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  #51  
Old April 1st 08, 02:13 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Sorry I couldn't answer back. I was doing WORK as opposed to living
my life in a bubble called vandeworld on the net where you can pretend
to do good. When not in work, I usually log on for a few moments to
rattle your cage then enjoy the outdoors. One day you will have to
actually go out and enjoy them. they really are fun!

Now...My name...Do some research you asshole. here's an article
written by me in one of the various specialities I have as a human
being.. not just lunch lady Bach of arts like yours you coward. I am
very real. have a name. not afraid to show it. Not afraid to step on
toes to people that are frauds and portray one image in the public eye
that they are the truist of the true in regards to environmentalism
yet talk a big talk and then do the opposite. That's you. Interesting
that you are still calling all other responders liars...cracks me up.
Enjoy the article. when we have time I will sit down and explain it
and how it relates to healthcare, how it is used in research of
medications and disease processes, how it applies to various other
areas that you will never understand or comprehend including doing
research in a lab using other techniques that prevent research on
animals, etc. And you can maybe help me work out a dinner or lunch for
the patient based on your specialty.


http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...TRY=1&SRETRY=0

There are numerous other articles by me online for various things
including a website I run...which is filled with no quotes from
others. You are a complete fraud...who has yet to answer any
questions asked to you. Asked straight up about flying and you can't
answer it...i didn't say I was flying...just walking. what the
hell?!? The reason you find every excuse possible to avoid questions
is because you just don't have the guts to speak up and be honest.
Just fess up and say...I don't like MtBers and these are my opinions
about it...not this FACTS bull****. You can't even answer a simple
question let alone provide legit material. If you were honest from day
one...it would be much easier! But you're just an ass.

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  #52  
Old April 1st 08, 02:55 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
wrote:

On Mar 31, 4:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane





wrote:
On Mar 31, 12:11*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Mar 30, 5:32*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:11:53 -0700 (PDT), "


wrote:
How is it that everyone on the net is a liar but you?


There you go, LYING again. I never said that. I only said that YOU are
a liar, which is by now OBVIOUS.


*because you are


a liar. The proof is everywhere on google here. You state I don't put
examples...Holy **** are you even serious. There are constant
examples! *They are slapping you in the face and you still
scream..LIAR! You're insane or at the least BiPolar. *No lies by me
because I don't need to lie. You admit to flying to conferences.


No, I didn't. Where's your EVIDENCE? As usuan, NOWHERE to be found.


So tell us how you got to Australia?


What for? That's your job. No one else is interested.


That's is a lie, there are at least 3 people who are interested, seems
you are afraid to answer the question lest you be outed as a selfish
FRAUD!


BS. You aren't a person. People have names. You haven't provided
yours. That proves that you are dishonest from the beginning, and not
worth communicating with.



Wow Mike, you're really digging deep to come up with excuses, don't
want to be made out a fake enviromentalist I suppose.

My name? In your own words "Do your own research".


QED. Deliberate deception. Everything you say is therefore WORTHLESS
which we knew already).
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #53  
Old April 1st 08, 02:55 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:16:59 GMT, "Mike" wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
wrote:

On Mar 31, 12:11 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane





wrote:
On Mar 30, 5:32 pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:11:53 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:
How is it that everyone on the net is a liar but you?

There you go, LYING again. I never said that. I only said that YOU are
a liar, which is by now OBVIOUS.

because you are

a liar. The proof is everywhere on google here. You state I don't put
examples...Holy **** are you even serious. There are constant
examples! They are slapping you in the face and you still
scream..LIAR! You're insane or at the least BiPolar. No lies by me
because I don't need to lie. You admit to flying to conferences.

No, I didn't. Where's your EVIDENCE? As usuan, NOWHERE to be found.

So tell us how you got to Australia?

What for? That's your job. No one else is interested.

That's is a lie, there are at least 3 people who are interested, seems
you are afraid to answer the question lest you be outed as a selfish
FRAUD!


BS. You aren't a person. People have names. You haven't provided
yours. That proves that you are dishonest from the beginning, and not
worth communicating with.



Your turn first. I don't believe who you say you are so you need to show
some ID. I want to see your drivers license, social security card and one
major credit card all with your name on them. If you can't provide these items
of identification it just proves you are a lying scumbag who can't be trusted.


QED. Deliberate deception. Everything you say is therefore WORTHLESS
which we knew already).
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #54  
Old April 1st 08, 03:03 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:13:26 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Sorry I couldn't answer back. I was doing WORK as opposed to living
my life in a bubble called vandeworld on the net where you can pretend
to do good. When not in work, I usually log on for a few moments to
rattle your cage then enjoy the outdoors. One day you will have to
actually go out and enjoy them. they really are fun!

Now...My name...Do some research you asshole.



QED. Deliberate deception. Everything you say is therefore WORTHLESS
(which we knew already).

here's an article
written by me in one of the various specialities I have as a human
being.. not just lunch lady Bach of arts like yours you coward.


More LIES.

I am
very real. have a name. not afraid to show it. Not afraid to step on
toes to people that are frauds and portray one image in the public eye
that they are the truist of the true in regards to environmentalism
yet talk a big talk and then do the opposite. That's you. Interesting
that you are still calling all other responders liars...cracks me up.
Enjoy the article. when we have time I will sit down and explain it
and how it relates to healthcare, how it is used in research of
medications and disease processes, how it applies to various other
areas that you will never understand or comprehend including doing
research in a lab using other techniques that prevent research on
animals, etc. And you can maybe help me work out a dinner or lunch for
the patient based on your specialty.


http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...TRY=1&SRETRY=0


Broken link, OF COURSE. Just like you.

There are numerous other articles by me online for various things
including a website I run


Which is so important that even Google doesn't know about it! The only
things that come up are your inane comments in a few newsgroups, like
this one. What are you hiding from?

....which is filled with no quotes from
others. You are a complete fraud...who has yet to answer any
questions asked to you. Asked straight up about flying and you can't
answer it...i didn't say I was flying...just walking. what the
hell?!? The reason you find every excuse possible to avoid questions
is because you just don't have the guts to speak up and be honest.
Just fess up and say...I don't like MtBers and these are my opinions
about it...not this FACTS bull****. You can't even answer a simple
question let alone provide legit material. If you were honest from day
one...it would be much easier! But you're just an ass.


--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #55  
Old April 1st 08, 03:27 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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QED. Deliberate deception. Everything you say is therefore WORTHLESS
(which we knew already).


Whatever...you are truly Blind.
I created it in a shortlink...You should be familiar with short
things!

http://shortlink.co.uk/rtx

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...TRY=1&SRETRY=0

It should work now...even though that doesn't matter. at least I only
have a broken link...rather than a broken backbone!

I don't hide. The only thing I see when anyone googles your worthless
name is newsgroups....my name is filled with CYCLING items and
research...very few newgroups. Interesting for not know who I am...you
found info on me...hmmm. possibly another lie! unless of course you
googled just an email...which you would be retarded to do since most
people use emails for specific purposes...like rattle your chain on
newsgroups and other emails...I am sure you understand this concept.
You probably have one full all the time with hate mail...then the
emails you wish to receive go into a completely always empty inbox.

And you have YET to answer the straight up questions...because you are
a liar and fraud. Where's your proof of ID? Just who are you...the man
behind all the other's quotes. Show us some proof...maybe even your
frequent flyer card!
  #56  
Old April 1st 08, 05:28 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Tom Sherman[_2_]
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recycled wrote:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:02:21 -0400, "recycled"
wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 05:38:59 -0400, "recycled"
wrote:
You can't walk to Australia. While it is possible that you took a
boat to
Australia and then walked to an airport it doesn't seem at all likely.

In other words, you are only expressing your worthless OPINION, not
FACT. Come back when you have something worth saying.

FACT: You claimed to have travelled from the continental USA to
Australia.

FACT: You pointedly did not deny flying to Australia when this was
brought
up, but instead weaseled by saying 'What makes you think...'

FACT: The only two possible means of conveyance are by air and by sea.

FACT: You claimed that in Australia you walked to the airport.


CONCLUSION: You're full of ****e.

I am working on creating a neurotics habitat that is off-limits to
reason ("pure bull****"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting sanity and rationalism.)

Please don't put a brain cell next to any part of my delusions that you
are fond of!

http://home.insane.net/mjvande


FACT: Did you say something?


OBSERVATION: You need to research the definition of the word FACT.

QUESTION: Exactly what means of conveyance did you use to travel from
the continental USA to Australia?

Presumably a hot air balloon. No fossil fuel needed for Mikey.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful
  #57  
Old April 1st 08, 06:42 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Exactly....

and silence rushes over the Mikey
  #58  
Old April 1st 08, 02:08 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Siskuwihane[_2_]
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On Mar 31, 9:55*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 15:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane





wrote:
On Mar 31, 4:58*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 07:39:10 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Mar 31, 12:11*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:19:49 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane


wrote:
On Mar 30, 5:32*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:11:53 -0700 (PDT), "


wrote:
How is it that everyone on the net is a liar but you?


There you go, LYING again. I never said that. I only said that YOU are
a liar, which is by now OBVIOUS.


*because you are


a liar. The proof is everywhere on google here. You state I don't put
examples...Holy **** are you even serious. There are constant
examples! *They are slapping you in the face and you still
scream..LIAR! You're insane or at the least BiPolar. *No lies by me
because I don't need to lie. You admit to flying to conferences.


No, I didn't. Where's your EVIDENCE? As usuan, NOWHERE to be found.


So tell us how you got to Australia?


What for? That's your job. No one else is interested.


That's is a lie, there are at least 3 people who are interested, seems
you are afraid to answer the question lest you be outed as a selfish
FRAUD!


BS. You aren't a person. People have names. You haven't provided
yours. That proves that you are dishonest from the beginning, and not
worth communicating with.


Wow Mike, you're really digging deep to come up with excuses, don't
want to be made out a fake enviromentalist I suppose.


My name? In your own words "Do your own research".


QED. Deliberate deception. Everything you say is therefore WORTHLESS
which we knew already).
--


Why did you take a commercial airline to Australia when you know they
spews tons of pollutants into the upper atmosphere? Why are you so
SELFISH?

  #59  
Old April 1st 08, 05:31 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:27:10 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:


QED. Deliberate deception. Everything you say is therefore WORTHLESS
(which we knew already).


Whatever...you are truly Blind.
I created it in a shortlink...You should be familiar with short
things!

http://shortlink.co.uk/rtx


So your name is Heather Davis? You continue to refuse to use your real
name -- a sure sign of a LIAR. And you continue to refuse to explain
your deliberate LIE about me:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"

We're still waiting to hear your explanation, LIAR.

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/c...TRY=1&SRETRY=0

It should work now...even though that doesn't matter. at least I only
have a broken link...rather than a broken backbone!

I don't hide. The only thing I see when anyone googles your worthless
name is newsgroups....my name is filled with CYCLING items and
research...very few newgroups. Interesting for not know who I am...you
found info on me...hmmm. possibly another lie! unless of course you
googled just an email...which you would be retarded to do since most
people use emails for specific purposes...like rattle your chain on
newsgroups and other emails...I am sure you understand this concept.
You probably have one full all the time with hate mail...then the
emails you wish to receive go into a completely always empty inbox.

And you have YET to answer the straight up questions...because you are
a liar and fraud. Where's your proof of ID? Just who are you...the man
behind all the other's quotes. Show us some proof...maybe even your
frequent flyer card!

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #60  
Old April 1st 08, 05:33 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:42:36 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Exactly....

and silence rushes over the Mikey


Since you don't like silence, I assume that you will stop
stonewalling, and explain why you deliberately LIED about me:

"I found this picture of Mike Vanderman protesting a bike race...he is
trying to run down the biker...that crazy Mike!! He's always good for
a laugh.

http://bikehugger.com/images/blog/nugget-thumb.jpg"
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 




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