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36+ inch rim source?
I'm interested in oversized rims for a four person human powered
vehicle I am building for the Arcata to Ferndale Kinetic Sculpture Race http://www.kineticsculpturerace.org/ I'm aware of the Coker 36 inch tire aimed at novelty 36" cruisers and unicycles. Has anybody used these tires? What do you think of them? Any remarks on their worthiness for the abuses of 400 pounds per wheel? Does anyone know of a source for unlaced 36 inch rims? I have custom hubs I need to spoke them to. Cannibalizing four of "the big one" unicycles seems stupid and pricey. Any other suggestions for even larger reasonably lightweight but capable "bicycle" tires/wheels for use on hard roads (pavement and gravel)? I roll on barrels to handle sand and mud. Here's a link to past glory (albeit modest) on the KSR circuit http://www.humboldtmusic.com/kinetic It should be plainly obvious I could use some more clearance between the barrels and the road for the narrow highly crowned farmroads we spend a lot of time on. Any wisedom on the relative strength and ruggedness of a large (about 36 inch) spoked wheel compared to a 26 inch? Thanks for any advice you can offer. |
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36+ inch rim source?
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. com, "Howdy" wrote: I'm interested in oversized rims for a four person human powered vehicle I am building for the Arcata to Ferndale Kinetic Sculpture Race http://www.kineticsculpturerace.org/ I'm aware of the Coker 36 inch tire aimed at novelty 36" cruisers and unicycles. Has anybody used these tires? What do you think of them? Any remarks on their worthiness for the abuses of 400 pounds per wheel? Does anyone know of a source for unlaced 36 inch rims? I have custom hubs I need to spoke them to. Cannibalizing four of "the big one" unicycles seems stupid and pricey. Any other suggestions for even larger reasonably lightweight but capable "bicycle" tires/wheels for use on hard roads (pavement and gravel)? I roll on barrels to handle sand and mud. Here's a link to past glory (albeit modest) on the KSR circuit http://www.humboldtmusic.com/kinetic It should be plainly obvious I could use some more clearance between the barrels and the road for the narrow highly crowned farmroads we spend a lot of time on. Any wisedom on the relative strength and ruggedness of a large (about 36 inch) spoked wheel compared to a 26 inch? Thanks for any advice you can offer. You're welcome. 48 spoke wheels. -- Michael Press |
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"Howdy" wrote in message ups.com... I'm interested in oversized rims for a four person human powered vehicle I am building for the Arcata to Ferndale Kinetic Sculpture Race http://www.kineticsculpturerace.org/ I'm aware of the Coker 36 inch tire aimed at novelty 36" cruisers and unicycles. Has anybody used these tires? What do you think of them? Any remarks on their worthiness for the abuses of 400 pounds per wheel? Does anyone know of a source for unlaced 36 inch rims? I have custom hubs I need to spoke them to. Cannibalizing four of "the big one" unicycles seems stupid and pricey. Any other suggestions for even larger reasonably lightweight but capable "bicycle" tires/wheels for use on hard roads (pavement and gravel)? I roll on barrels to handle sand and mud. Here's a link to past glory (albeit modest) on the KSR circuit http://www.humboldtmusic.com/kinetic It should be plainly obvious I could use some more clearance between the barrels and the road for the narrow highly crowned farmroads we spend a lot of time on. Any wisedom on the relative strength and ruggedness of a large (about 36 inch) spoked wheel compared to a 26 inch? Can't help you with the wheel questions but just wanted to say I had a blast spectating last year. Greg |
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"Michael Press" wrote in message ... In article . com, "Howdy" wrote: Thanks for any advice you can offer. You're welcome. 48 spoke wheels. Nice non-sequitur. Greg |
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I can see that a 48 spoke wheel would be more robust, but I'm having
enough trouble finding any 36" rims let alone one with 48 holes. I did end up finding that Unicycle.com sells an unlaced 36 inch rim http://www.unicycle.com/Shopping/shopexd.asp?id=569 Greg, I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the race. Come again. Or, better yet, build your own crazy contraption and join in the glory. Howdy Goudey |
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36+ inch rim source?
Howdy wrote:
I'm interested in oversized rims for a four person human powered vehicle I am building for the Arcata to Ferndale Kinetic Sculpture Race http://www.kineticsculpturerace.org/ I'm aware of the Coker 36 inch tire aimed at novelty 36" cruisers and unicycles. Has anybody used these tires? What do you think of them? Any remarks on their worthiness for the abuses of 400 pounds per wheel? Does anyone know of a source for unlaced 36 inch rims? I have custom hubs I need to spoke them to. Cannibalizing four of "the big one" unicycles seems stupid and pricey. Any other suggestions for even larger reasonably lightweight but capable "bicycle" tires/wheels for use on hard roads (pavement and gravel)? I roll on barrels to handle sand and mud. Here's a link to past glory (albeit modest) on the KSR circuit http://www.humboldtmusic.com/kinetic It should be plainly obvious I could use some more clearance between the barrels and the road for the narrow highly crowned farmroads we spend a lot of time on. Any wisedom on the relative strength and ruggedness of a large (about 36 inch) spoked wheel compared to a 26 inch? Thanks for any advice you can offer. Build them out of laminated wood. Wood rims used to be fairly common on bicycles and other wheeled vehicles. Assuming your sculpture is low speed, it should work. What about tires? |
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Howdy wrote: I'm interested in oversized rims for a four person human powered vehicle I am building for the Arcata to Ferndale Kinetic Sculpture Race http://www.kineticsculpturerace.org/ You're a little late, but the Da Vinci Days group runs design/build workshops for the KSR series: http://www.davinci-days.org/pdf_file...6_workshop.pdf More about the KSR races at Da Vinci Days: http://www.davinci-days.org/kinetic_sculpture_race.php Nothing beats the Muckle Flugga! http://snorlax.lampi.org/mike/ptksr99/muckle.jpg Jeff |
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Howdy wrote:
I'm aware of the Coker 36 inch tire aimed at novelty 36" cruisers and unicycles. Has anybody used these tires? What do you think of them? Any remarks on their worthiness for the abuses of 400 pounds per wheel? The 36" Coker tire is sturdy. The Coker rim, not so much. Coker 36" tires have become the favorite of touring and commuting unicyclists, such as those involved with the Alps Unicycle Tour: http://www.aut.unitours.org/index.htm http://www.aut.unitours.org/Update/D...091538AC51.htm Because the Coker uni's wheels are not really up to the job, there is now an aftermarket supplier of high-quality rims for the Coker tire. This rim is only available in 36 hole drilling, and it may or may not be suitable for 400 lbs/wheel loading. But it is a good strong rim that I have personally considered building a bike around. http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=569 http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=277 http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=905 on the relative strength and ruggedness of a large (about 36 inch) spoked wheel compared to a 26 inch? All else equal, 36 inch wheels will be a lot weaker than 26 inch wheels. However, the only aftermarket rims for 36 inch wheels are about 2-1/2 times heavier than a typical sturdy mountain bike rim. That should make up a lot of the difference. The other thing that will optimize wheel strength for your application is maximizing spoke bracing angle. You'll want to use wider-than-normal hubs if you can. Since there aren't just a huge range of spoke options for 36" wheels, you may have to make or retrofit hubs to accomodate a spoke length you can get. If you do that, though, then the hub width is a factor within your control. Chalo Colina |
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Chalo, thanks for the insights. The unitourers are very impressive.
I'm hoping to reuse the custom hubs that I have been using with 26" rims. They are 3.5" flange to flange, I think. It would be nice to have more of an angle, I'm sure. Perhaps I can press on some drilled standoff rings on the shoulders on my hub to get at least 4" flange to flange. Although I should probably consider building new hubs. I'll check with the local custom wheel builder to see if they can get high quality spokes that will allow a four cross pattern with my hub and the Airfoil 36" rim. I've asked Coker for a spec on the 36" tire load rating, I'll post their response in case anyone is interested. Thanks. Howdy Goudey |
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