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On 3/12/2015 3:00 PM, Joerg wrote:

Out here all it takes is a bunch of enraged and seriously soused
rednecks in a pickup truck and you might end up lying in the street
badly hurt. Either from a fist or a front fender, or both. The dudes in
the truck will have vanished without a trace.

My first club ride after moving to California a pick-up truck driver,
enraged that he was delayed by a line of cyclists on a narrow road, hit
two people in the club. Fortunately the injuries were minor. And while
it was a hit and run, he was quickly apprehended. There have been
multiple people killed on that road. One by a quarry truck driver, two
by a sheriff's deputy. The quarry truck driver got a year in jail. The
sheriff's deputy did not time, claiming he fell asleep.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8513728

On Friday, March 13, 2015 at 9:59:12 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 3/12/2015 3:00 PM, Joerg wrote:

Out here all it takes is a bunch of enraged and seriously soused
rednecks in a pickup truck and you might end up lying in the street
badly hurt. Either from a fist or a front fender, or both. The dudes in
the truck will have vanished without a trace.

My first club ride after moving to California a pick-up truck driver,
enraged that he was delayed by a line of cyclists on a narrow road, hit
two people in the club. Fortunately the injuries were minor. And while
it was a hit and run, he was quickly apprehended. There have been
multiple people killed on that road. One by a quarry truck driver, two
by a sheriff's deputy. The quarry truck driver got a year in jail. The
sheriff's deputy did not time, claiming he fell asleep.

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_8513728

Can you find any examples of motorists who got killed while driving in
California? If so, better yell "Danger! Danger!" about driving as well!
And then there are the pedestrians...

Oh, it's a scary world all right!

- Frank Krygowski

On 2015-03-12 8:37 PM, Phil W Lee wrote:

[...]

Yet road positioning has been proven to work, and you refuse to use
that.


Yeah, it works to kill people instantly. Like a rider out here. Car
slowed to turn left, the following driver thought she'd just move into
the right lane then and pass ... "Oh no!" ... SCREEEECH ... *BANG* ...
cyclist dead.

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Regards, Joerg

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