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Conti Contact Security vs Schwalbe Marathon Plus cycle tires
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml
Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks |
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TJ wrote:
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." The page also says "The tread derives it’s superb function from a closer look at nature’s solutions. Animal paws were the model for designing the tread pattern and it’s surface!" How many animals have wheels and travel primarily on pavement? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Conti Contact Security vs Schwalbe Marathon Plus cycle tires
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, TJ wrote:
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml I note that the 26" version is only rated up to 58 psi, and they recommend only 45 psi. That seems incredibly low for a road tyre. Does the stiffness of the construction make up for it? They do say: "The Contact Security is designed for commuters who simply can't risk a puncture; people who want a no-hassle ride to work when speed and rolling resistance is not an issue." Which implies poor rolling resistance; maybe that's part of the reason. tom -- inspired by forty-rod whiskey |
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I note that the 26" version is only rated up to 58 psi, and they recommend only 45 psi. That seems incredibly low for a road tyre. Does the stiffness of the construction make up for it? They do say: Dutch Perfects have a similarly low pressure rating - I just ignore it and put a ton in anyway - so far, so good. Regards, Duncan |
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"The Contact Security is designed for commuters who simply can't risk a puncture; people who want a no-hassle ride to work when speed and rolling resistance is not an issue." an accurate statement. when speed and MITTY PRO RACER EFFECT SYNDROME are not issued. Conti designs around (?) a responsive sidewall. Seems that way as often a Conti sidewall is the tire's weakest area, when loaded with rubber as on the Security, less responsive than a TT. I carry groceries and camping equipment. The Security used here as a rear tire with a TT front was always (now at the end) pumped to near 90-100 pounds. At higher pressures, the tire is slippery during the break in miles. Slippery as overloaded slippery tho I ran it unloaded and it was again slippery. I assume I reduced the contact suface above a thick belt. ??? I don't know if that's logical. Never treid it at recommended pressures. That's from using the TT. Recommended TT pressures, I consider largely imaginary as one curb drop, I used non progressive bifocals, and whoooola! a cut sidewall from impact. Never had a flat. Is the tire fun for zipping around? sure, why not, even when slippery. itsnot a question of: is this tire dangerous itsha question of does the tire conform to Mitty Syndrome or Pole Disease. would I buy another. yes, if the debris content is high. I would try sanding the contact surface. cam I compare it to a Schwalbe? what planet are you from? I have Pasela Messengers. They're on strike. There's a comparison. The Messengers are wooden but grip, The Security isnot wooden and is early on slippery at lower cornering limits, at high pressures-necessary hi pressures. I have a Schwalbe Big Apple, unrun. It looks like the PR: new factory, new capitol, new technology. Looks a lot like a Pasela Messenger but thinner. |
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Conti Contact Security vs Schwalbe Marathon Plus cycle tires
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, Duncan Smith wrote: I note that the 26" version is only rated up to 58 psi, and they recommend only 45 psi. That seems incredibly low for a road tyre. Does the stiffness of the construction make up for it? They do say: Dutch Perfects have a similarly low pressure rating - I just ignore it and put a ton in anyway - so far, so good. Regards, Duncan I would be wary -- overpressure failures may not manifest immediately, and will tend to fail out the sidewall. i did something like that to a $$$ studded Nokian tire a few years back in an ill-advised attempt to lower rolling resistance. I ran it at 100+ psi instead of the recommended 65 max and blew out a sidewall after 4 months. Front wheel. Fortunately it happened while it was parked in my office and not out on the ice. ..max |
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On Feb 24, 3:07*pm, TJ wrote:
http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I haven't tried the Continental Contact Security and, having read what the manufacturers say about it in the sections you and Tom quote, I won't be trying them. I do however have experience of the Schwalbe Marathon Plus and the very similar Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcase, which are everything Continental says the Contact Security isn't: the Marathon Plus and the Bontrager Hard Case are high-pressure, low rolling-resistance tyres of exceptional puncture resistance; they also have perfectly good grip in the wet, considering that their tread is very low and the sipes are only at the sides of the tyres. I switched to Marathon after a series of flats in, among others, Continental tyres, that cost me about 125 Euro for new tubes and labour to fix flats, and after several ruined rides in the same week bit the bullet and bought the expensive Marathon Plus, and have not looked back; zero flats in about another 2000km on the same roads. The Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcase came on my Trek "Smover" and has about 1750km on the same roads that Contis (*not* the Contact Security) weren't good enough on. The Bontrager tyres have nice graphics, if such things matter to you, illustrated on my Trek "Smover" at: http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...20CYCLING.html There is nothing to choose between the Marathon Plus and the Bontrager Hardcase except that the Schwalbe tyre usually costs more even at the discounters, though I must admit I haven't fitted the Bontrager to rims yet (they came with the bike as a standard fitting); the Marathon was difficult enough to fit, being enormously stiff, but nowhere near impossible with patience. I wouldn't want to change a tube beside the road though with these tyres fitted. I suspect the Bontrager will be the same or a little more difficult to remove and refit as it feels stiffer still. Neither tyre shows appreciable wear in around 2k klicks on roughish roads. If comfort matters to you, you can have it on either by inflating to about 60psi at which they are quite resilient and do not add appreciable drag through higher rolling resistance, but I have suspension seatposts and forks on both my current bikes so I pump them up to about 85psi for minimum rolling resistance, at which point there is no rolling resistance penalty over any other tyre I have ever used; inflate higher still and the action becomes a bit jiggly on poor roads and the suspension starts working harder for its living. As you can guess, I'm a big fan of the Schwalbe Marathon Plus and the Bontrager Satellite Elite Hardcase -- I hate flats. Andre Jute http://members.lycos.co.uk/fiultra/B...20CYCLING.html |
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One necessary comparison: using a Specialized thornproof or thornproof plus slime tube in a sportier tire fills the bill excepting a thicker sidewall. Thicker sidewalls are not so thicker tho...that's a toss up depending on condiTions and riding habits. a thornproof in a Security doesnot normally flat |
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Andre Jute wrote:
the Marathon Plus and the Bontrager Hard Case are high-pressure, low rolling-resistance tyres of exceptional puncture resistance; they also have perfectly good grip in the wet, considering that their tread is very low and the sipes are only at the sides of the tyres. Contrary to common opinion, for any given rubber compound, (on bicycles) slick tyres are better in the wet than tyres with tread. They also tend to roll slightly better. Bicycle tyres with tread are only beneficial on soft surfaces, not on tarmac. -- (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/ :: Wisdom is better than weapons of war :: :: Ecclesiastes 9:18 :: |
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Conti Contact Security vs Schwalbe Marathon Plus cycle tires
"TJ" wrote in message ... http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...security.shtml Continental, Germany tells us the Contact Security is "Designed for industrial applications, the ContactSecurity can also perform well in everyday use. Its massive puncture-proof breaker was developed to resist metal cuttings and shards on factory grounds. In view of its tough construction, it is not a comfortable touring tyre with low rolling resistance, but it does effectively ward off gravel and shards on short stretches in the city." How do these compare for puncture protection, speed and mileage against the Schwalbe Mararthon Plus ?? Thanks I am quite happy with SM+ for Chicago city commuting. I hate flats, and I don't get any. As far as I am concerned (personally), this issue is closed. J. |
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