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Highgate Bridge
From the beeb: """ City's newest bridge is named A £500,000 bridge has been named in a ceremony. Highgate Bridge is a footbridge and cycleway which crosses the A690 near Castle Chare in Durham City and will link the railway station with the city centre. The name was chosen after a public competition, which attracted more than 100 entries. The 100ft steel bridge will be part of a cycle route to the north of the city which will be completed later this year. """ From me: During its construction it was known as the Castle Chare Cycle Bridge. The name plaques, which I noticed on Monday, don't mention cycles. I note that it "will be" part of a cycle route. It certainly doesn't link the railway station with the city centre for cyclists as it involves rather a lot of steps. Access, by bike, to the bridge is limited. On the railway station side the only route cycles can take is through a new housing development, over some cobbles which have already become a de facto parking area for the residents. On the other side of the bridge it emerges onto a part cobbled back road. One direction feeds straight back onto the A690, the road the bridge bridges. In the other direction a tarmac slope has been added alongside the steps. This is a very steep slope with a wooden barrier at the bottom. I can see it being useful for walking a bike down but not for cycling up or down. Finally the newly designed roundabout (well it was a roundabout, it's now a roundabout with a road going through the middle of it and lots of lights) near the bridge now has two light controlled crossings marked for cycles as well as pedestrians. None of the pavements are dual use, yet. The thirdr crossing is pedestrians only. The layout raises lots of questions which I suspect should be addressed to someone in the council. However, my last letter to the council, regarding cycle parking that had been removed during re-paving, was replied to politely but the promised action was never taken. There is still no replacement cycle parking. Colin |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:04:34 +0100, Colin Blackburn wrote:
back road. One direction feeds straight back onto the A690, the road the bridge bridges. In the other direction a tarmac slope has been added alongside the steps. This is a very steep slope with a wooden barrier at the bottom. I can see it being useful for walking a bike down but not for cycling up or down. Why do these eejits never consider elderly or disabled cyclists? I know at least one person who can cycle, but doesn't get on with carrying a bike. And there's someone on this list with a handcycle. Would planners expect mums and dads with prams to push them up a steep slope? |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:16:54 +0100, John Hearns wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:04:34 +0100, Colin Blackburn wrote: back road. One direction feeds straight back onto the A690, the road the bridge bridges. In the other direction a tarmac slope has been added alongside the steps. This is a very steep slope with a wooden barrier at the bottom. I can see it being useful for walking a bike down but not for cycling up or down. Why do these eejits never consider elderly or disabled cyclists? I know at least one person who can cycle, but doesn't get on with carrying a bike. I am of course assuming the slope is related to cycling but I have no foundation for that other than wondering what else it could be for in that location. However, I have requested further information from the council re their cycle route around this bridge and roundabout. I hope to be enlightened. And there's someone on this list with a handcycle. Would planners expect mums and dads with prams to push them up a steep slope? Who knows. As I say this short slope ends at a barrier. One must then get off the bottom of the slope by moving sideways onto the large bottom step and descending that step. I will, until I have further information, remain puzzled by the ramp. Colin |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:24:52 +0100, Colin Blackburn wrote:
Who knows. As I say this short slope ends at a barrier. One must then get off the bottom of the slope by moving sideways onto the large bottom step and descending that step. I will, until I have further information, remain puzzled by the ramp. Any new construction should have wheelchair access. OK, a bit of an old example but the Wobbly Bridge in London does. Given step-free wheelchair access, that provides bike and pushchair access too. Seems to me like a fast one has been pulled - maybe worth contacting the local newspaper? |
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"Colin Blackburn" writes:
I am of course assuming the slope is related to cycling but I have no foundation for that other than wondering what else it could be for in that location. However, I have requested further information from the council re their cycle route around this bridge and roundabout. I hope to be enlightened. They are required to have facilities for the disabled, so that could be a slope for wheelchair users. Although I'm sure I'm much happier on steep slopes than most wheelchair users would be. A |
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Highgate Bridge
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:24:52 +0100, Colin Blackburn wrote:
Who knows. As I say this short slope ends at a barrier. One must then get off the bottom of the slope by moving sideways onto the large bottom step and descending that step. I will, until I have further information, remain puzzled by the ramp. A quick Google finds a press release on the Durham council website. "At the Castle Chare end of the bridge, there will be steps for pedestrians and a ramp for cyclists." |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:32:25 +0100, John Hearns wrote:
Any new construction should have wheelchair access. OK, a bit of an old example but the Wobbly Bridge in London does. Given step-free wheelchair access, that provides bike and pushchair access too. Seems to me like a fast one has been pulled - maybe worth contacting the local newspaper? Sorry, I am not making things very clear. This slope/step thing is not directly connected with the bridge. Similarly the roundabout changes (Toucan-style crossings) are not connected directly with the bridge. However, they are all in the same location and the three together are probably part of a larger strategy. A wheel-chair use could get to and cross the bridge, as could a cyclist, it's just that the only effectrive route doesn't seem to go from anywhere to anywhere. I may draw a map for any further explanation! Colin |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:36:54 +0100, John Hearns wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:24:52 +0100, Colin Blackburn wrote: Who knows. As I say this short slope ends at a barrier. One must then get off the bottom of the slope by moving sideways onto the large bottom step and descending that step. I will, until I have further information, remain puzzled by the ramp. A quick Google finds a press release on the Durham council website. "At the Castle Chare end of the bridge, there will be steps for pedestrians and a ramp for cyclists." Crikey, you've googled better than me! This is not, however, the steps/ramp that is *near* the bridge but the steps/ramp that is part of the bridge. As I said, I'll do a map when I get a chance. Colin |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:35:38 +0100, Ambrose Nankivell wrote:
"Colin Blackburn" writes: They are required to have facilities for the disabled, so that could be a slope for wheelchair users. Although I'm sure I'm much happier on steep slopes than most wheelchair users would be. As you say, the slope is steep and Colin says it ends in a barrier. It really, really does sound to me that this is contrary to the DDA. By the way, thinking about it the DDA will have positive outcomes for cyclists. The stupid metal barriers on cycleways will have to be removed. Think of the metal barriers which are supposed to conform to a 'cycle' shape and completely block bikes with panniers, trikes, recumbents.... |
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Highgate Bridge
John Hearns wrote:
By the way, thinking about it the DDA will have positive outcomes for cyclists. The stupid metal barriers on cycleways will have to be removed. Think of the metal barriers which are supposed to conform to a 'cycle' shape and completely block bikes with panniers, trikes, recumbents.... Quite. I regularly use the Regent's Canal / Hertford Union Canal / Lea Navigation towpaths. My MTB with panniers will /just/ go through most of them (though one on the Lea is so narrow that its a struggle with the handlebars, which are a good deal narrower than some), but on the one occasion I was obliged to use the towpath with the Speedmachine (road closed, five mile detour via The Death Of The Soul[1] and the North Circular), there was no way it would fit through. And I did my sorely abused back a power of no good lifting it over the barrier at the eastern end of the footbridge at Springfield Marina. Bah! 1 - Edmonton -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ ================================================== ========= Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter http://www.bhpc.org.uk/ ================================================== ========= |
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