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Old March 4th 18, 12:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Judith[_4_]
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect
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Old March 4th 18, 01:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
paul george
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On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect


The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians.
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Old March 4th 18, 02:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect


The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians.


I support all vehicle users facing the same penalties for the same offences.

I would be fairly certain that if I were to drive around in a car with
no brakes and I ran down and killed someone as a result then I would get
a bit more than 18 months in the way of a sentence (see the case of
Charlie 'perjurer' Alliston). Yet the offences would be the same, so
why should any vehicle type be treated differently to the rest?
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Old March 4th 18, 03:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Jester
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On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 1:12:26 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect


The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians.


I support all vehicle users facing the same penalties for the same offences.

I would be fairly certain that if I were to drive around in a car with
no brakes and I ran down and killed someone as a result then I would get
a bit more than 18 months in the way of a sentence (see the case of
Charlie 'perjurer' Alliston). Yet the offences would be the same, so
why should any vehicle type be treated differently to the rest?


If Charlie Alliston had been driving a car the case would never had made it to court.
It would be a case of a pedestrian walking into the road in front of a moving vehicle.
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Old March 4th 18, 07:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect


The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians.


So are you in favour of abolishing that penalty?
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Old March 4th 18, 07:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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On 04/03/2018 14:45, Simon Jester wrote:
On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 1:12:26 PM UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 04/03/2018 12:51, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect

The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians.


I support all vehicle users facing the same penalties for the same offences.

I would be fairly certain that if I were to drive around in a car with
no brakes and I ran down and killed someone as a result then I would get
a bit more than 18 months in the way of a sentence (see the case of
Charlie 'perjurer' Alliston). Yet the offences would be the same, so
why should any vehicle type be treated differently to the rest?


If Charlie Alliston had been driving a car the case would never had made it to court.
It would be a case of a pedestrian walking into the road in front of a moving vehicle.


A moving motor vehicle with no brakes?
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Old March 5th 18, 03:07 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
jnugent
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On 04/03/2018 11:32, Judith wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect


Not so.

In order to be comparable to the laws concerning motor vehicles, the new
legislation needs to cover damage to property (especially other
vehicles, but also street furniture) and any injuries to the person (not
just death).

Ideally, cyclists need to be covered - whether they wish to be or not -
by compulsory policies of insurance where the insurers are specifically
aware that they are on risk for cycling incidents and where they know
whose risk they are insuring (no winging it on mum's fridge-freezer
insurance).
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Old March 5th 18, 05:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sunday, March 4, 2018 at 12:51:27 PM UTC, Paul George wrote:
On Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:32:30 UTC, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect


The threat of 14 years in prison does not seem to deter motorists from jumping red lights or driving on pavements or injuring and killing pedestrians.


Has Cheerless invoked Rhiannon yet?
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Old March 6th 18, 10:41 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Peter Keller[_3_]
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On 05/03/18 00:32, Judith wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...oduced-reports


Ministers are set to recommend a new offence of causing death by dangerous
cycling under plans expected to be announced this week, it has been reported.

Last September, it was revealed MPs were considering introducing an offence for
cyclists who kill pedestrians, in a review designed to reflect public concern
over safety on the roads.

Reports on Sunday suggested the review will recommend the new offence, which
would carry the same penalties as causing death by dangerous driving.

So some cyclists could be possibly looking at 14 years where they'll not be
tempted to jump red-lights, ride on the pavements, and injure or kill
pedestrians.

Perfect

Already have it.
It is called manslaughter.
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Old January 13th 20, 10:28 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Kerr-Mudd,John[_2_]
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On Sun, 04 Mar 2018 11:32:27 GMT, Judith
wrote:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...dangerous-cycl
ing-offence-to-be-introduced-reports



Where are the trolls of yester-year?


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