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http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004...cling.features
Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. On his arrival at Turin's Centro Traumatologico Ortopedico at 3.20pm, doctors were startled to discover blood values that were abnormal, almost bizar his haematocrit, or red cell count, was 60 per cent (50 per cent is high); his haemoglobin was 20.8g per 100ml (18g is noteworthy). These values then plummeted: on 25 October, with 15.9 per cent haematocrit and 5.8g haemoglobin, it took a transfusion to save his life. After which the anaemia miraculously cleared. Someone, it seemed, had injected Pantani with the genetically engineered blood-booster erythropoietin, known in sport as the doping agent EPO. At the age of just 25, Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. |
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On Jul 29, 11:31*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004...cling.features Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. On his arrival at Turin's Centro Traumatologico Ortopedico at 3.20pm, doctors were startled to discover blood values that were abnormal, almost bizar his haematocrit, or red cell count, was 60 per cent (50 per cent is high); his haemoglobin was 20.8g per 100ml (18g is noteworthy). These values then plummeted: on 25 October, with 15.9 per cent haematocrit and 5.8g haemoglobin, it took a transfusion to save his life. After which the anaemia miraculously cleared. Someone, it seemed, had injected Pantani with the genetically engineered blood-booster erythropoietin, known in sport as the doping agent EPO. At the age of just 25, Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. I am retarded |
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"Anton Berlin" wrote in message
... http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004...cling.features Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. On his arrival at Turin's Centro Traumatologico Ortopedico at 3.20pm, doctors were startled to discover blood values that were abnormal, almost bizar his haematocrit, or red cell count, was 60 per cent (50 per cent is high); his haemoglobin was 20.8g per 100ml (18g is noteworthy). These values then plummeted: on 25 October, with 15.9 per cent haematocrit and 5.8g haemoglobin, it took a transfusion to save his life. After which the anaemia miraculously cleared. Someone, it seemed, had injected Pantani with the genetically engineered blood-booster erythropoietin, known in sport as the doping agent EPO. At the age of just 25, Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. Not that I should be taking your post so seriously, but if I recall correctly, there's never been any evidence that Lance had an outrageously-high hematocrit level, only that it hasn't, at times, fluctuated in the normal manner one would expect during a three-week event. Pantani, like Ricco, apparently doped to the gills. If Lance doped, it was evidently far more carefully managed than Pantani, and I'd assume far less likely to have long-lasting health effects. Try as one might, Lance's phenomenal success cannot be attributed solely to (alleged) doping. He rode for one of the most well-organized & disciplined teams, with a clear focus (contrast that with Telekom!). While other teams stayed at hotels sponsored by the TdF organization, US Postal and Discovery usually had their own, considerably-upgraded digs. I suppose that all of that was just a cover, a way to make it appear that Postal & Discovery had all manner of reasons that made them better, in order to get people to overlook the idea that they were doping? --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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Interesting read.
Even more interesting is the irony of how one cycling icon destroyed himself, while another is being destroyed by others who are bitter of his success. On Jul 29, 10:31*pm, Anton Berlin wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004...cling.features Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. On his arrival at Turin's Centro Traumatologico Ortopedico at 3.20pm, doctors were startled to discover blood values that were abnormal, almost bizar his haematocrit, or red cell count, was 60 per cent (50 per cent is high); his haemoglobin was 20.8g per 100ml (18g is noteworthy). These values then plummeted: on 25 October, with 15.9 per cent haematocrit and 5.8g haemoglobin, it took a transfusion to save his life. After which the anaemia miraculously cleared. Someone, it seemed, had injected Pantani with the genetically engineered blood-booster erythropoietin, known in sport as the doping agent EPO. At the age of just 25, Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. |
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On 7/30/2010 2:19 AM, Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
"Anton wrote in message ... http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004...cling.features Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. On his arrival at Turin's Centro Traumatologico Ortopedico at 3.20pm, doctors were startled to discover blood values that were abnormal, almost bizar his haematocrit, or red cell count, was 60 per cent (50 per cent is high); his haemoglobin was 20.8g per 100ml (18g is noteworthy). These values then plummeted: on 25 October, with 15.9 per cent haematocrit and 5.8g haemoglobin, it took a transfusion to save his life. After which the anaemia miraculously cleared. Someone, it seemed, had injected Pantani with the genetically engineered blood-booster erythropoietin, known in sport as the doping agent EPO. At the age of just 25, Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it could no longer produce red blood cells. Not that I should be taking your post so seriously, but if I recall correctly, there's never been any evidence that Lance had an outrageously-high hematocrit level, only that it hasn't, at times, fluctuated in the normal manner one would expect during a three-week event. Pantani, like Ricco, apparently doped to the gills. If Lance doped, it was evidently far more carefully managed than Pantani, and I'd assume far less likely to have long-lasting health effects. Try as one might, Lance's phenomenal success cannot be attributed solely to (alleged) doping. He rode for one of the most well-organized& disciplined teams, with a clear focus (contrast that with Telekom!). While other teams stayed at hotels sponsored by the TdF organization, US Postal and Discovery usually had their own, considerably-upgraded digs. I suppose that all of that was just a cover, a way to make it appear that Postal& Discovery had all manner of reasons that made them better, in order to get people to overlook the idea that they were doping? --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com OK. A hard working doper. And.............? |
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Even more interesting is the irony of how one cycling icon destroyed himself, while another is being destroyed by others who are bitter of his success. If Laff or I actually thought we could really have an impact on Lance I am sure we would both ratchet it up. The world turns whether Laff or I post these articles into RBR and Lance's bed is already made. I am sure Jeff Novitzky doesn't want to win any bike races - I know its hard for some of you jackasses to understand but there are some people out there that like archaic concepts like truth and honor. |
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CowPunk wrote:
Interesting read. Even more interesting is the irony of how one cycling icon destroyed himself, while another is being destroyed by others who are bitter of his success. Very good read. You don't see anything of that quality written on CN anymore, if they ever did. Jeff wrote a few good ones in the past. |
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"Anton Berlin" wrote in message ... : http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2004...cling.features : : Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections that it : could no longer produce red blood cells. : : On his arrival at Turin's Centro Traumatologico Ortopedico at 3.20pm, : doctors were startled to discover blood values that were abnormal, : almost bizar his haematocrit, or red cell count, was 60 per cent : (50 per cent is high); his haemoglobin was 20.8g per 100ml (18g is : noteworthy). These values then plummeted: on 25 October, with 15.9 per : cent haematocrit and 5.8g haemoglobin, it took a transfusion to save : his life. : : After which the anaemia miraculously cleared. Someone, it seemed, had : injected Pantani with the genetically engineered blood-booster : erythropoietin, known in sport as the doping agent EPO. At the age of : just 25, Pantani's body had grown so dependent on these injections : that it could no longer produce red blood cells. Dumbass - And yet you claim that drugs smooth out performance, eliminating bad days. thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. |
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message ... : : : OK. A hard working doper. And.............? Dumbass - You're so biased that you can't even make this connection. Idiot. Read the title of the thread and then the orginal post. Anton equated Pantani to LANCE and Mike showed how they are not equivalent. EPO, like the majority of drugs, doesn't have long term effects if used correctly. Pantani did not, but he's one of the exceptions rather than the rule. thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. |
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On 7/30/2010 1:03 PM, Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
"B. wrote in message ... : : : OK. A hard working doper. And.............? Dumbass - You're so biased that you can't even make this connection. Idiot. Read the title of the thread and then the orginal post. Anton equated Pantani to LANCE and Mike showed how they are not equivalent. EPO, like the majority of drugs, doesn't have long term effects if used correctly. Pantani did not, but he's one of the exceptions rather than the rule. thanks, Kurgan. presented by Gringioni. Tks again for sharing your thoughts, Henry. |
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