billion

on
our own nation?


Be happy about that -- do you really want even 2% of the **** that's
going on in Iraq?

I want us OUT of Iraq, and building our OWN country.

After instituting regime change, the US took on a responsibility to
all those in Iraq who tried to make it work. While I am dubious about
the invasion and the reasoning behind it, it would be insane to leave
things open to something even worse than Sadaam for the people of
Iraq. It also would signal that it is not safe to ally with the
United States and that resisting them passively is safer.

Sadaam may well have had weapons of mass destruction or thought he had
but because Bush, Rumsfield and Cheney believed in invasion on the
budget plan and allowed looting of the ministries we will never know.
Rumsfield is Bush's Macnamara, another management droid who dismisses
the idea that the military might know something about war.
  #807  
Old April 8th 07, 03:14 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
Amy Blankenship
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"di" wrote in message
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"Baxter" wrote in message
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Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2
billion
on
our own nation?

Our own nation is not New Orleans,


New Oreans IS part of the United States.

we already sunk millions into that place,
most of the people there are not willing to even help themselves.

Most of the people there CANNOT help themselves - the System has made sure
of that -- and Continues to make sure of that.


So you're saying that the democratic process that would have allowed them to
elect a more helpful mayor was rigged?


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Old April 8th 07, 04:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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"di" wrote in message
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"Baxter" wrote in message
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Why is it we can spend $100 Billion on building Iraq, but not $2
billion
on
our own nation?

Our own nation is not New Orleans,


New Oreans IS part of the United States.

we already sunk millions into that place,
most of the people there are not willing to even help themselves.

Most of the people there CANNOT help themselves - the System has made sure
of that -- and Continues to make sure of that.


This is a good example of the liberal mentality, after all these years they
still think they can pick up a turd by the clean end. Any person or group
can help inprove their own status, it takes a little ambition, a little
patience, and a lot of work, 3 things that are missing in places like New
Orleans. The "system" you are referring to is the very system you are
promoting. You think the solution to any problem is to throw more money at
it, especially someone else's money.




  #809  
Old April 8th 07, 07:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
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Default in the fallout after the revolution

--In the fallout after the Revolution, do you think SUV's bicycles,
and Choppers will all get along? Are you privy to the new contract?
And do you have any idea regarding timing of this Revolution
project?--

I think in the fallout after the revolution, all vehicles will get
along, just not the Darwinian laws that now prevail on our roads and
in many other areas of life. There's a little republic not very far
away from America where vehicles sort of get along: the Conch
Republic. Yes, Key West has a sizeable cyclist population, and you see
its inhabitants riding their bikes in a carefree manner, though still
you see some of the old dinosaurs roaming around, mostly SUVs coming
from Miami...

It may be Darwinian in other senses like walled communities, but you
can walk around and bike around quite free and safe. You even see EVs
driving around announcing a better future. Of course, further
insurance of civilized behavior by wild SUVs can be brought about by a
SPECIAL TRUCK LICENSE (they are trucks, right?) and HIGHER GAS PRICES,
which will reduce their numbers to the category of endangered species.

About the timing of the revolution, according to ancient texts found
in the pyramids (where the first lions were buried) the end of the big
predators will be in the year 2008, which adds to 10 for a perfect
decimal calendar.

PS: I forgot to tell there's many choppers in Key West.

Here's the story found with such calendar...

VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE...

(Notice the picture of the "Sphinx," which designates a type of statue
joining a human head to the body of a lion and symbolizes sovereignty
combining the strength of the lion with a human intelligence, used to
represent royal power. Perhaps Egypt has the most notorious monuments
to self-aggrandizing and stupidity: the pyramids. All the resources
precious to the people went to feed the ego of the lions --in death.
It's also a trait of the lion that knowledge is kept for an elite.
"Knowledge is power," so the saying goes...)

Freedom in World History
http://www.hermes-press.com/history1.htm

  #810  
Old April 8th 07, 07:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.misc,rec.autos.driving,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.rides
donquijote1954
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Default Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006

Talking about a Darwinian world, here's one of the oil kings making a
gargantuan sum of money...

Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Occidental Petroleum Corp.'s chairman and chief
executive took in more than $400 million in compensation last year,
the company said in a filing, one of the biggest single-year payouts
in U.S. corporate history.

http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/070407/occid..._pay.html?.v=8

But, see, bicycles only make peanuts for them.

 




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