Cervelo

Made in ****in, Formosa

Probably by the same guy that made my new Fuji trackie
and my new Marin road bike that cost under $1000 for
the pair.

Some ****in' scam if you ask me.

Or proof of the old adage that _there's a Fool born every minute_

Myfirstname Mylastname wrote:
Made in ****in, Formosa

Probably by the same guy that made my new Fuji trackie
and my new Marin road bike that cost under $1000 for
the pair.

Some ****in' scam if you ask me.

Or proof of the old adage that _there's a Fool born every minute_

Do you like the bike? If so, shut the hell up. If not, sell it and
buy something else.

"Tom" writes:

Myfirstname Mylastname wrote:
Made in ****in, Formosa

Probably by the same guy that made my new Fuji trackie
and my new Marin road bike that cost under $1000 for
the pair.

Some ****in' scam if you ask me.

Or proof of the old adage that _there's a Fool born every minute_

Do you like the bike? If so, shut the hell up. If not, sell it and
buy something else.

Oh no. I wouldn't waste my money on high priced junk like Cervelo.

Point being that given the same set of tubing and two reasonably
competent frame mechanics/builders, the only difference in the two
frames will be:

(a) the maker's name;
(b) the price.

But suckers fall for the advertizing hype all the time.

So what's wrong with foreign made bikes? I've been riding Taiwanese
bikes for a long time, and have never had a frame problem. Although a
certain US manufacturer that I won't mention, had one of their frames
fail on me 2 times. First one got replaced, 2nd one failed as well.
I didn't bother building up the 3rd. Sold it on e-bay to someone else.

Tom

"Tom" writes:

So what's wrong with foreign made bikes? I've been riding Taiwanese
bikes for a long time, and have never had a frame problem. Although a
certain US manufacturer that I won't mention, had one of their frames
fail on me 2 times. First one got replaced, 2nd one failed as well.
I didn't bother building up the 3rd. Sold it on e-bay to someone else.

Tom

Yeah. Wrek and Crash-N-Fail are pretty ****ty products

Tom wrote:
So what's wrong with foreign made bikes? I've been riding Taiwanese
bikes for a long time, and have never had a frame problem. Although
a
certain US manufacturer that I won't mention, had one of their
frames
fail on me 2 times. First one got replaced, 2nd one failed as well.
I didn't bother building up the 3rd. Sold it on e-bay to someone
else.

Tom

Cervelo does make carbon bikes off shore, but I believe that they do
have a very proprietory technique/techniques and they select a
manufacturer and go over and train them and get an NDA or some such so
that you dont end up with everyone else getting their frames made the
same way.

I read a good tech piece on this somewhere, I forget if it was online,
or in talking to them or Jonathan regarding his bikes.

I believe they do have an very impressive failure rate, or lack
thereof, which I think means alot, verses some of these disposable
carbon bikes.

Bjarne Rijs likes them, enough to do a deal with them, and he is a real
tech weenie, right? Jalabert in the TDF on Tylers bike, all while
sponsored (and later employeed) by Look. I think they have _some_
cred.

Just my 2 cents.

Do you actually have any negative experience with them, or just
trolling?

J