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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
Are you saying that pedestrians in the carriageway are fair game outside of a designated crossing?
Watch enough Hollywood movies and just about anyone anywhere is fair game in the U. S., school children, whatever. |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On 22/03/18 07:09, Simon Jester wrote:
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 9:57:48 AM UTC, Peter Keller wrote: On 21/03/18 02:01, MrCheerful wrote: On 20/03/2018 10:03, wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:00:02 +0000 Bod wrote: Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the first of its kind. The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the country. Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...arizona-pedest ian-police-say.html This is what happens when companies try to push technology thats not ready simply to boost their share price. But then only idiots believed the BS about it being what drivers want anyway. Typical cyclist, walks her bicycle in front of a car and people say it was the car's fault. For once I agree with you. That was a damn' stupid place for the bicyclist to jaywalk across the road. Are you saying that pedestrians in the carriageway are fair game outside of a designated crossing? In America it seems like it. |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On Tuesday, March 20, 2018 at 6:48:42 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, March 19, 2018 at 6:00:05 PM UTC, Bod wrote: Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the first of its kind. The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the country. Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...olice-say.html -- Bod No system designed by humans will be 100% reliable. The obvious first step is to reduce speed limits for motor vehicles in urban areas to 5mph. Dashcam footage. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Uber-car.html |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On Wed, 21 Mar 2018 22:57:46 +1300
Peter Keller wrote: On 21/03/18 02:01, MrCheerful wrote: On 20/03/2018 10:03, wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:00:02 +0000 Bod wrote: Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the first of its kind. The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the country. Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...arizona-pedest ian-police-say.html This is what happens when companies try to push technology thats not ready simply to boost their share price. But then only idiots believed the BS about it being what drivers want anyway. Typical cyclist, walks her bicycle in front of a car and people say it was the car's fault. For once I agree with you. That was a damn' stupid place for the bicyclist to jaywalk across the road. Its turning into a bit of a farce. Metro pointed out this morning that the safety driver is a formed armed robber who now thinks he's a woman. Driverless cars, criminal rehabilitation and a "non binary" slant. Its millenial catnip. |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 12:15:43 +0000
MrCheerful wrote: On 22/03/2018 09:46, wrote: Its turning into a bit of a farce. Metro pointed out this morning that the safety driver is a formed armed robber who now thinks he's a woman. Driverless cars, criminal rehabilitation and a "non binary" slant. Its millenial catnip. the other silly thing is that a driverless car can (I believed ) 'see' in the dark with its IR cameras, radar etc. Maybe, but if she stepped out right in front of it there's not a lot it could have done. The laws of physics apply to automated cars as much as human driven ones. |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On 22/03/2018 12:26, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 12:15:43 +0000 MrCheerful wrote: On 22/03/2018 09:46, wrote: Its turning into a bit of a farce. Metro pointed out this morning that the safety driver is a formed armed robber who now thinks he's a woman. Driverless cars, criminal rehabilitation and a "non binary" slant. Its millenial catnip. the other silly thing is that a driverless car can (I believed ) 'see' in the dark with its IR cameras, radar etc. Maybe, but if she stepped out right in front of it there's not a lot it could have done. The laws of physics apply to automated cars as much as human driven ones. Have you seen the video?, it appears that she just wandered across an entire dark lane before the collision, so if a computer could have seen her (using infra red, etc), then it should have predicted that she was likely to be hit, certainly a competent driver (assuming he COULD see her) would have worked out that collision was likely and taken some action to avoid or reduce it. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartandhp |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:23:27 +0000
MrCheerful wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...in-front-of-ub r-car/ar-BBKxM3i?ocid=spartandhp Actually looking at that video I can't help wondering why the lasers or radar didn't pick her up. There's no sound so its hard to tell if the car started to brake but it doesn't look like it. Still, the woman was obviously a cretin so Darwin would have got her in the end. |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On 22/03/2018 15:27, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:23:27 +0000 MrCheerful wrote: https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...in-front-of-ub r-car/ar-BBKxM3i?ocid=spartandhp Actually looking at that video I can't help wondering why the lasers or radar didn't pick her up. There's no sound so its hard to tell if the car started to brake but it doesn't look like it. Still, the woman was obviously a cretin so Darwin would have got her in the end. Yep, my first thought was that the system is crap, it would mean that darkness, mist, fog, snow etc. would have a deluge of crashes. |
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Self-driving Uber car kills Arizona pedestrian, police say
On 21/03/2018 18:09, Simon Jester wrote:
On Wednesday, March 21, 2018 at 9:57:48 AM UTC, Peter Keller wrote: On 21/03/18 02:01, MrCheerful wrote: On 20/03/2018 10:03, wrote: On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:00:02 +0000 Bod wrote: Officials said an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a self-driving Uber vehicle early Monday -- an incident believed to be the first of its kind. The accident in the Phoenix suburb of Tempe caused the company to suspend all testing of self-driving vehicles in cities across the country. Tempe Police Sgt. Ronald Elcock told FOX10 Phoenix the woman was walking outside of a crosswalk when she was struck by the vehicle. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/19...arizona-pedest ian-police-say.html This is what happens when companies try to push technology thats not ready simply to boost their share price. But then only idiots believed the BS about it being what drivers want anyway. Typical cyclist, walks her bicycle in front of a car and people say it was the car's fault. For once I agree with you. That was a damn' stupid place for the bicyclist to jaywalk across the road. Are you saying that pedestrians in the carriageway are fair game outside of a designated crossing? Are you saying that you are ignorant of the law on "jaywalking" in most USA states? Why do I ask? Of *course* you are. Here's some of the Arizona legislation: QUOTE: howwedrive.com. The State Statute 28-793. Crossing at other than crosswalk A. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection *shall* *yield* the right-of-way to *all* *vehicles* on the roadway. B. A pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point where a pedestrian tunnel or overhead pedestrian crossing has been provided *shall* *yield* the right-of-way to *all* *vehicles* on the roadway. C. Between adjacent intersections at which traffic control signals are in operation, pedestrians *shall* *not* cross at any place except in a marked crosswalk. In Arizona, cities are authorized to enact their own pedestrian regulations; so you need to look at each and every jurisdiction; skip below to see two examples, Tempe and Mesa. [Let's skip straight to Tempe] Jaywalking in Tempe Sec. 19-1(2) Central business district means all streets and portions of streets within the area described as follows. All that area bounded by the salt river on the north, to 10th Street on the south and from Myrtle Avenue on the east to Maple Avenue on the west. [note: the ASU campus is, mostly, not in the central business district. Rather it is east of the CBD.] Sec. 19-151. Crossing a roadway. (a) No pedestrian shall cross the roadway within the central business district other than within a marked or unmarked crosswalk. (b) Every pedestrian crossing a roadway outside of the central business district at any point other than within a marked or unmarked crosswalk *shall* *yield* the right-of-way to *all* *vehicles* upon the roadway. (c) No pedestrian shall cross a roadway where signs or traffic control signals prohibit such crossing. ENDQUOTE |
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