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Old December 9th 03, 10:58 AM
Mark Thompson
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Anyone see it in the paper the otherday? Idiot on phone, pulling out of a
junction he shouldn't have been using managed not to see the motorbike
rider. 1 dead rider and one dangerous driver off the streets for 5 years
(well, I suppose 3ish?). Was wondering if the new mobile phone legislation
enabled the relatively high sentence to be given?

See, they can give out proper sentences after all, even if the victim is on
two wheels! Now all we have to do is convince them that killing someone
without an engine is just as bad.

Any suggestions as to what it'll be reduced to when he appeals?


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Old December 9th 03, 11:06 AM
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See, they can give out proper sentences after all, even if the victim is on
two wheels! Now all we have to do is convince them that killing someone
without an engine is just as bad.


The difference is, possibly and sadly (in the sense of someone dying), the
victim was on a *motor*cycle. I have a feeling that if the vistim had been a
non-motorised cyclist, a 60 fine and three points on the licence might have
been the sentence :-(

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Old December 9th 03, 11:19 AM
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Was wondering if the new mobile phone legislation
enabled the relatively high sentence to be given?


5 years for killing someone relatively high? Through stupidity, neglect and
selfishness. I don't think so. Loss of licence for life and double that
sentence.


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Old December 9th 03, 12:54 PM
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nobody760 wrote:

Was wondering if the new mobile phone legislation
enabled the relatively high sentence to be given?

5 years for killing someone relatively high? Through stupidity, neglect and
selfishness. I don't think so. Loss of licence for life and double that
sentence.


Quite.

The killer will be out in three to wreak further carnage of other innocent
road users.
It is sickeningly short.

It doesn't matter who is killed the motorist is rarely given a deserving
sentence.

Is it because those setting sentencing and administering the law are all
petrolheads themselves and of course, motorists can never do wrong can they.

John B



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Old December 9th 03, 01:18 PM
Just zis Guy, you know?
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"dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers" wrote in
message ...

The difference is, possibly and sadly (in the sense of someone dying), the
victim was on a *motor*cycle. I have a feeling that if the vistim had been

a
non-motorised cyclist, a 60 fine and three points on the licence might

have
been the sentence :-(



Don't exaggerate - the going rate is six points and 250, with no ban if you
hit the totting-up limit obviously. I wish that were a joke, but it isn't.

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Old December 9th 03, 01:54 PM
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"Mark Thompson" (change warm for hot)
wrote in message ...
Anyone see it in the paper the otherday? Idiot on phone, pulling out of a
junction he shouldn't have been using managed not to see the motorbike
rider. 1 dead rider and one dangerous driver off the streets for 5 years
(well, I suppose 3ish?). Was wondering if the new mobile phone

legislation
enabled the relatively high sentence to be given?

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cri...p?story=471500

5 years in jail, 5 years ban.

Now 5 years in jail is pretty severe, but why only a five year ban?

Why not a lifetime ban, unlike jail a lifetime ban doesn't cost the tax
payer anything.


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Old December 9th 03, 07:01 PM
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*motor*cycle. I have a feeling that if the vistim had been
a
non-motorised cyclist, a 60 fine and three points on the licence


As the guy moaning about the removal of the cycle lane in Barnet, it was
on that stretch of road that I was knocked off my self-restored
concourse condition Lambretta on its first trip since restoration, three
years ago.

The driver, who was prosecuted, received a 200 fine and 5 points on his
license, despite being blind! (no joke)

I, on the otherhand, received, a severely smashed leg which I still have
problems with.



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Old December 10th 03, 12:57 AM
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Sue him. Ok the insurance will pay for it, but he'll lose any no-claims
discount he may have had. Weird how they let legally 'blind' people
drive, but demonise talking on the phone... Strange world.

Well, this was my thoughts. however, my solicitor would have nothing to
do with it. Wouldnt even advise me. He has now been sacked.

I do not believe that justice has been done, so if anyone knows of a way
I can go about it I would be very interested. But, bear in mind, this
blind w***er was an immigrant, and as they are allowed to drive however
they wish with absolution from Msr. Blair to absolve some white guilt
that he possesses, eyesight or not, it was obviously my fault, for being
british and in the way.



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Old December 10th 03, 10:25 AM
Mark Thompson
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Sue him. Ok the insurance will pay for it, but he'll lose any no-claims
discount he may have had. Weird how they let legally 'blind' people
drive, but demonise talking on the phone... Strange world.

Well, this was my thoughts. however, my solicitor would have nothing to
do with it. Wouldnt even advise me. He has now been sacked.

I do not believe that justice has been done, so if anyone knows of a way
I can go about it I would be very interested.


Most people round here seem to phone the CTC legal helpline, but I presume
you're not a member. You could try a specialist personal injury solicitor
thingy. No win no fee dooberry's can make it pretty much risk free for you
(unless you decide you can't be bothered with it all in the middle of the
case), at the expense of taking a little of your compensation should you win
the case. Should you go down that route some of them can be a bit of a con
so read the small print and ask questions. Nowadays they can claim most of
their costs from the insurers so not that much needs to be taken from your
winnings.

Since most of your claim for compensation will rest on the long term damge
to your leg it'll be quite involved for you - your expert medical bod will
want to examine you and so will the other sides, possibly more thn once
(just to be difficult). The whole thing will take a fair while to do but at
the end of it you'll probably have a reasonable sized cheque at the end of
it.

Oh, one other thing. Don't go with any of te companies that market
aggressively on TV or by stopping people in the street. They use several
solicitors who have to takeon a certain percentage of cases that pass over
their desks. There is a temptation to take on cases that may be a little
dodgy so they don't lose their contract. Most solicitors will do some form
of no win no fee funding and its bad reputation is pretty much undeserved.

Let us know if you decide to go ahead with it.

Mark


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Old January 6th 04, 12:03 AM
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On 10 Dec 2003 05:51:59 +1050, Rabs
wrote:

*motor*cycle. I have a feeling that if the vistim had been
a
non-motorised cyclist, a 60 fine and three points on the licence

As the guy moaning about the removal of the cycle lane in Barnet, it was
on that stretch of road that I was knocked off my self-restored
concourse condition Lambretta on its first trip since restoration, three
years ago.

The driver, who was prosecuted, received a 200 fine and 5 points on his
license, despite being blind! (no joke)

I, on the otherhand, received, a severely smashed leg which I still have
problems with.

Sue him.
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