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Old October 16th 14, 08:38 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774
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Old October 16th 14, 09:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Keller[_3_]
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:38:37 +0100, Mrcheerful wrote:

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...-cyclist-died-

after-colliding-with-a-van-as-he-rode-along-in-the-dark-with-no-lights-in-
northampton-1-6359774

You missed out "without a helmet"
Oh, sorry, that is an irrelevancy. Apologies.
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Old October 16th 14, 11:21 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tarcap
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


The sad thing is that they expect others (i.e. motorists, lorry drivers,
councils, etc.) to jump through hoops "in the interests of safety", but they
are too bloody mean to spend a few quid to provide even the most basic
safety equipment.

Darwin at work yet again.


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Old October 16th 14, 08:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Cassandra[_6_]
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:38:37 +0100, Mrcheerful
wrote:

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


He was obviously too snobby to visit the pound shop and was saving up
for those 125 quid cycle lights the psycholists are so keen on
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Old October 16th 14, 09:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On 16/10/2014 20:28, Phil W Lee wrote:

"Tarcap" :
"Mrcheerful" wrote:


Not too surprising that he is dead, really.


http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


The sad thing is that they expect others (i.e. motorists, lorry drivers,
councils, etc.) to jump through hoops "in the interests of safety", but they
are too bloody mean to spend a few quid to provide even the most basic
safety equipment.
Darwin at work yet again.


Presumably you would also be defending the van driver if he'd run down
a pedestrian crossing the road into which he was turning, despite the
pedestrian having the right-of-way and no obligation to use any lights
at all, or even wear anything other than ordinary clothing.


But the van driver *didn't* "run down" the cyclist (according to the
report), did he?
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Old October 16th 14, 10:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:28:20 +0100, Phil W Lee wrote:

"Tarcap" considered Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:21:09
+0100 the perfect time to write:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


The sad thing is that they expect others (i.e. motorists, lorry drivers,
councils, etc.) to jump through hoops "in the interests of safety", but they
are too bloody mean to spend a few quid to provide even the most basic
safety equipment.

Darwin at work yet again.

Presumably you would also be defending the van driver if he'd run down
a pedestrian crossing the road into which he was turning



Oh dear: spot the difference : the cyclist ran into the van.

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Old October 16th 14, 10:11 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On 16/10/2014 22:09, Judith wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:28:20 +0100, Phil W Lee wrote:

"Tarcap" considered Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:21:09
+0100 the perfect time to write:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


The sad thing is that they expect others (i.e. motorists, lorry drivers,
councils, etc.) to jump through hoops "in the interests of safety", but they
are too bloody mean to spend a few quid to provide even the most basic
safety equipment.

Darwin at work yet again.

Presumably you would also be defending the van driver if he'd run down
a pedestrian crossing the road into which he was turning



Oh dear: spot the difference : the cyclist ran into the van.


Riding too fast for the conditions.
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Old October 16th 14, 10:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Cassandra[_6_]
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:28:20 +0100, Phil W Lee
wrote:

"Tarcap" considered Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:21:09
+0100 the perfect time to write:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


The sad thing is that they expect others (i.e. motorists, lorry drivers,
councils, etc.) to jump through hoops "in the interests of safety", but they
are too bloody mean to spend a few quid to provide even the most basic
safety equipment.

Darwin at work yet again.

Presumably you would also be defending the van driver if he'd run down
a pedestrian crossing the road into which he was turning, despite the
pedestrian having the right-of-way and no obligation to use any lights
at all, or even wear anything other than ordinary clothing.


A good point. An innocent pedestrian could have been killed because
they were unable to see an unlit cyclist speeding towards them.
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Old October 16th 14, 10:58 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tony Dragon
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.

On 16/10/2014 20:28, Phil W Lee wrote:
"Tarcap" considered Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:21:09
+0100 the perfect time to write:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


The sad thing is that they expect others (i.e. motorists, lorry drivers,
councils, etc.) to jump through hoops "in the interests of safety", but they
are too bloody mean to spend a few quid to provide even the most basic
safety equipment.

Darwin at work yet again.

Presumably you would also be defending the van driver if he'd run down
a pedestrian crossing the road into which he was turning, despite the
pedestrian having the right-of-way and no obligation to use any lights
at all, or even wear anything other than ordinary clothing.


Please post when this happens, then we will comment.

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Old October 17th 14, 10:32 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tarcap
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Default No lights, dark clothing, no reflectives, no street lights.



"Phil W Lee" wrote in message
...

"Tarcap" considered Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:21:09
+0100 the perfect time to write:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message ...

Not too surprising that he is dead, really.

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/ne...pton-1-6359774


The sad thing is that they expect others (i.e. motorists, lorry drivers,
councils, etc.) to jump through hoops "in the interests of safety", but
they
are too bloody mean to spend a few quid to provide even the most basic
safety equipment.

Darwin at work yet again.

Presumably you would also be defending the van driver if he'd run down
a pedestrian crossing the road into which he was turning, despite the
pedestrian having the right-of-way and no obligation to use any lights
at all, or even wear anything other than ordinary clothing.

I'm struggling to get any useful meaning out of your post.
Did you not realise that it's compulsory for cyclists to have lights, which
is not the case for pedestrians?
Why have you introduced pedestrian crossings into the scenario, when there
was no mention of such in the article?
Other than in a futile attempt to divert blame away from the cyclist, of
course.
Methinks you are up to your usual trick of employing Bovine Scatology to
further the psycholist cause.


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