Should Cyclists Pack Guns?

Where in the above law do you find the phrase 'motor vehicle'
? I can't seem to find it there.


No. 1 for instance and all the way through.

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SO..... blow it out your ass pal

Pedal-pushing faggot.



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On 01 May 2007 16:15:57 GMT, Chris wrote:

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On 01 May 2007 13:17:28 GMT, Chris wrote:

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On 01 May 2007 12:55:24 GMT, Chris wrote:


(2) Whenever the department of transportation or local authorities
within their respective jurisdictions determine, on the basis of
an
engineering and traffic investigation as described in the state
traffic control manual, that slow speeds on any part of a highway
consistently impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic,
said department or such local authority may determine and declare
a
minimum speed limit below which no person shall drive a vehicle,
except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with
law.

(4) Wherever special uphill traffic lanes or roadside turnouts are
provided and posted, drivers of all vehicles proceeding at less
than
the normal and reasonable speed of traffic shall use such lanes or
turnouts to allow other vehicles to pass or maintain normal
traffic
flow.

(5) Any person who violates any provision of this section commits
a
class A traffic infraction.


Are bicycles a motor vehicle?

Where in the above law do you find the phrase 'motor vehicle'
? I can't seem to find it there.


You are wrong motor head, bicycles have as much (actually more) right-
of-way to the road as any car. Ask a cop, or better yet, the judge at
your sentencing when you hit a cyclist

Bwahahahaha !!!!!!



You can cherry pick the law all you want, but bicyclist do have a right
to the road, and motorist must pass safely


SO..... blow it out your ass pal

Pedal-pushing faggot.


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On May 1, 1:23 pm, wrote:
Pedal-pushing faggot.
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Excellent show of both your point and intelligence. Did you get off
the couch to post that, or just use a wireless keyboard?

I still see nothing in the the regs you posted that would prohibit a
bicyclist from riding in the road. This doesn't mean I ride in the
middle of the lane when I ride, just that your post is irrelevant.

On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote:
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954
wrote:

I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't
Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't
we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to
launch a good nonviolent campaign?

I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a
little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia
Tech campus?

And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being
able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure
there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think
you made some point or another.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack
job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the
constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K.
where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like
those at the campus on Monday.

Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to
carry around on my rides.

Ken- Hide quoted text -

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Hi! I just read a couple of the items here...but I am a cyclist who
packs. I have a 38 revolver that fits right into a fanny pack that I
wear when I ride. I am a female and ride in rural areas by myself
(haven't found a riding partner yet!) and I will not be a woman who
goes out for a ride or a run and not come back. I am not concerned
with time or the extra weight that the gun adds. I would rather be
safe than sorry.
BUT....As I agree that I have the right to carry a gun, I don't agree
with owning the crazy machine guns, we don't need them, hunters don't
need them; the sole purpose is to kill. I do agree that it is too
easy to get guns in the US, and there are too many out there.
Thanks,
Evelyn Ziennker-Lee
Virginia

On Apr 26, 7:04 am, David Steuber wrote:
If you don't mind, I'll kibitz a bit. If you do mind, go to the next
post now.

(Brent P) writes:
I'll describe the worst ones to you.

1) At a traffic light, I have taken
the lane and am in lead spot in the right lane. (I got there first) A
dodge neon is the next lane. Light turns green, I get off to a good
start and leave the neon sitting there. The taurus driver behind me uses
the gap I've created to pass the neon and move in the left lane.
Passenger throws a bottle at me, hitting me. I've had several objects
thrown at me from passing vehicles, but this is the only one that hit
me.

I've had **** thrown at me as well. Nothing injured me though,
fortunately. However, once the vehicle has passed you, shooting at it
would be revenge, not self defense. So you would be the one the cops
are putting in cuffs.

Sure. But then in court you may be able to get away with it by citing
how Bush went into Iraq as a form of pre-emptive strike. If in doubt,
shoot!

and how could I forget the 'drive car' guy. This asian guy decides that
it's just wrong that I am ahead of him in a backup and preventing him
from kissing the bumper of the vehicle in front me. He start making
threats, nearly hits me in a passing attempt. I good 'I am not going to
take this sh*t and hold my ground' posture, worked momentarily, but
then he started it up again so I ended up gutter passing to get away
from him.

Keep in mind that a car is a more deadly weapon than a gun.

And more difficult to prove that it was used as a weapon. I read
somewhere, that the perfect crime may be committed with a vehicle.

If it made people behave it might just be worth it to me.

Heinlein did say, "an armed society is a polite society." I believe
that to be true. In general. But I don't see using a gun to settle
trivial disputes as a practical use. I would rather save that level
of force for someone coming after me with a weapon or other
overwhelming physical force.

Surviving a charging car may be trivial to the car, but survival to
the bike.

Of course, the whole argument is absurd, since it should be bike
facilities, and and/or an education campaign that takes the heat off
you handing out justice.

On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote:
Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack
job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the
constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K.
where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like
those at the campus on Monday.

It absolutely does not need to be "re thought". It chafes already that "the
right to bear arms shall not be infringed" somehow came to mean "you can
keep small arms if you don't overly frighten your neighbors".

On 1 May 2007 11:53:51 -0700, evelyn wrote:

On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote:
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On 19 Apr 2007 08:34:20 -0700, donquijote1954
wrote:

I guess we cyclists are too pacific for that (or just that we aren't
Republicans), but in light of all that violence out there, shouldn't
we rethink our strategy (everyone to himself) and get together to
launch a good nonviolent campaign?

I don't expect 'normal' from you, but don't you find this just a
little bit tasteless considering what just happened on the Virginia
Tech campus?

And using 'Republicans' must be your way to compensate for not being
able to actually make a complete, cogent thought on your own. I'm sure
there are some reflexive 'thinkers' such as yourself that will think
you made some point or another.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack
job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the
constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K.
where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like
those at the campus on Monday.

Now as to cyclists packing heat, thats just extra weight I don't want to
carry around on my rides.

Ken- Hide quoted text -

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Hi! I just read a couple of the items here...but I am a cyclist who
packs. I have a 38 revolver that fits right into a fanny pack that I
wear when I ride. I am a female and ride in rural areas by myself
(haven't found a riding partner yet!) and I will not be a woman who
goes out for a ride or a run and not come back.

Rock on !

I am not concerned
with time or the extra weight that the gun adds. I would rather be
safe than sorry.

Think of it as a weight on a training belt - people pay good
money for that stuff ! :-)


BUT....As I agree that I have the right to carry a gun, I don't agree
with owning the crazy machine guns, we don't need them, hunters don't
need them; the sole purpose is to kill. I do agree that it is too
easy to get guns in the US, and there are too many out there.
Thanks,
Evelyn Ziennker-Lee
Virginia

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On Tue, 1 May 2007 14:26:31 -0500, "Mike Young"
wrote:

On Apr 19, 11:51 am, Just A User wrote:
Upon mentioning VA Tech, I have to put in my two cents, Cho was a wack
job, but personally I think the right to bear arm part of the
constitution needs to be re thought. In countries, such as the U.K.
where gun control laws are very strict, they don't have incidents like
those at the campus on Monday.

Yes, in fact, they do.


It absolutely does not need to be "re thought". It chafes already that "the
right to bear arms shall not be infringed" somehow came to mean "you can
keep small arms if you don't overly frighten your neighbors".


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Hi! I just read a couple of the items here...but I am a cyclist who
packs. I have a 38 revolver that fits right into a fanny pack that I
wear when I ride. I am a female and ride in rural areas by myself
(haven't found a riding partner yet!) and I will not be a woman who
goes out for a ride or a run and not come back. I am not concerned
with time or the extra weight that the gun adds. I would rather be
safe than sorry.
BUT....As I agree that I have the right to carry a gun, I don't agree
with owning the crazy machine guns, we don't need them, hunters don't
need them; the sole purpose is to kill.

Uh,the Second Amendment is not about hunting or sporting.It's about having
the means to "alter or to abolish" a government gone bad,as it states in
the Declaration of Independence. It's not about "need",either.Government
does not get to determine what law abiding citizens "need" or don't need.

And sometimes,it's necessary to kill a bad guy.
(and why do YOU carry a gun then?)

Are you aware that to legally OWN a machine gun,one must have a REGISTERED
MG,and be background checked,fingerprinted,pay a $200 Federal tax,and get
the approval of a local law enforcement official(LEO)? And in some
states,you STILL can't own a full-auto weapon.
The number of legal registered MGs is FIXED,and one cannot buy NEW full-
auto firearms since 1968.(excluding government and LEOs)

Also,only ONE legally owned,registered machine gun has been criminally used
since the 1934 NFA was enacted.

However lots of people DO own full-auto firearms,and shoot them for
sport.They are VERY expensive because of the limited supply of *registered*
weapons.
Any time you see or read about machine guns being used in crimes,they are
not LEGALLY OWNED,and were likely smuggled into the US,or illegal
conversions of legal semi-auto guns.

BTW,the Federal Gov't is missing over 600 of their guns,some machine guns.
Orlando police had two MG's stolen from a unmarked patrol car,one a
silenced machine pistol.Other PDs are missing/"lost" some of their guns.
One year,it was found that 40% of guns recovered from crimes in DC were
missing from the DC police EVIDENCE LOCKER.Police were illegally selling
guns from the evidence lockers.


I do agree that it is too
easy to get guns in the US, and there are too many out there.
Thanks,
Evelyn Ziennker-Lee
Virginia



I hope you have the proper carry permit for legal concealed carry.
Otherwise,you also are a criminal.

IIRC,open carry is legal in VA.
That means you could legally carry it in a *visible* holster,but not IN a
fanny pack.

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