OUCH

Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out
with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out
with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both
cyclist and car at fault.

On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out
with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both
cyclist and car at fault.



What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better,
bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing
behind.

The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car
crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means
your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down.

Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just
because they don't have an engine?

That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist
or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering
to signal.

The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out
because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist.

100% the drivers fault.

Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out
with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal,
both cyclist and car at fault.



What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better,
bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing
behind.

The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car
crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means
your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down.

Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just
because they don't have an engine?

That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the
cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit
without bothering to signal.

The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out
because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist.

100% the drivers fault.

I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into
them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that
is just part of using the roads. If the cyclist had been taking sufficient
care the crash would not have occurred, likewise if the car had been more
cautious the crash would not have happened, both parties are at fault. It
is no good being 'in the right' if you crash into something, whether you are
in a car or not. But if you are very vulnerable like a cyclist then it
makes even more sense to ride very cautiously and with massive forethought.

As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on
approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is
less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and
proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car
driver and was certain it was staying put.

On Mar 10, 9:34*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on
approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is
less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and
proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car
driver and was certain it was staying put.- Hide quoted text -
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So you'd drive more slowly than that cyclist there? Care to estimate a
number (in mph) that you would deem suitable?

And as for eye contact, do you then drive even more slowly at night?

Do you ever consider that as it is onl;y you, you could be wrong?

On 10/03/2011 09:34, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out
with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal,
both cyclist and car at fault.



What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better,
bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing
behind.

The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car
crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means
your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down.

Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just
because they don't have an engine?

That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the
cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit
without bothering to signal.

The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out
because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist.

100% the drivers fault.

I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into
them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that
is just part of using the roads.


Nope. There are THOUSANDS of accidents on our roads due to this type of
behaviour, how many of them got the blame for the other party pulling
out in front of them?


If the cyclist had been taking sufficient
care the crash would not have occurred,


Rubbish, save the vid to your favourite media player and see how much
time the cyclist had to react once the driver crossed the line, then
remember your highway code for thinking and braking distances when
trying to stop.



likewise if the car had been more
cautious the crash would not have happened, both parties are at fault.

By the looks of the comments the DRIVER was the one prosecuted, not
both, and the coppers had the evidence to prove it was only one parties
fault, the motorist.



It
is no good being 'in the right' if you crash into something, whether you are
in a car or not. But if you are very vulnerable like a cyclist then it
makes even more sense to ride very cautiously and with massive forethought.

As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on
approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is
less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and
proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car
driver and was certain it was staying put.



Look at the vid again, none of the cars seen were indicating, especially
the bloke pulling out in front of the cyclist, yet the cyclist was at
fault for not indicating?

Very twisted logic.


Let's hope you are never seen anywhere near a crash investigation.

Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 09:34, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go
out with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal,
both cyclist and car at fault.



What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better,
bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably
nothing behind.

The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car
crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means
your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down.

Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just
because they don't have an engine?

That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the
cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit
without bothering to signal.

The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out
because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist.

100% the drivers fault.

I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't
crash into them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you
are taking, that is just part of using the roads.


Nope. There are THOUSANDS of accidents on our roads due to this type
of behaviour, how many of them got the blame for the other party
pulling out in front of them?


If the cyclist had been taking sufficient
care the crash would not have occurred,



remember your highway code for thinking and braking distances when
trying to stop.

I am glad to see you agree that the cyclist was travelling too fast for the
situation.

On 11/03/2011 06:46, Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 09:34, Mrcheerful wrote:
Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out
with their helmet cams looking for trouble.

riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal,
both cyclist and car at fault.



What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better,
bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing
behind.

The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car
crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means
your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down.

Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just
because they don't have an engine?

That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the
cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit
without bothering to signal.

The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out
because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist.

100% the drivers fault.

I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into
them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that
is just part of using the roads.


Nope. There are THOUSANDS of accidents on our roads due to this type of
behaviour, how many of them got the blame for the other party pulling out in
front of them?


If the cyclist had been taking sufficient
care the crash would not have occurred,


Rubbish, save the vid to your favourite media player and see how much time
the cyclist had to react once the driver crossed the line, then remember your
highway code for thinking and braking distances when trying to stop.



likewise if the car had been more
cautious the crash would not have happened, both parties are at fault.

By the looks of the comments the DRIVER was the one prosecuted, not both, and
the coppers had the evidence to prove it was only one parties fault, the
motorist.



It
is no good being 'in the right' if you crash into something, whether you are
in a car or not. But if you are very vulnerable like a cyclist then it
makes even more sense to ride very cautiously and with massive forethought.

As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on
approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is
less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and
proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car
driver and was certain it was staying put.



Look at the vid again, none of the cars seen were indicating, especially the
bloke pulling out in front of the cyclist, yet the cyclist was at fault for
not indicating?

Very twisted logic.


Let's hope you are never seen anywhere near a crash investigation.

Do be careful not to offer personal abuse when posting, dear chap.

Your attitude to it is decidedly odd. You see it where it doesn't exist and
fail to see it when you resort to it.

On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:05:15 +0000, Phil W Lee wrote:

snip


Your logic(?) dictates that if (when?) someone beats you to a bloody
pulp with a pick-axe handle, it will be your own fault for not running
away fast enough.
I really really hope that you get the opportunity to test this.
You deprive civilised people of oxygen they deserve.


What a tosser

--
If the *******s won't do anything about the taxi driver risking
people's lives by dangerous driving, book him to take your kids on a
trip, then report him for kiddy-fiddling. He'll never drive a taxi
again.
Phil W Lee 6 February 2011

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:19:46 +0000
Judith wrote:

On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:05:15 +0000, Phil W Lee
wrote:
Your logic(?) dictates that if (when?) someone beats you to a bloody
pulp with a pick-axe handle, it will be your own fault for not
running away fast enough.
I really really hope that you get the opportunity to test this.
You deprive civilised people of oxygen they deserve.


What a tosser

That may be true, but he has a point.