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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 1/2/2017 7:33 PM, John B. wrote:
Question: How much tire pressure are you running? I used gatorskins for a while and never had any sidewall problems. We've had Gatorskins on our tandem for a couple years now. No sidewall problems, and (knock wood) no flats yet. But I suspect I'm quite a bit more careful than Joerg. Admittedly, one reason I'm more careful is that I have a stoker who can smack me at will! The first rule for a tandem captain is "Don't upset the stoker." -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
tight ? how long are these tires lasting ? divide by cost
buy a new frame for 35-32 you have the wong tire consult Conti...uneeda commuter in 32 |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 4:45:56 PM UTC-8, JQ wrote:
On 1/2/2017 7:33 PM, John B. wrote: On Mon, 02 Jan 2017 15:09:21 -0800, Joerg wrote: My last but one Gatorskin went, side wall damage, the usual. The side wall on the rear tire looks iffy already and if that blows I'd have no more spare for it. So it's time to refill the basement stack. Unfortunately the CST Correre only comes in 700c*23mm. This leaves the Gatorskin Hardshell with supposedly better side walls but ... the 700c*25 beaded is $48, ouch, too much. To my surprise the foldable is "only" $39. Why is that? I don't want the normal Gatorskins anymore because the side walls are too flimsy. If anyone knows about another new tire that is very puncture resistant and low cost that would be nice. Weight does not matter and heavier is usually better. Question: How much tire pressure are you running? I used gatorskins for a while and never had any sidewall problems. As an aside, I had just as many punctures with gatorskins as I've had with normal tires :-) But granted, we don't have any of those thorns that you talk about. I started using tire liners and I have been very pleased with them. Only had one flat because I ran over a board with a long tack. You are able to run the tire down much further than you could without the liners making the cheaper tires work just as well. I haven't noticed a performance loss either! JQ - do you have a reference for those liners? I can't remember seeing them anywhere. |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 5:38:37 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/2/2017 7:21 PM, Joerg wrote: I'd like 28mm but it won't fit in my frame. 23mm is too iffy because of numerous required offroad stints and the occasional heavy load. I'm still amazed by the number of bikes that can't accept a 28mm tire. I see no advantage to building that limitation into a bike. Yet another advantage of older steel frames. |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 8:42:10 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/2/2017 7:33 PM, John B. wrote: Question: How much tire pressure are you running? I used gatorskins for a while and never had any sidewall problems. We've had Gatorskins on our tandem for a couple years now. No sidewall problems, and (knock wood) no flats yet. But I suspect I'm quite a bit more careful than Joerg. Admittedly, one reason I'm more careful is that I have a stoker who can smack me at will! The first rule for a tandem captain is "Don't upset the stoker." -- - Frank Krygowski the Lake Effect |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-03 06:27, wrote:
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 5:38:37 PM UTC-8, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 1/2/2017 7:21 PM, Joerg wrote: I'd like 28mm but it won't fit in my frame. 23mm is too iffy because of numerous required offroad stints and the occasional heavy load. I'm still amazed by the number of bikes that can't accept a 28mm tire. I see no advantage to building that limitation into a bike. Yet another advantage of older steel frames. This _is_ a steel frame and 1982 should count as old, Gazelle Trim Trophy. This frame: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/234710/ 28mm would go through there but only if the rear wheel is 110% true. Due to a lot of offroad use it never is. In the front anything goes through. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-02 18:46, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
tight ? how long are these tires lasting ? divide by cost Gatorskins last 2500mi on the rear which is better than the (much lower cost) Vredesteins I used to ride. But $50 is too much. buy a new frame for 35-32 Yeah, right, throw everything away and buy new. you have the wong tire consult Conti...uneeda commuter in 32 Last time I wrote to Conti they didn't even bother to answer. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-03 06:21, wrote:
On Monday, January 2, 2017 at 4:21:52 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2017-01-02 15:45, wrote: [...] ... All of the reviews on them are good but the tire is still new yet. Amazon wants almost $59 for the 25mmm. Yikes! https://www.amazon.com/Michelin-Pro4...E4O?th=1&psc=1 I don't mind being the test rider if the specs are good. But not at $59. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ I am pretty sure that they had the 25 when I put that not out. Man, the word should have gone out pretty fast. I bought a set of the 23's to test. The Gatorskins are OK but they are pretty stiff and don't corner all that well. ... I don't care much about cornering since most of my stretches on the road bike are straight shots for miles and miles. Curves are mostly gentle like this: https://www.traillink.com/photos/ame..._1802_trlc.jpg An extreme is this bike path where you have to watch not to fall asleep over the handlebar: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._bike_path.jpg There's too much glass on the roads around here to have anything other than a reinforced tire. Here as well but of more concern are goat's head thorns. Only the best Kevlar-armed tires survive and only if you run extra thick tubes. An issue are the notoriously weak side walls of even expensive tires. It takes only one thorn to flip over or to get in while leaning into a curve. The tube damage is often so bad that it can be fixed reliably and with my tubes that's $15-20 worth of damage every time. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Beaded tires higher cost than folding, why?
On 2017-01-02 17:42, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/2/2017 7:33 PM, John B. wrote: Question: How much tire pressure are you running? I used gatorskins for a while and never had any sidewall problems. We've had Gatorskins on our tandem for a couple years now. No sidewall problems, and (knock wood) no flats yet. But I suspect I'm quite a bit more careful than Joerg. The main reason is probably that you guys don't have these thorns laying around everywhe https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...te_003_lhp.jpg Admittedly, one reason I'm more careful is that I have a stoker who can smack me at will! The first rule for a tandem captain is "Don't upset the stoker." I found that stokers are on the cell phone a lot. Tandems can be difficult to pass during commute hours and sometimes I had to stay behind one long enough to overhear heated conversations via phone. "Now how often do I have to tell you NOT TO DO that!?" and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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