Obree and drugs

Happened to catch the end of the Flying Scotsman on TV tonight. So I
wiki'd Obree to find out what he is doing now.

I found this statement interesting;
Obree said of his short professional career: "I still feel I was
robbed of part of my career. I was signed up to ride in the prologue
of the Tour back in 1995, but it was made very obvious to me I would
have to take drugs. I said no, no way, and I was sacked by my team. So
there I was, 11 years later, sitting there waiting for the Tour
cyclists to come by, and something welled up in me. I feel I was
robbed by a lot of these *******s taking drugs. I also hate the way
that people think anyone who has ever achieved anything on a bike must
have been taking drugs. I was surprised how resentful I felt when I
was in Paris. It had obviously been simmering away in there for years.
That's something new I'll have to talk to my therapist about."[6]

He said in L'Équipe: "In my opinion, 99 percent of riders at élite
level take EPO or a similar drug, not particularly to dope themselves
but to be at the same level as the others. And I find that rather
sad."[17][n 4]

His web site says: "AND by the way, I never took drugs to improve my
performance at any time as has been happening in the sport for a long
time. I will be willing to stick my finger into a polygraph test if
anyone with big media pull wants to take issue. In other words, if you
buy a signed poster now it will not be tarnished later."[18]

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CowPunk wrote:

Happened to catch the end of the Flying Scotsman on TV tonight. So I
wiki'd Obree to find out what he is doing now.

I found this statement interesting;
Obree said of his short professional career: "I still feel I was
robbed of part of my career. I was signed up to ride in the prologue
of the Tour back in 1995, but it was made very obvious to me I would
have to take drugs. I said no, no way, and I was sacked by my team. So
there I was, 11 years later, sitting there waiting for the Tour
cyclists to come by, and something welled up in me. I feel I was
robbed by a lot of these *******s taking drugs. I also hate the way
that people think anyone who has ever achieved anything on a bike must
have been taking drugs. I was surprised how resentful I felt when I
was in Paris. It had obviously been simmering away in there for years.
That's something new I'll have to talk to my therapist about."[6]

He said in L'Équipe: "In my opinion, 99 percent of riders at élite
level take EPO or a similar drug, not particularly to dope themselves
but to be at the same level as the others. And I find that rather
sad."[17][n 4]

His web site says: "AND by the way, I never took drugs to improve my
performance at any time as has been happening in the sport for a long
time. I will be willing to stick my finger into a polygraph test if
anyone with big media pull wants to take issue. In other words, if you
buy a signed poster now it will not be tarnished later."[18]

Obree is the only guy on the planet who was passed over
for promotion in favor of a cheat. Fifteen years and he
cannot get over it. No wonder everybody picks on him:
he is easy. Graham, do what the rest of us do: toughen
up, **** on the *******s, and walk away. Living well is
the best revenge.

--
Michael Press

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"CowPunk" wrote in message
...
Happened to catch the end of the Flying Scotsman on TV tonight. So I
wiki'd Obree to find out what he is doing now.

I found this statement interesting;
Obree said of his short professional career: "I still feel I was
robbed of part of my career. I was signed up to ride in the prologue
of the Tour back in 1995, but it was made very obvious to me I would
have to take drugs. I said no, no way, and I was sacked by my team. So
there I was, 11 years later, sitting there waiting for the Tour
cyclists to come by, and something welled up in me. I feel I was
robbed by a lot of these *******s taking drugs. I also hate the way
that people think anyone who has ever achieved anything on a bike must
have been taking drugs. I was surprised how resentful I felt when I
was in Paris. It had obviously been simmering away in there for years.
That's something new I'll have to talk to my therapist about."[6]

He said in L'Équipe: "In my opinion, 99 percent of riders at élite
level take EPO or a similar drug, not particularly to dope themselves
but to be at the same level as the others. And I find that rather
sad."[17][n 4]

His web site says: "AND by the way, I never took drugs to improve my
performance at any time as has been happening in the sport for a long
time. I will be willing to stick my finger into a polygraph test if
anyone with big media pull wants to take issue. In other words, if you
buy a signed poster now it will not be tarnished later."[18]
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I'm beginning to feel like Forest Gump.

I was there, with Graeme, at the 2006 Tour de France.
http://picasaweb.google.com/ChainRea...59054594932754
for a photo I took of Graeme with the group I was traveling with for the
'Tour. He had quite the story to tell, although he probably could have
told it better with fewer beers under his belt.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

On Aug 23, 3:00*pm, CowPunk wrote:
Happened to catch the end of the Flying Scotsman on TV tonight. *So I
wiki'd Obree to find out what he is doing now.

I found this statement interesting;
Obree said of his short professional career: "I still feel I was
robbed of part of my career. I was signed up to ride in the prologue
of the Tour back in 1995, but it was made very obvious to me I would
have to take drugs. I said no, no way, and I was sacked by my team. So
there I was, 11 years later, sitting there waiting for the Tour
cyclists to come by, and something welled up in me. I feel I was
robbed by a lot of these *******s taking drugs. I also hate the way
that people think anyone who has ever achieved anything on a bike must
have been taking drugs. I was surprised how resentful I felt when I
was in Paris. It had obviously been simmering away in there for years.
That's something new I'll have to talk to my therapist about."[6]

He said in L'Équipe: "In my opinion, 99 percent of riders at élite
level take EPO or a similar drug, not particularly to dope themselves
but to be at the same level as the others. And I find that rather
sad."[17][n 4]

His web site says: "AND by the way, I never took drugs to improve my
performance at any time as has been happening in the sport for a long
time. I will be willing to stick my finger into a polygraph test if
anyone with big media pull wants to take issue. In other words, if you
buy a signed poster now it will not be tarnished later."[18]

if I had $1 for every rider that said they did't race (or gave up)
because everyone was doping

accusing basically every rider on le Tour of doping is a bit immature.

The best (only) revenge is success.

On Aug 23, 4:45*pm, Michael Press wrote:

Obree is the only guy on the planet who was passed over
for promotion in favor of a cheat. Fifteen years and he
cannot get over it. No wonder everybody picks on him:
he is easy. Graham, do what the rest of us do: toughen
up, **** on the *******s, and walk away. Living well is
the best revenge.

"Harden up" - that's awesome advice to give to someone who suffered
from depression.
What would you have done if you had happened upon him in the barn?
Told him to just get on with it or helped him kick the stool away?

if I had $1 for every rider that said they didn't race (or gave up)
because everyone was doping
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Now where should I send my dollar?

On Aug 24, 12:12*am, Cicero Venatio wrote:
if I had $1 for every rider that said they didn't race (or gave up)
because everyone was doping

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Now where should I send my dollar?

good manners prevent

It's just a cop-out.

I hate cheats. But I have no time for whiner's and psychic omnipotent
types, they are just as bad as the dopers.
Evidence, proper hard evidence, with a chain, and procedures and
documentation. Not "I saw someone take something" or some story in
some tabloid.

I like the big investigation going on the USA, more power to it.

I was a big fan of Jan Ullrich, he didn't exactly finish with his
reputation intact.

My biggest disappointment would be if our most famous cyclist, Sarah
Ulmer, was found to be a doper. That would suck.

On Aug 23, 6:36*pm, drmofe wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:45*pm, Michael Press wrote:

Obree is the only guy on the planet who was passed over
for promotion in favor of a cheat. Fifteen years and he
cannot get over it. No wonder everybody picks on him:
he is easy. Graham, do what the rest of us do: toughen
up, **** on the *******s, and walk away. Living well is
the best revenge.

"Harden up" - that's awesome advice to give to someone who suffered
from depression.
What would you have done if you had happened upon him in the barn?
Told him to just get on with it or helped him kick the stool away?

one of our most famous sports people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ9yRhCiLfA
this campaign has been amazing

When the god damn All Blacks start winning in rugby we will listen to
you fuggin kiwis but not until then.

On Aug 23, 7:36*am, drmofe wrote:
On Aug 23, 4:45*pm, Michael Press wrote:

Obree is the only guy on the planet who was passed over
for promotion in favor of a cheat. Fifteen years and he
cannot get over it. No wonder everybody picks on him:
he is easy. Graham, do what the rest of us do: toughen
up, **** on the *******s, and walk away. Living well is
the best revenge.

"Harden up" - that's awesome advice to give to someone who suffered
from depression.

Well I agree - pull yourself together man, stiff upper lip and all
that! Actually, all you'd have to do is tell him he could only commit
suicide with a gun and then he'd set to cannibalising washing machines
to make the bestest possible one on the planet and get so tied up in
it he'd forget what he made it for :-)

Simples!

UD