c'mon Johan, tell us how you really feel

You know what they say - the truth will set you free, but first it
will **** you off.

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"When I think back on all that, it's been the same scenario for them
for years. A French rider hasn't won the Tour in 20 years. Why?
Simple, they haven't been good enough. And then you see the final
ProTour standings and notice there were four Americans in the top 10
(Armstrong, 5th; Levi Leipheimer, 7th; Bobby Julich, 9th; George
Hincapie, 10th) and for the French, they had four riders in the top
100 (David Moncoutié, 30th; Anthony Geslin, 62nd; Christophe Moreau,
79th; Laurent Brochard, 84th). That's the facts. It's nothing more
than that."

JT

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"Mike Bruno" wrote in message
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You know what they say - the truth will set you free, but first it
will **** you off.

Gospel of John, chapter 8, verse 32. I've got to find a way to work that
paraphrase into my sermon Sunday.

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"When I think back on all that, it's been the same scenario for them
for years. A French rider hasn't won the Tour in 20 years. Why?
Simple, they haven't been good enough.

Good enough at what however, he chooses not to reveal.

And then you see the final
ProTour standings and notice there were four Americans in the top 10
(Armstrong, 5th; Levi Leipheimer, 7th; Bobby Julich, 9th; George
Hincapie, 10th) and for the French, they had four riders in the top
100 (David Moncoutié, 30th; Anthony Geslin, 62nd; Christophe Moreau,
79th; Laurent Brochard, 84th). That's the facts. It's nothing more
than that."

JT

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"Donald Munro" wrote in message
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Mike Bruno wrote:
You know what they say - the truth will set you free, but first it
will **** you off.

Jim Flom wrote:
Gospel of John, chapter 8, verse 32. I've got to find a way to work that
paraphrase into my sermon Sunday.

Repent my son, you have been corrupted by the rbr infidels and crackpots.

It's true though!

Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
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"When I think back on all that, it's been the same scenario for them
for years. A French rider hasn't won the Tour in 20 years. Why?
Simple, they haven't been good enough.


Good enough at what however, he chooses not to reveal.

You have no evidence for what you are implying here. And I don't
mean that LANCE is on dope. I mean that LANCE has some super
secret dope that no one else knows about. Ferrari has clients
other than LANCE.

The age where the French sucked in the Tour did not coincide with
the dawn of EPO, it preceeded it. They've sucked for a long time.

Bob Schwartz

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Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message
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Bruyneel via
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"When I think back on all that, it's been the same scenario for them
for years. A French rider hasn't won the Tour in 20 years. Why?
Simple, they haven't been good enough.


Good enough at what however, he chooses not to reveal.

You have no evidence for what you are implying here. And I don't
mean that LANCE is on dope. I mean that LANCE has some super
secret dope that no one else knows about. Ferrari has clients
other than LANCE.

If you've read Daniel Coyle's book, you know that Armstrong had an exclusive
contract with Ferrari that prevented Ferrari from working with any other
rider who was a threat to win the Tour.

Bob Schwartz wrote:

The age where the French sucked in the Tour did not coincide with
the dawn of EPO, it preceeded it. They've sucked for a long time.


dumbass,

sorta but not quite. in '97 festina was one of the most dominant teams
in the tour and they won a bunch of stages (brochard, virenque, rous,
stephens) and did everything but win the tour. most of those riders
were french. brochard even won the worlds that year.

so it's not fair to say the french sucked for 20 years.

after '98 they haven't been the same.

"Bob Schwartz" wrote in message
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Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message
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Bruyneel via
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"When I think back on all that, it's been the same scenario for them
for years. A French rider hasn't won the Tour in 20 years. Why?
Simple, they haven't been good enough.


Good enough at what however, he chooses not to reveal.

You have no evidence for what you are implying here.

That's right. I have no evidence. Not even sure what I was implying, but
your sensitive ass seems to know very well.

And I don't
mean that LANCE is on dope. I mean that LANCE has some super
secret dope that no one else knows about. Ferrari has clients
other than LANCE.

The age where the French sucked in the Tour did not coincide with
the dawn of EPO, it preceeded it. They've sucked for a long time.

Bob Schwartz

Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:
"Bob Schwartz" wrote in message
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Jonathan v.d. Sluis wrote:

"John Forrest Tomlinson" wrote in message
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Bruyneel via
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"When I think back on all that, it's been the same scenario for them
for years. A French rider hasn't won the Tour in 20 years. Why?
Simple, they haven't been good enough.


Good enough at what however, he chooses not to reveal.

You have no evidence for what you are implying here.


That's right. I have no evidence. Not even sure what I was implying, but
your sensitive ass seems to know very well.

Well, since you've chosen not to reveal exactly what you meant,
I had to rely on my sensitive ass. And in this case, I think
my ass is pretty accurate.

Although it appears to be less sensitive than yours.

Bob Schwartz