Any theories on Specialized steel return?

On Sep 26, 11:36*am, Bob Schwartz
wrote:
Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:

Paul G. wrote:
I still ride steel too, as I need a custom sized frame and I wouldn't
go any faster on anything else. Sometimes when I'm pedaling downhill,
feeling like I'm going pretty fast I'll look at my cycle computer and
think "wow, this is what the pros AVERAGE in a time trial."
-Paul

Steel is real. *I ride an Olmo c. 1982, Columbus SL, 51 cm.

I agree completely, the UCI should prohibit non-ferrous bikes
along with multi-gear rear wheels. Flip-flop hubs on steel
bikes, just like the old days. It'll make the racing more
interesting.

Whoops, wrong thread. Sorry.

Bob Schwartz

Steel is good enough for fattie masters. If I thought it would help
me keep up with the aging 3rd place LANCE I'd fork over the bucks for
a custom carbon frame, but that's not going to happen. Flip flop hubs
would probably throw my back out, so don't be ridiculous.
-Paul

On Sep 26, 2:41*pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:

Carbon frames are getting enough miles on them now that they're beginning to
fail.

One of my friends rides a Novara he got at REI. The carbon forks
broke. That's what he gets for riding a woman's bike. And driving into
his garage with it on a roof rack.
-Paul

Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:


Steel is real. I ride an Olmo c. 1982, Columbus SL, 51 cm.


I have one of these too. And even though I have many other bikes this
one is the one I grab first. 55cm with Campy SR and still has the down
tube shifters.

Yeah, I am a retro grouch.

Also have a Colubus SL Medici, a Harry Quinn 531 TT bike, Colnago
Tandem, Ron Kitching Cyclo Cross Bike, Pinnarelo Funny TTT Bike and an
Vitus Carbon that I won't ride at my current FM weight.

No real coincidence, I like Steel too.

Bill


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William R. Mattil

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Paul G. wrote:
On Sep 26, 2:41 pm, "Tom Kunich" wrote:
Carbon frames are getting enough miles on them now that they're beginning to
fail.

One of my friends rides a Novara he got at REI. The carbon forks
broke. That's what he gets for riding a woman's bike. And driving into
his garage with it on a roof rack.
-Paul

It's a choice you've got to make. Buy a bike with a carbon fork and
you've got to purchase a new fork. Buy one with a steel fork and you'll
have to replace the whole damned garage.

wrote:
The other theory is that consumers are tired of shelling out thousands
of dollars for composite frames that have a limited life. Steel has the
durability that other materials just can't match.

Bob Schwartz wrote:
Nice troll, but you forgot to crosspost it to r.b.t.

Ryan will provide the course material as per one of his his signatures.

Anyway he's sure to get at least one bite on rbr from Kunich describing
how karbon frames are starting to fail in the Kuniverse.

In article ,
Donald Munro wrote:

wrote:
The other theory is that consumers are tired of shelling out thousands
of dollars for composite frames that have a limited life. Steel has the
durability that other materials just can't match.

Bob Schwartz wrote:
Nice troll, but you forgot to crosspost it to r.b.t.

Ryan will provide the course material as per one of his his signatures.

Anyway he's sure to get at least one bite on rbr from Kunich describing
how karbon frames are starting to fail in the Kuniverse.

Ah...the new steel frame?

"It's for selling." - A Muzi

I know, I was surprised too, was sure the quote would be from that
traitor B Franklin.

United Empire Loyalist,

--
Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."

William R. Mattil wrote:
Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:


Steel is real. I ride an Olmo c. 1982, Columbus SL, 51 cm.


I have one of these too. And even though I have many other bikes this
one is the one I grab first. 55cm with Campy SR and still has the down
tube shifters.

Yeah, I am a retro grouch.

Also have a Colubus SL Medici, a Harry Quinn 531 TT bike, Colnago
Tandem, Ron Kitching Cyclo Cross Bike, Pinnarelo Funny TTT Bike and an
Vitus Carbon that I won't ride at my current FM weight.

No real coincidence, I like Steel too.

Bill



Medici--hmmm. Do you know Bill Recht? Haven't seen him in years. We
had lots of Medicis in our club, Bill rode with us (LIBC) and also the
BTCNJ.

Steve

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Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001

Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:


Medici--hmmm. Do you know Bill Recht? Haven't seen him in years. We
had lots of Medicis in our club, Bill rode with us (LIBC) and also the
BTCNJ.


Hi Steve,

Name doesn't ring a bell .... When I raced I was living in S Calif and
it was a no brainer to have a Medici for a Crit bike. Very stiff and
they were local (Los Angeles) for any necessary repairs. In fact if
memory serves Mike Howard, who with Brian Bayless were Wizard Cycles,
worked there and even repaired the top tube on my Harry Quinn.

Regards

Bill

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William R. Mattil

http://www.celestial-images.com

On Sep 29, 11:43*am, "William R. Mattil"
wrote:
Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:



Medici--hmmm. *Do you know Bill Recht? *Haven't seen him in years. *We
had lots of Medicis in our club, Bill rode with us (LIBC) and also the
BTCNJ.

Hi Steve,

Name doesn't ring a bell .... When I raced I was living in S Calif and
it was a no brainer to have a Medici for a Crit bike. Very stiff and
they were local (Los Angeles) for any necessary repairs. In fact if
memory serves Mike Howard, who with Brian Bayless were Wizard Cycles,
worked there and even repaired the top tube on my Harry Quinn.

Regards

Bill

--

William R. Mattil

http://www.celestial-images.com

Weren't the Medici guys behind Simonetti bikes? I had a steel
Simonetti frame years ago and loved it.

Scott wrote:
On Sep 29, 11:43 am, "William R. Mattil"
wrote:
Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:



Medici--hmmm. Do you know Bill Recht? Haven't seen him in years. We
had lots of Medicis in our club, Bill rode with us (LIBC) and also the
BTCNJ.
Hi Steve,

Name doesn't ring a bell .... When I raced I was living in S Calif and
it was a no brainer to have a Medici for a Crit bike. Very stiff and
they were local (Los Angeles) for any necessary repairs. In fact if
memory serves Mike Howard, who with Brian Bayless were Wizard Cycles,
worked there and even repaired the top tube on my Harry Quinn.

Regards

Bill

--

William R. Mattil

http://www.celestial-images.com

Weren't the Medici guys behind Simonetti bikes? I had a steel
Simonetti frame years ago and loved it.


Yes,

Gian Simonetti was the owner.


Regards

Bill

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William R. Mattil

http://www.celestial-images.com