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My Buddy has weird ideas regarding bike repairs
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My buddy's current ride is an old beat up department store 10 or 12 speed with stem shifters and false security/suicide brake levers.. I think I have talked my buddy out of drilling his the aluminium drop handlebars I was going to give him. This guy needs a slightly bigger frame than what his Hi-Tensile steel ultra-cheap department store bike has. I offered him my old Miele Uno frame that is made of Tange Cro- moly tubing -- #5 in I remember correctly. I also offered him an aluminium seat-post, stem, handlebars and Dia-Compe 500 brake calipers and a pair of aero brake levers plus a front and rear derailleur to shift a 42 - 52 crankset. I also offered him a sealed bottom bracket. All he wants is the frame minus the front forks. He doesn't like chrome forks. He recently laced a new old rim to his rear wheel because he broke the rim of the wheel by riding it with at least three broken spokes on the cluster side and all the other spokes were so loose that you could move them at least 3/4 of an inch when you squeezed two spokes together. In other words thee was no tension whatsoever on any of the spokes on that wheel. The other day went for a short ride. He had to stop and adjust the cones on his rear wheel because they were so lose that rim was hitting the chainstays. This is probably due to the fact that he doesn't believe he needs a cone wrench to hold the cone whilst he tightens the locknut against it. He just snugs the cone against the bearings and then tightens the locknut with needle nose vicegrips. He also believes that he can *PROPERLY* adjust a cup and cone bottom bracket be tightening the lockring with channellock pliers and then, if the cup is too tight, loosening the adjustable cup with a drift punch and hammer. He also believes that he can use a rear derailleur with a built in hanger (super-cheap Shimano) on this frame that has an integral derailleur hanger on it. If he did that would he be able to get that old derailleur to shift 6 gears of 6 gear cluster? This guy doesn't take very good care of his stuff. Now I'm very hesitant to give him this frame and the decent components that I have for it. So, can a rear derailleur with an integral hanger be used on a frame that has a built on hanger on it? Thanks and cheers from Peter |
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On 3/10/2011 11:13 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Hi there. My buddy's current ride is an old beat up department store 10 or 12 speed with stem shifters and false security/suicide brake levers.. I think I have talked my buddy out of drilling his the aluminium drop handlebars I was going to give him. This guy needs a slightly bigger frame than what his Hi-Tensile steel ultra-cheap department store bike has. I offered him my old Miele Uno frame that is made of Tange Cro- moly tubing -- #5 in I remember correctly. I also offered him an aluminium seat-post, stem, handlebars and Dia-Compe 500 brake calipers and a pair of aero brake levers plus a front and rear derailleur to shift a 42 - 52 crankset. I also offered him a sealed bottom bracket. All he wants is the frame minus the front forks. He doesn't like chrome forks. He recently laced a new old rim to his rear wheel because he broke the rim of the wheel by riding it with at least three broken spokes on the cluster side and all the other spokes were so loose that you could move them at least 3/4 of an inch when you squeezed two spokes together. In other words thee was no tension whatsoever on any of the spokes on that wheel. The other day went for a short ride. He had to stop and adjust the cones on his rear wheel because they were so lose that rim was hitting the chainstays. This is probably due to the fact that he doesn't believe he needs a cone wrench to hold the cone whilst he tightens the locknut against it. He just snugs the cone against the bearings and then tightens the locknut with needle nose vicegrips. He also believes that he can *PROPERLY* adjust a cup and cone bottom bracket be tightening the lockring with channellock pliers and then, if the cup is too tight, loosening the adjustable cup with a drift punch and hammer. He also believes that he can use a rear derailleur with a built in hanger (super-cheap Shimano) on this frame that has an integral derailleur hanger on it. If he did that would he be able to get that old derailleur to shift 6 gears of 6 gear cluster? This guy doesn't take very good care of his stuff. Now I'm very hesitant to give him this frame and the decent components that I have for it. So, can a rear derailleur with an integral hanger be used on a frame that has a built on hanger on it? Thanks and cheers from Peter Get him one of these: http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=HMV31642. -- Tēm ShermĒn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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My Buddy has weird ideas regarding bike repairs
On Mar 11, 5:13*am, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Hi there. My buddy's current ride is an old beat up department store 10 or 12 speed with stem shifters and false security/suicide brake levers.. I think I have *talked my buddy out of drilling his the aluminium drop handlebars I was going to give him. This guy needs a slightly bigger frame than what his Hi-Tensile steel ultra-cheap department store bike has. I offered him my old Miele Uno frame that is made of Tange Cro- moly tubing -- #5 in I remember correctly. I also offered him an aluminium seat-post, stem, handlebars and Dia-Compe 500 brake calipers and a pair of aero brake levers plus a front and rear derailleur to shift a 42 - 52 crankset. I also offered him a sealed bottom bracket. All he wants is the frame minus the front forks. He doesn't like chrome forks. He recently laced a new old rim to his rear wheel because he broke the rim of the wheel by riding it with at least three broken spokes on the cluster side and all the other spokes were so loose that you could move them at least 3/4 of an inch when you squeezed two spokes together. In other words thee was no tension whatsoever on any of the spokes on that wheel. The other day went for a short ride. He had to stop and adjust the cones on his rear wheel because they were so lose that rim was hitting the chainstays. This is probably due to the fact that he doesn't believe he needs a cone wrench to hold the cone whilst he tightens the locknut against it. He just snugs the cone against the bearings and then tightens the locknut with needle nose vicegrips. He also believes that he can *PROPERLY* adjust a cup and cone bottom bracket be tightening the lockring with channellock pliers and then, if the cup is too tight, loosening the adjustable cup with a drift punch and hammer. He also believes that he can use a rear derailleur with a built in hanger (super-cheap Shimano) on this frame that has an integral derailleur hanger on it. If he did that would he be able to get that old derailleur to shift 6 gears of *6 gear cluster? Probably. Bending or filing the stop to get a bit more range is also possible. This guy doesn't take very good care of his stuff. *Now I'm very hesitant to give him this frame and the decent components that I have for it. If he gets to be a distance cyclist because he has a frame that fits, his maintenance should improve, but don't be surprised to see the frame with dented chainstays etc. So, can a rear derailleur with an integral hanger be used on a frame that has a built on hanger on it? Yes. Thanks and cheers from Peter |
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Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Hi there. My buddy's current ride is an old beat up department store 10 or 12 speed with stem shifters and false security/suicide brake levers.. I think I have talked my buddy out of drilling his the aluminium drop handlebars I was going to give him. This guy needs a slightly bigger frame than what his Hi-Tensile steel ultra-cheap department store bike has. I offered him my old Miele Uno frame that is made of Tange Cro- moly tubing -- #5 in I remember correctly. I also offered him an aluminium seat-post, stem, handlebars and Dia-Compe 500 brake calipers and a pair of aero brake levers plus a front and rear derailleur to shift a 42 - 52 crankset. I also offered him a sealed bottom bracket. All he wants is the frame minus the front forks. He doesn't like chrome forks. He recently laced a new old rim to his rear wheel because he broke the rim of the wheel by riding it with at least three broken spokes on the cluster side and all the other spokes were so loose that you could move them at least 3/4 of an inch when you squeezed two spokes together. In other words thee was no tension whatsoever on any of the spokes on that wheel. The other day went for a short ride. He had to stop and adjust the cones on his rear wheel because they were so lose that rim was hitting the chainstays. This is probably due to the fact that he doesn't believe he needs a cone wrench to hold the cone whilst he tightens the locknut against it. He just snugs the cone against the bearings and then tightens the locknut with needle nose vicegrips. He also believes that he can *PROPERLY* adjust a cup and cone bottom bracket be tightening the lockring with channellock pliers and then, if the cup is too tight, loosening the adjustable cup with a drift punch and hammer. He also believes that he can use a rear derailleur with a built in hanger (super-cheap Shimano) on this frame that has an integral derailleur hanger on it. If he did that would he be able to get that old derailleur to shift 6 gears of 6 gear cluster? This guy doesn't take very good care of his stuff. Now I'm very hesitant to give him this frame and the decent components that I have for it. So, can a rear derailleur with an integral hanger be used on a frame that has a built on hanger on it? Thanks and cheers from Peter Would I suggest it? No. Do I see them on garbage-picked bikes? Yep. Slide the adapter plate under the right axle nut and adjust as needed. It's a lousy setup and changes when you remove the wheel. A new derailleur is between $10 and $15. Used free derailleurs are also relatively common. If you want some advice, stop helping. Just nod and concur and get on with your life as 'helping' will be frustrating and inconclusive. But he isn't my friend, make your own judgment call there. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Mar 11, 4:00*pm, AMuzi wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote: Hi there. My buddy's current ride is an old beat up department store 10 or 12 speed with stem shifters and false security/suicide brake levers.. I think I have *talked my buddy out of drilling his the aluminium drop handlebars I was going to give him. This guy needs a slightly bigger frame than what his Hi-Tensile steel ultra-cheap department store bike has. I offered him my old Miele Uno frame that is made of Tange Cro- moly tubing -- #5 in I remember correctly. I also offered him an aluminium seat-post, stem, handlebars and Dia-Compe 500 brake calipers and a pair of aero brake levers plus a front and rear derailleur to shift a 42 - 52 crankset. I also offered him a sealed bottom bracket. All he wants is the frame minus the front forks. He doesn't like chrome forks. He recently laced a new old rim to his rear wheel because he broke the rim of the wheel by riding it with at least three broken spokes on the cluster side and all the other spokes were so loose that you could move them at least 3/4 of an inch when you squeezed two spokes together. In other words thee was no tension whatsoever on any of the spokes on that wheel. The other day went for a short ride. He had to stop and adjust the cones on his rear wheel because they were so lose that rim was hitting the chainstays. This is probably due to the fact that he doesn't believe he needs a cone wrench to hold the cone whilst he tightens the locknut against it. He just snugs the cone against the bearings and then tightens the locknut with needle nose vicegrips. He also believes that he can *PROPERLY* adjust a cup and cone bottom bracket be tightening the lockring with channellock pliers and then, if the cup is too tight, loosening the adjustable cup with a drift punch and hammer. He also believes that he can use a rear derailleur with a built in hanger (super-cheap Shimano) on this frame that has an integral derailleur hanger on it. If he did that would he be able to get that old derailleur to shift 6 gears of *6 gear cluster? This guy doesn't take very good care of his stuff. *Now I'm very hesitant to give him this frame and the decent components that I have for it. So, can a rear derailleur with an integral hanger be used on a frame that has a built on hanger on it? Thanks and cheers from Peter Would I suggest it? No. Do I see them on garbage-picked bikes? Yep. Slide the adapter plate under the right axle nut and adjust as needed. It's a lousy setup and changes when you remove the wheel. A new derailleur is between $10 and $15. Used free derailleurs are also relatively common. If you want some advice, stop helping. Just nod and concur and get on with your life as 'helping' will be frustrating and inconclusive. But he isn't my friend, make your own judgment call there. -- Andrew Muzi * www.yellowjersey.org/ * Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Hi there. Thanks for the advice everyone. After the latest adventures with this guy today I am no longer volunteering advice or parts. Andrew is right, trying to help this guy is a lesson in futility and frustration. I do hope that his set ways do not cause him to become another cycling statistic. Thanks again and cheers from Peter |
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My Buddy has weird ideas regarding bike repairs
On 3/11/2011 3:22 PM, kolldata aka AVAGADRO IV/V wrote:
visit the cemetery For pizza: http://www.nestleusa.com/pubourbrands/BrandDetails.aspx?lbid=46035BAD-C668-4C1D-91BE-56A6BD2BAE37. -- Tēm ShermĒn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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My Buddy has weird ideas regarding bike repairs
On Mar 11, 5:10*pm, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Mar 11, 4:00*pm, AMuzi wrote: Sir Ridesalot wrote: Hi there. My buddy's current ride is an old beat up department store 10 or 12 speed with stem shifters and false security/suicide brake levers.. I think I have *talked my buddy out of drilling his the aluminium drop handlebars I was going to give him. This guy needs a slightly bigger frame than what his Hi-Tensile steel ultra-cheap department store bike has. I offered him my old Miele Uno frame that is made of Tange Cro- moly tubing -- #5 in I remember correctly. I also offered him an aluminium seat-post, stem, handlebars and Dia-Compe 500 brake calipers and a pair of aero brake levers plus a front and rear derailleur to shift a 42 - 52 crankset. I also offered him a sealed bottom bracket. All he wants is the frame minus the front forks. He doesn't like chrome forks. He recently laced a new old rim to his rear wheel because he broke the rim of the wheel by riding it with at least three broken spokes on the cluster side and all the other spokes were so loose that you could move them at least 3/4 of an inch when you squeezed two spokes together. In other words thee was no tension whatsoever on any of the spokes on that wheel. The other day went for a short ride. He had to stop and adjust the cones on his rear wheel because they were so lose that rim was hitting the chainstays. This is probably due to the fact that he doesn't believe he needs a cone wrench to hold the cone whilst he tightens the locknut against it. He just snugs the cone against the bearings and then tightens the locknut with needle nose vicegrips. He also believes that he can *PROPERLY* adjust a cup and cone bottom bracket be tightening the lockring with channellock pliers and then, if the cup is too tight, loosening the adjustable cup with a drift punch and hammer. He also believes that he can use a rear derailleur with a built in hanger (super-cheap Shimano) on this frame that has an integral derailleur hanger on it. If he did that would he be able to get that old derailleur to shift 6 gears of *6 gear cluster? This guy doesn't take very good care of his stuff. *Now I'm very hesitant to give him this frame and the decent components that I have for it. So, can a rear derailleur with an integral hanger be used on a frame that has a built on hanger on it? Thanks and cheers from Peter Would I suggest it? No. Do I see them on garbage-picked bikes? Yep. Slide the adapter plate under the right axle nut and adjust as needed. It's a lousy setup and changes when you remove the wheel. A new derailleur is between $10 and $15. Used free derailleurs are also relatively common. If you want some advice, stop helping. Just nod and concur and get on with your life as 'helping' will be frustrating and inconclusive. But he isn't my friend, make your own judgment call there. -- Andrew Muzi * www.yellowjersey.org/ * Open every day since 1 April, 1971 Hi there. Thanks for the advice everyone. After the latest adventures with this guy today I am no longer volunteering advice or parts. Andrew is right, trying to help this guy is a lesson in futility and frustration. I do hope that his set ways do not cause him to become another cycling statistic. Why not get him a bike repair book for his birthday. |
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