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Should Cyclists Pack Guns?
"Wayne Pein" wrote in message ... Mike Young wrote: "Wayne Pein" wrote in message ... Mike Young wrote: By law in IL, bicyclists are entitled to the full width of the traffic lane. Most of the time, especially in the city, they tend to hug the curb side of the curb lane, allowing motorized traffic to go by. How thoughtful of them. I don't suppose bicyclists get any credit in your accounting scheme for that? I'm one of them, or at least, was until I moved to the 'burbs. Credit? For what? Sharing the road? Keep your award, Sonny. Hey Boy, "Sharing" by your and other's definition seems to mean, "Bicyclists stay right in the lane so motorists can pass." So, how do *motorists* share in this scheme? See below. Of course, you should know that there is no advantage to riding near the side of the road, only disadvantages like poor sight lines, less conspicuity, and motorists trying to squeeze by when its unsafe to do so. Sure. All that. And trash, gravel, leaves, and car doors, too. I'm happier there. Motorists don't have to squeeze by. It's better this way; safer this way. But you already know all that, and can't be told anything. No it's not safer. Perhaps you should examine bicyclist collision causality. I'm glad you are happier in the trash, gravel, leaves and car doors. Are you happier with a noose around your neck too? It's safer. Traffic doesn't have to "squeeze by". And they will squeeze by. But I guess if motorists are allowed to pass and you are a motorist its all good for you. Every now and again, though, a militant bunch or another blocks up the two lane suburban artery roads here with their 15 mph asses. What makes you think they are militant rather than merely exercising their right to use the lane? And why don't you pass in the oncoming lane? Oh I know, its full of other motorists. You tell me. You're one of them. Am I right? When I ride in a group we use the full lane. So? So. Do tell. Do you have thoughts resembling: "So what? I'm well within my right. By law!" Traffic? Yeah, I suppose they are. Special status in the law, however, shouldn't preclude courtesy and consideration for others. No special status. Just status. Special status. Capital 'S'. Little school bus special. The only other unlicensed vehicles granted that use are farm implements, and then only with restrictions. Hey Boy, the reason motor vehicles require licensing and restrictions is because they are dangerous to others. Bicycles are not, hence they are not required to have those things. Nothing is "granted" to bicyclists. Others are restricted. That's really warped. Do you consider yourself extreme? Or just typical? According to your logic, although bicyclists are entitled to use of the full lane like other road users, they must be "courteous" and allow you to use it for passing them. If they don't, then they are militant. According to my logic, when I'm doing 15 in a 40 with traffic queuing behind me, I should find someplace to pull over and help them pass, no matter what I'm riding or driving. You seem to think 40 is a right in your scenario. That is a MAX. In all my years of riding a bike, I've never had a queue behind me to the extent I had to pull over. In other words, it never occurred to you that you should pull over. Fair enough, but hard to believe. A queue of even 1 should be plenty. If the MAX is 40, and the only other impediment is your slow ass, what do you say to removing that from the picture? I think we're back on topic now. The role of a handgun is to impose your personal will, by threat of or actual use of deadly force. How should one respond to the imposition of your discourteous view of fair road use? |
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"evelyn" wrote in message
oups.com... On May 2, 2:14 pm, (Matthew T. Russotto) wrote: In article .com, evelyn wrote: How broad do you want? Being touched, groped, penetrated or sodomized, I call all that rape if I don't want it. Then get a better definition, because you're cheapening the word "rape". -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. maybe i should clarify: being touched, groped, penetrated or sodomized, I call all that SEXUAL ASSAULT if I don't want it. does this sound better? You are right, I don't want to cheapen the word "rape" Bloody hell. You forgot innuendo and off color jokes. |
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Maybe you should have seen Law and Order Special Victims Unit last night.
Violence is a virus. One out of three witnessing it will do the same. Same as passing on a cold. No motivation required supposedly. So be mindful of everyone. They could be affected by a disease and not know it. We are not talking violence on TV this is in person only. |
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A queue of even 1 should be plenty
? one is not traffic because it is a plural noun. has to be 3-4 vehicles to be considered traffic. And BTW do you pull out of the way of semis whenever you see them. Doubt it. Your lucky we pay your way baby don't make me come down there. To your level that is. I would ride extra distance to get where I am going but sometimes you have no choice ever think of that. besides a sidewalk, no thank-you |
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"BrianNZ" wrote in message ... evelyn wrote: how do you know.? I could be bigger than you or stronger than you, you are makine lots of assumptions because I assume I am a woman. You have no idea of what kind of person i am, what type of shape I am in, NOTHING. Hmmmmm....you assume you are a woman!? Drop your pants and take a look.....if you have a penis, you are a guy. Hope this helped clear that assumption up for you. Unless you are one of those confused individuals who has a penis but prefers wearing womens clothes...... I want to grow up and be big, strong gun nuts like you guys! I like the way you handle that Evelyn pussy.... imagine, carrying a gun, yet admitting there are gun problems in our society! That's the good thing about being a gun nut... plenty of small penis friends out there. __ Steve '06 FXDI KI5YG #0627 .. |
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Stephen Cowell wrote:
"BrianNZ" wrote in message ... evelyn wrote: how do you know.? I could be bigger than you or stronger than you, you are makine lots of assumptions because I assume I am a woman. You have no idea of what kind of person i am, what type of shape I am in, NOTHING. Hmmmmm....you assume you are a woman!? Drop your pants and take a look.....if you have a penis, you are a guy. Hope this helped clear that assumption up for you. Unless you are one of those confused individuals who has a penis but prefers wearing womens clothes...... I want to grow up and be big, strong gun nuts like you guys! ?? I was just helping evelyn get a grip on what sex she/he is....... I like the way you handle that Evelyn pussy.... "I never had sexual relations with that woman!" imagine, carrying a gun, yet admitting there are gun problems in our society! There are lots of law abiding people with guns who cause no trouble. The problems come about with misuse, so it's more of a people problem than a gun problem. A gun problem would be something like misfires or not feeding the rounds into the chamber properly......... That's the good thing about being a gun nut... Why is it you add 'nut' to anything to do with guns? plenty of small penis friends out there. I don't judge my friends by the size of their penis, but if thats what your'e into.......different strokes for different folks I suppose! __ Steve '06 FXDI KI5YG #0627 . |
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Mike Young wrote:
"Wayne Pein" wrote in message It's safer. Traffic doesn't have to "squeeze by". And they will squeeze by. So? Squeezing by sucks, but few collsions are caused by this. Thus it is not dangerous. By being in the traffic line, motorists slow and exhibit caution. On the other hand, most collisions occur via turning/merging movements, and riding far to the side out of the normal traffic line exacerbates these. When I ride in a group we use the full lane. So? So. Do tell. Do you have thoughts resembling: "So what? I'm well within my right. By law!" I think, "I'm with a large group enjoying myself. I'm sorry some motorists are inconvenienced for a short spell." Hey Boy, the reason motor vehicles require licensing and restrictions is because they are dangerous to others. Bicycles are not, hence they are not required to have those things. Nothing is "granted" to bicyclists. Others are restricted. That's really warped. Do you consider yourself extreme? Or just typical? I consider myself knowledgeble and you not. You seem to think 40 is a right in your scenario. That is a MAX. In all my years of riding a bike, I've never had a queue behind me to the extent I had to pull over. In other words, it never occurred to you that you should pull over. Fair enough, but hard to believe. A queue of even 1 should be plenty. My word! A queue by definition in the states that have such a law is typically 6 motor vehicles. If a slow user (bicyclist, front loader, farm tractor) had to pull over every time there was one vehicle delayed they would never get anywhere. If the MAX is 40, and the only other impediment is your slow ass, what do you say to removing that from the picture? I think we're back on topic now. I say you need to understand the rules of the road and quit thinking that you can travel at whatever speed you like when you like. The role of a handgun is to impose your personal will, by threat of or actual use of deadly force. How should one respond to the imposition of your discourteous view of fair road use? Idiot. That is not the role of a handgun. Grow up. Wayne |
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"Wayne Pein" wrote in message
... If a slow user (bicyclist, front loader, farm tractor) had to pull over every time there was one vehicle delayed they would never get anywhere. Bingo! Take a prize from the top shelf. You've earned it. The role of a handgun is to impose your personal will, by threat of or actual use of deadly force. How should one respond to the imposition of your discourteous view of fair road use? Idiot. That is not the role of a handgun. Grow up. Then, pray tell. What is the role of a handgun? |
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On Thu, 03 May 2007 03:06:53 GMT, "Mike Young"
wrote: "Wayne Pein" wrote in message .. . If a slow user (bicyclist, front loader, farm tractor) had to pull over every time there was one vehicle delayed they would never get anywhere. Bingo! Take a prize from the top shelf. You've earned it. The role of a handgun is to impose your personal will, by threat of or actual use of deadly force. How should one respond to the imposition of your discourteous view of fair road use? Idiot. That is not the role of a handgun. Grow up. Then, pray tell. What is the role of a handgun? They actually don't role worth a damn. They're flat on the sides. -- Click here every day to feed an animal that needs you today !!! http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/ Paul ( pjm @ pobox . com ) - remove spaces to email me 'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.' 'With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.' HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's Free demo now available online http://pmilligan.net/palm/ |
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Stephen! wrote:
snip a well written response re. how to carry a pistol ie. NOT behind a zipper!) Can you send me a pic? I would love to use it next time I go to the range for targe practice? Sure... http://imagesdesavions.com/me.jpg God god man, you could have shaved! You obviously aren't one of those new age 'back, sac & crack' wax guys...... |
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