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Old July 20th 10, 04:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_3_]
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In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage? Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage. If course, bicycles can't crack paving slabs.

http://london.indymedia.org.uk/articles/5293

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Old July 20th 10, 05:06 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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"Doug" wrote in message
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In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage? Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage. If course, bicycles can't crack paving slabs.

http://london.indymedia.org.uk/articles/5293

Still struggling Doug?

You'll have to do better than this.


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Old July 20th 10, 05:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
R. Mark Clayton
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Almost all offences of violence to persons or property require an element of
intent.

The possible exception is [involuntary] manslaughter.

So no it isn't criminal damage and it certainly isn't if the owner ([Mayor
of] London) asked them to go there.

"Doug" wrote in message
...
In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage? Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage. If course, bicycles can't crack paving slabs.

http://london.indymedia.org.uk/articles/5293

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http://www.zing.icom43.net
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Old July 20th 10, 05:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Albert
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Doug wrote:
In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage? Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage. If course, bicycles can't crack paving slabs.



You can drive on the pavement if directed to do so by a plod
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Old July 20th 10, 05:54 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Norman Wells[_10_]
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Doug wrote:
In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage?


No, you see, you're perfectly entitled to damage your own property if you
want, and it's not criminal to do so. So it can't be criminal damage, can
it?

Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage.


That's because they're damaging other people's property.

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Old July 20th 10, 06:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Tony Dragon
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Doug wrote:
In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage? Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage. If course, bicycles can't crack paving slabs.

http://london.indymedia.org.uk/articles/5293

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http://www.zing.icom43.net
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It must have been a real struggle to come up with rubbish like this,
even by your standards.

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Old July 20th 10, 06:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
nightjar
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Doug wrote:
In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage? ...


I think they could reasonably rely upon the defence of having lawful excuse.

Colin Bignell
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Old July 20th 10, 06:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
nightjar
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R. Mark Clayton wrote:
Almost all offences of violence to persons or property require an element of
intent.


The Criminal Damage Act makes it an offence for a person to be reckless
as to whether or not damage is caused. However, having lawful excuse is
a defence.

Colin Bignell
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Old July 20th 10, 07:15 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
JNugent[_7_]
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Doug wrote:
In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage?


Only if done otherwise than on the instructions of the landowner of Her
lawfully-appointed agent(s).

Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage. If course, bicycles can't crack paving slabs.

http://london.indymedia.org.uk/articles/5293


Not all damage is criminal damage.

If I drill a hole in the wall outside my front door for the purpose of
affixing a house number sign, that's my bisiness. If you did it (and that
would necessarily be without my consent), it's be criminal damage.

See the difference?
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Old July 20th 10, 07:28 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Shaun[_3_]
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On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:56:24 -0700 (PDT), Doug
wrote:

In pictures following the Democracy Village eviction you can now see
the vans of a security firm parked inside the Square on paving slabs
which are frequently cracked by vehicles. It must surely count as
criminal damage? Protesters are frequently arrested for less. Even
applying a sticker to a lamppost is sometimes construed as criminal
damage. If course, bicycles can't crack paving slabs.


You find that cyclists who follow the highway code won't damage the
pavement either

 




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