Analysis of posts to alt.mountain-bike

Benjamin Weiner wrote:

I know. PDP-10s were for hackers, 360s et al were for running
payroll, or at least that's what the hackers claimed. When I learned
to program on a PDP-10, we didn't even have to use cards, we got to
use printing terminals with big sheets of perforated computer paper.
Anybody remember computer paper?

Remember it? We're still using it! Cutting edge of hi-tech manufacturing,
us...

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a.m-b FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/ambfaq.htm

a.bmx FAQ: http://www.t-online.de/~jharris/bmx_faq.htm

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:08:57 +0200, bomba penned:
Monique Y. Herman wrote:

Me, I use ssh + screen to run slrn wherever I am =)

Geek!


Guilty as charged!

--
monique

My pointless ramblings:
http://www.bounceswoosh.org/phorum/index.php?f=6

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 04:01:58 +0000, Gman wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:52:53 -0700, bruce edge wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:45:21 +1200, AD. wrote:

On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:18:47 -0700, bruce edge wrote:

Woo Hoo, another debian fan.

Any of you folk use pan?

yes, and yes to Debian (Sid) too!

Right on bro! Sid rocks.

I'm gonna try Mandrake and see how it is...I'm
running Debian Woody on this box. I absolutely
LOVE the apt-get system.

If I can get some good ftp sources configured with
the Mandrake SW Manager I hope to have similar
functionality.

Gman

Don't do it!!!!

The basic problem with rpm based distros is that the package system does
not allow one to even temporarily break the package dependency tree without
potentially catastrophic results.
Debian's apt is different in that you can upgrade you system through a
condition which will break dependencies as long as the final solution
doesn't contain any broken package dependencies. The debian "apt-get
dist-upgrade" is the magic command that will get you through this.
I ran red had and mandrake for several years, and always ended up with a
situation where I could not upgrade any further, a reinstall was required.

Just try upgrading you libc package on an rpm based distro and see if
still works afterwards :-)
Or, try downgrading it. Both of these work on debian.

-Bruce

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:08:57 +0200, bomba wrote:

Monique Y. Herman wrote:

Me, I use ssh + screen to run slrn wherever I am =)

Geek!

screen is awesome. I can't live without it now.

-Bruce

"Shaun Rimmer" wrote in message
...

Gman wrote in message
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and I'll
still have her box to play M$ Motocross madness
on!

Ahem........well, if you can't think of any better
games...........ahem....



Shaun aRe - where TF was Sorni?!?!?!?

Sorry sorry sorry... Asleep at the switch.

Bill "eyes glaze over when things get techie" S.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 15:35:31 -0000, Monique Y. Herman wrote:
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:08:57 +0200, bomba penned:
Monique Y. Herman wrote:

Me, I use ssh + screen to run slrn wherever I am =)

Geek!

Guilty as charged!

"Not that there's anything wrong with it." :-)

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-BB-
To reply to me, drop the attitude (from my e-mail address, at least)

If I can get some good ftp sources configured with
the Mandrake SW Manager I hope to have similar
functionality.

Gman

Don't do it!!!!

The basic problem with rpm based distros is that the package system does
not allow one to even temporarily break the package dependency tree without
potentially catastrophic results.
Debian's apt is different in that you can upgrade you system through a
condition which will break dependencies as long as the final solution
doesn't contain any broken package dependencies. The debian "apt-get
dist-upgrade" is the magic command that will get you through this.
I ran red had and mandrake for several years, and always ended up with a
situation where I could not upgrade any further, a reinstall was required.

Just try upgrading you libc package on an rpm based distro and see if
still works afterwards :-)
Or, try downgrading it. Both of these work on debian.

-Bruce

Aw, c'mon Bruce...a little box rebuilding doesn't
bother me.

One thing I like is that Mandrake is a
little better set up "out of the box". Like it
already interfaces w/ my Canon digicam, prints
well to my wifes WinME served nw printer.

AND their devlopement cycle is SCARY fast...their
OS is very advanced and getting better rapidly.

I really like apt-get, but I'm giving the Drake a
chance.

G

Sorni wrote in message
. ..
"Shaun Rimmer" wrote in message
...

Gman wrote in message
-

and I'll
still have her box to play M$ Motocross madness
on!

Ahem........well, if you can't think of any better
games...........ahem....



Shaun aRe - where TF was Sorni?!?!?!?

Sorry sorry sorry... Asleep at the switch.

You're not half as sorry as you look, Billybwoy.

Bill "eyes glaze over when things get techie" S.

Ah, I just wanted to look in and laugh at the geeks ',;~}~


Shaun aRe

On 12 Sep 2003 03:59:11 GMT, Gman penned:

Aw, c'mon Bruce...a little box rebuilding doesn't
bother me.

One thing I like is that Mandrake is a
little better set up "out of the box". Like it
already interfaces w/ my Canon digicam, prints
well to my wifes WinME served nw printer.

AND their devlopement cycle is SCARY fast...their
OS is very advanced and getting better rapidly.

I really like apt-get, but I'm giving the Drake a
chance.

G

Depending on your reasons for using linux, this may leave a bad taste in
your mouth regarding mandrake:

http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules...ticle&sid=7702

Apparently, they will be supplementing their income by allowing
companies to place ads in the installer.

Don't think I'll be seeing this kind of thing on debian anytime soon.
And if I do, I'm switching ... to what, I don't know, but definitely
switching.

--
monique

My pointless ramblings:
http://www.bounceswoosh.org/phorum/index.php?f=6

One thing I like is that Mandrake is a
little better set up "out of the box". Like it
already interfaces w/ my Canon digicam, prints
well to my wifes WinME served nw printer.

AND their devlopement cycle is SCARY fast...their
OS is very advanced and getting better rapidly.

Yeah, debian's installer is the subject of many debates. There is a new
installer in the works, which is probably it's weakest feature.
In the mean time....
Install Mandrake on one partition, verify everything's working.
Install Debian on another partition, use Mandrake's /etc dir as a guide
for what you might need to get the debian version working :-)

-Bruce