Why are Cannondale welds so smooth?

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:40:19 GMT, Ryan Cousineau wrote:

BTW, I'm recommending this to all my friends:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...073#long_descr

Retrogrouches, thrill to the quill stem, non-brifter shifting, and
classic weight (listed 29 pounds). That said, I think this bike has real
potential: 29 pounds is about 6 pounds heavier than a guideline
Sora-equipped bike, but a fair bit of that is in the components.

"a 21-speed drive train by the technicians at Shimano" -- 3x7 doesn't say
much, but I wonder if it's not a Tourney bike (despite the Road
character). If I look very carefully, I think I can see grip-shift
shifters (and actually reading the copy, which is much easier, I see them
even saying Revo Twist Shifters, which are Tourney-group shifters intended
for flat bars, here mounted on the little flat bit just beside the stem).
So. It's an MTB build with a road frame geometry, drop bars, drop brake
levers, and caliper brakes -- this is what makes it so cheap. It probably
is indexed, at least rear. What I'd want to know most is whether the hub
is freewheel or freehub. It's nutted, but that doesn't mean everything.
.... Given that Tourney only has freewheels (6&7) in it, it's a fair bet
it's a freewheel.

The components are actually not bad for the price, amazingly enough. That
sort of price I'd have guessed to be the domain of 6 speed freewheels and
random-manufacturer components rather than a semi-coherent drivetrain
(even if it is an MTB drivetrain).


Jasper

On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 22:39:31 GMT, Ryan Cousineau wrote:

Actually, twist-grip road shifters were made by SRAM very early on. In
1989, with no competition from STI or Ergo quite yet, they were quite
popular.

The road versions are gone, but there are a few cultists who wish they
weren't. They'll probably be quite pleased to see these ones.

These are as far as I can see not road twist-grip shifters. They're just
cleverly mounted. Frankly, I'd just as soon have tourney top mount
shifters (http://harriscyclery.net/site/itemdetails.cfm?ID=1024) but it
seems those are discontinued, at least they don't show up on shimano.com,
and they don't 'starting at $6.95' anymore either. The completely
non-indexed, non-display type could be just the thing for those people who
like downtube shifters except they're too far away.

Jasper

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:20:25 -0600, wrote:

It is!

Or rather, was:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ... 4#long_descr

The tapered-end gaspipe of the classic Fury Roadmaster is 43
mm wide on the downtube and 38 mm thick on the top tube.

Each untapered leg of the fork is a robust 32 mm wide, the
same as the main frame tubes on my 1998 chrome-moly Schwinn
LeTour touring bike.

There is a slight weight and aerodynamic penalty, but as
Butch Cassidy remarked, that's a small price to pay for
beauty.

If I ever visit the US again, I want one. When the time comes, someone
will tell me where to go for a nice $50 bike, yes?

Jasper

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:20:25 -0600, wrote:

Or rather, was:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ... 4#long_descr

The tapered-end gaspipe of the classic Fury Roadmaster is 43
mm wide on the downtube and 38 mm thick on the top tube.

Each untapered leg of the fork is a robust 32 mm wide, the
same as the main frame tubes on my 1998 chrome-moly Schwinn
LeTour touring bike.

There is a slight weight and aerodynamic penalty, but as
Butch Cassidy remarked, that's a small price to pay for
beauty.

How is the current Mt Fury different, besides $4?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...A133073%3A5304


Jasper

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:56:55 GMT, Jasper Janssen
wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:20:25 -0600, wrote:

Or rather, was:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ... 4#long_descr

The tapered-end gaspipe of the classic Fury Roadmaster is 43
mm wide on the downtube and 38 mm thick on the top tube.

Each untapered leg of the fork is a robust 32 mm wide, the
same as the main frame tubes on my 1998 chrome-moly Schwinn
LeTour touring bike.

There is a slight weight and aerodynamic penalty, but as
Butch Cassidy remarked, that's a small price to pay for
beauty.

How is the current Mt Fury different, besides $4?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...A133073%3A5304


Jasper

Dear Jasper,

Your link is to the same bike.

My link was just to when the Fury Roadmaster was temporarily
out of stock, having been gobbled up by a clientele maddened
by the temporary $4 price reduction and desperate to replace
steeds ruined during a recent three-week televised ride in
France.

Note that the proud Roadmaster line also includes this
handsome quadricycle:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...510#long_descr

"Made with all-steel hardware, sturdy 8" rubber tires,
rounded edges for safety and a no-pinch handle design . . ."

Carl Fogel

cannondual hired luigi?

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:46:43 GMT, Jasper Janssen wrote:

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 02:40:19 GMT, Ryan Cousineau wrote:

BTW, I'm recommending this to all my friends:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...073#long_descr

Retrogrouches, thrill to the quill stem, non-brifter shifting, and
classic weight (listed 29 pounds). That said, I think this bike has real
potential: 29 pounds is about 6 pounds heavier than a guideline
Sora-equipped bike, but a fair bit of that is in the components.

"a 21-speed drive train by the technicians at Shimano" -- 3x7 doesn't say
much, but I wonder if it's not a Tourney bike (despite the Road
character). If I look very carefully, I think I can see grip-shift
shifters (and actually reading the copy, which is much easier, I see them
even saying Revo Twist Shifters, which are Tourney-group shifters intended
for flat bars, here mounted on the little flat bit just beside the stem).
So. It's an MTB build with a road frame geometry, drop bars, drop brake
levers, and caliper brakes -- this is what makes it so cheap. It probably
is indexed, at least rear. What I'd want to know most is whether the hub
is freewheel or freehub. It's nutted, but that doesn't mean everything.
... Given that Tourney only has freewheels (6&7) in it, it's a fair bet
it's a freewheel.

The components are actually not bad for the price, amazingly enough. That
sort of price I'd have guessed to be the domain of 6 speed freewheels and
random-manufacturer components rather than a semi-coherent drivetrain
(even if it is an MTB drivetrain).

Why do I see this bike and think that some sort of race/competition/performance
art should be invented to suit its unique qualifications. PsychloCross? Sorta
like CX but on a course that has no regard for the survival of the bikes or
dignity of the riders? Points for style, distance and size of impact crater?
Prize for most paint removed in a single lap? Penalty for not leaving parts
behind?

Can we get a series going? Find sponsors? Why am I typing like this?

Ron

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:49:05 GMT, RonSonic
wrote:

Why do I see this bike and think that some sort of race/competition/performance
art should be invented to suit its unique qualifications. PsychloCross? Sorta
like CX but on a course that has no regard for the survival of the bikes or
dignity of the riders? Points for style, distance and size of impact crater?
Prize for most paint removed in a single lap? Penalty for not leaving parts
behind?

Demolition Derby on Roadmaster Fury bikes!


Jasper

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 12:29:34 -0600, wrote:
On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 15:56:55 GMT, Jasper Janssen
wrote:
On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 15:20:25 -0600, wrote:

Or rather, was:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ... 4#long_descr


How is the current Mt Fury different, besides $4?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...A133073%3A5304

Your link is to the same bike.

My link was just to when the Fury Roadmaster was temporarily
out of stock, having been gobbled up by a clientele maddened
by the temporary $4 price reduction and desperate to replace
steeds ruined during a recent three-week televised ride in
France.

Ah, ok. I was confused by your 'was'.

Note that the proud Roadmaster line also includes this
handsome quadricycle:

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...510#long_descr

"Made with all-steel hardware, sturdy 8" rubber tires,
rounded edges for safety and a no-pinch handle design . . ."

Nice. Now hook it up to the Fury as a trailer!

Jasper

On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:53:32 GMT, Jasper Janssen wrote:

On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 23:49:05 GMT, RonSonic
wrote:

Why do I see this bike and think that some sort of race/competition/performance
art should be invented to suit its unique qualifications. PsychloCross? Sorta
like CX but on a course that has no regard for the survival of the bikes or
dignity of the riders? Points for style, distance and size of impact crater?
Prize for most paint removed in a single lap? Penalty for not leaving parts
behind?

Demolition Derby on Roadmaster Fury bikes!

With some downhill mixed in. Gotta have some drops, too.

Ron