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Priority to be given to pedestrians and cyclists over cars?
On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:36:29 +0000 (UTC), "al_Mossah"
in wrote: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...868038,00.html I'm sure that as this is not focusing on speed, it will get full support from our "friends" on uk.tosspot. From the website: "Another would see more puffin crossings, which detect pedestrians and turn lights against cars as people approach." I have often dreamed of a type of crossing where the motorist has to wind his[1] window downand press a button (with a biro ude to the button being covered with chewing gum), and then wait for eternity. I hope this happens. Love and dreams from Rich x [1] This is an almost politically correct term, since the "H" is extracted from "Her" and the "IS" is extracted from "His". -- "Netiquette" states that a signature should be no more than four lines long. |
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Priority to be given to pedestrians and cyclists over cars?
Well, I'll believe when I see it, but this will go someway towards
correcting the assumption that car journeys should have priority over pedstrian and cycling journeys (Government policy since about 1700 when the plebs cringed by the side of the road whilst the horse and carriages of the "important" people went by). The situation today is that the enlightened company director waits for ever for the pedestrian lights to change whilst Sierra Man with his understated stereo system and thoughtfully-removed exhaust pipe blocks her way.... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...868038,00.html I'm sure that as this is not focusing on speed, it will get full support from our "friends" on uk.tosspot. Peter |
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Sierra Man? Mini Woman, more like...
Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ ================================================== ========= Editor - British Human Power Club Newsletter http://www.bhpc.org.uk/ ================================================== ========= |
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"al_Mossah" wrote in message
... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...868038,00.html I don't mind cyclists being given priority over cars, but I don't want to be the victim of increased red phases at lights! Rich |
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al_Mossah wrote:
Well, I'll believe when I see it, but this will go someway towards correcting the assumption that car journeys should have priority over pedstrian and cycling journeys (Government policy since about 1700 when the plebs cringed by the side of the road whilst the horse and carriages of the "important" people went by). The situation today is that the enlightened company director waits for ever for the pedestrian lights to change whilst Sierra Man with his understated stereo system and thoughtfully-removed exhaust pipe blocks her way.... http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFr...868038,00.html I'm sure that as this is not focusing on speed, it will get full support from our "friends" on uk.tosspot. Peter If it's done sensibly, so traffic doesn't grind to a complete halt for a drip feed (or even an absense) of peds, then great. But in all honesty, I don't think it will make one jot of difference anyway - who waits two minutes waiting for a crossing to stop traffic when then don't have to? Peds just seem intent on wandering into the road anyway. As an aside - how will this give cyclists priority over cars? They'll still have to stop at the rephased signals anyway, which won't detect cycles anyway (like many sensor operated signals), and will thus suffer the same disadvantages over cars, but for what benefit? I don't object to the principle, but I get the impression that someone has just assumed this is a good idea, without actually thinking about it :-S |
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On Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:16:06 +0000, Nathaniel David Porter
wrote: If it's done sensibly, so traffic doesn't grind to a complete halt for a drip feed (or even an absense) of peds, then great. But in all honesty, I don't think it will make one jot of difference anyway - who waits two minutes waiting for a crossing to stop traffic when then don't have to? Peds just seem intent on wandering into the road anyway. I see plenty of peds waiting at crossings on busy roads where they have no choice but to wait. As an aside - how will this give cyclists priority over cars? They'll still have to stop at the rephased signals anyway, which won't detect cycles anyway (like many sensor operated signals), and will thus suffer the same disadvantages over cars, but for what benefit? The aspects of crossings detailed in this article don't help cyclists, however, the tenor of the report is that cyclists should have priority over other road traffic. Schemes to implement this aren't discussed, it is a short piece about walking rather than cycling. I don't object to the principle, but I get the impression that someone has just assumed this is a good idea, without actually thinking about it Did you read the bit about this report citing experimental schemes in various places? Ie the report is based on working examples of such schemes not assumptions. Colin |
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"Nathaniel David Porter" wrote in message ... As an aside - how will this give cyclists priority over cars? Rephased Toucan crossings where cycle paths cross roads. They'll still have to stop at the rephased signals anyway, which won't detect cycles anyway (like many sensor operated signals), and will thus suffer the same disadvantages over cars, but for what benefit? Only if you insist on cycling on the road -- in which case you deserve all you get!! I don't object to the principle, but I get the impression that someone has just assumed this is a good idea, without actually thinking about it :-S Probably true. T Definitely contains traces of irony!! |
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al_Mossah wrote:
Well, I'll believe when I see it, but this will go someway towards correcting the assumption that car journeys should have priority over pedstrian and cycling journeys (Government policy since about 1700 when the plebs cringed by the side of the road whilst the horse and carriages of the "important" people went by). However "How the strategy is applied will be left to local authorities" and we all know how good they are about matters cycling. Tony -- "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Mark Twain |
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at the keyboard of "al_Mossah" wrote: "important" people went by). The situation today is that the enlightened company director waits for ever for the pedestrian lights to change whilst We have precedents for good practice, even in this country. When I lived in Sheffield (early '90s, pre-supertram) I never had to wait more than a few seconds for the green pedestrian after pressing the button. Yet the overall flow of road traffic didn't suffer, either! -- Axis of Evil: Whose economy needs ever more wars? Arms Exports $bn: USA 14.2, UK 5.1, vs France 1.5, Germany 0.8 (The Economist, July 2002) |
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Priority to be given to pedestrians and cyclists over cars?
I don't object to the principle, but I get the impression that someone
has just assumed this is a good idea, without actually thinking about it Did you read the bit about this report citing experimental schemes in various places? Ie the report is based on working examples of such schemes not assumptions. And the bit about being gestated (sp?) for 6 years. While the policy is potentially an excellent idea, the local councils will be putting it into action, which ensures that its implementation will be, in most cases, badly flawed. The local councils will assume this is a good idea, without actually thinking about it.[1] Mark. But as with everything I say in a newsgroup this is a generalisation, and I do not wish to tar all council employees with the same brush. Councillors, on the other hand... |
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