BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.

Eric Harvey wrote:

OMC paid my PayPal account $300 today, by 2 PM. No more prompting
on my
part, and no more false promises on his part. What exactly does
this tell
you? It tells me that he is a bull**** artist who might make good
on some
deals, but at the same time might also rip someone off. It also
tells me
that he was unwilling to do it unless he might possibly face scorn
and/or
embarassment from his precious little society. To me, the fact
that he did
nothing until he felt he might have some egg on his face, that
speaks
volumes about his character. But hey, if you clowns want to
believe that
there is "another side to the story" and kiss OMC's ass because it
makes you
feel closer to the bigtime then be my guest. I got my money back.


Good job! There might be another side to the story... but your OP
sounded believeable... and sounded reasonable as well. It doesn't
sound like you came to the newsgroup as your FIRST action, but as a
last resort. So... count me among the people who support what you did,
and who are happy to hear that you got your money back.

Tom wrote:
Eric Harvey wrote:
I'll make one response here, for the sake of clarifying things. I
actually
used to frequent this group quite a bit back in the mid-late 90s,
but
after
seeing some of the responses here....I remember why I left.

Eric, we remember you well and you've not been missed.

OMC, as he is being referred to here, had plenty of opportunity to
make
things right. After my first inquiry, he said the package was
"lost"
in
customs and then implied that he had it back in his posession. He
said he
would be re-sending it on Jan. 24. After not receiving it in 3
weeks
(again), I e-mailed him and asked for a refund as it was 3 months
and
I had
received no shoes/pedals. The reply was again about the package
being lost.
Blame the post system once, but don't blame it twice. I have done
HUNDREDS
of cross-border transactions, and never once has something truly
been
lost,
nor has anything taken THREE months to arrive. So don't blame
Canada
(Kunich, you stupid f*cknut, shut your pie-hole). If any of you
were
in my
situation, what would you have done? After requesting a refund of
my
money,
and being assured by OMC that it would happen, NOTHING happened in
the
following month. And that brought us to today.

Funny thing is that I think that I got that Peugeot PX-10 frame from
you. Why don't you tell us that it wasn't you and that the six month
delay wasn't because of the dumb-**** Canadian customs system? If it
wasn't you from whom I got that frame it was someone who wrote a
great
deal like you.

OMC paid my PayPal account $300 today, by 2 PM. No more prompting
on
my
part, and no more false promises on his part. What exactly does
this
tell
you?

That he had already been planning on returning your money and you
happened to post just before he did.

I don't care if you all want to flame me, assassinate my
personality,
whatever.

Aren't you assuming that you DO have a personality?


I'll make this brief..........I've done hundreds of transactions
without problems. Regarding Eric in Canada, someone has those
shoes/pedals, never was returned to me via the Postal. I'm out $ 300.00
bucks & shoes/pedals.
Funny seeing T/A post here........he couldn't answer numerous phone
calls or e-mails or even show up in San Francisco to introduce me to
his Reggie Jackson baseball bat as he threatened. T/A has done numerous
transactions with me without a problem sorta failed to mention that.
T/A also got his money and I was without items that had been shipped
and verifed as being "left on Porch" by UPS. Lesson learned there,
never ship crap to Compton California without a signature required. UPS
would not honor my claim, so I was SOL.
This will be my only response to such crap.....so what's new here in
RBR ???

"OMC"
Nuke Canada

Eric -- your credibility went to zero in a flash.
I understand your frustration but then to vent so sorely makes you look
like the loser.

Personally I have dealt with OMC in the past with bike stuff -- it
didn't go perfectly once but I got what I wanted and more, even if it
was late TO NO FAULT OF OMC himself. I kow the difference.

Settle down Eric and quit being such a mean tempered, scatalogical,
foul-mouthed poster. Who would ever want to transact with you now?

-Ken

In article . com,
says...

....

T/A also got his money and I was without items that had been shipped
and verifed as being "left on Porch" by UPS. Lesson learned there,
never ship crap to Compton California without a signature required. UPS

That's why I always have stuff shipped to my work, though I realize
that's not an option for everybody.

.....

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k.papai wrote:
Eric -- your credibility went to zero in a flash.
I understand your frustration but then to vent so sorely makes you
look
like the loser.

Personally I have dealt with OMC in the past with bike stuff -- it
didn't go perfectly once but I got what I wanted and more, even if it
was late TO NO FAULT OF OMC himself. I kow the difference.

Settle down Eric and quit being such a mean tempered, scatalogical,
foul-mouthed poster. Who would ever want to transact with you now?

-Ken

I'm not sure that THIS is a fair assessment of eric. OMC has finally
responded, and he sounds credible too... but... the shipment is the
responsibility of the shipper until it gets to the addressee. It's too
bad that he didnt communicate with Eric a little more before Eric
sought to shine a light on the guy, which might have prevented all of
this.

I can't fault Eric for going ballistic when he was out $300. But this
should all trace back to my post warning about using Paypal. If you're
gonna use it... use it wisely.

Bottom line OMC made good on his word, but it seems to have taken an
awfully long time and a lot of griping to get to that point.

"Tom" wrote in
ups.com:


Funny thing is that I think that I got that Peugeot PX-10 frame
from you. Why don't you tell us that it wasn't you and that the
six month delay wasn't because of the dumb-**** Canadian customs
system? If it wasn't you from whom I got that frame it was someone
who wrote a great deal like you.

Tom baby, the Canadian Customs system doesn't look at something shipped
from Canada to the US...it's the dumb-**** US Customs system that does
that.

so what's new here in RBR ???

Same ol' crap from some wannabe Pros who snivel that they never made it big
because everyone else was doping.

The usually omit the fact that they couldn't catch the tail end Cat 2's in
the Pro-1-2 races in Modesto.

"MJR" wrote in message
oups.com...

k.papai wrote:
Eric -- your credibility went to zero in a flash.
I understand your frustration but then to vent so sorely makes you
look
like the loser.

Personally I have dealt with OMC in the past with bike stuff -- it
didn't go perfectly once but I got what I wanted and more, even if it
was late TO NO FAULT OF OMC himself. I kow the difference.

Settle down Eric and quit being such a mean tempered, scatalogical,
foul-mouthed poster. Who would ever want to transact with you now?

-Ken

I'm not sure that THIS is a fair assessment of eric. OMC has finally
responded, and he sounds credible too... but... the shipment is the
responsibility of the shipper until it gets to the addressee.

Not necessarily. Since I live alone and work most of the time, I ASK those
who I do business with to have the stuff dropped on the porch. Because of
that I'm always willing to consider that something was delivered to me and
went missing from my front porch. In that case it's MY fault and not the
shipper.

It's too
bad that he didnt communicate with Eric a little more before Eric
sought to shine a light on the guy, which might have prevented all of
this.

If I interpretted Mike's posting, he in fact DID try to contact him. And it
is also interesting to note that he had bought stuff from Creed in the past
and knew he wasn't a scam artist. And he did omit that little fact in his
rush to paint him with his mud.

Bottom line OMC made good on his word, but it seems to have taken an
awfully long time and a lot of griping to get to that point.

Look, if I send something and it doesn't get there I'm going to wait until
the necessary amount of time before the shipper wil admit that it's missing.
Then you have to put a tracer on it.

Now Creed says that the shipper supplied a report that said "left on porch".

If I were anyone selling anything in Canada from now on I'd request a
signature delivery only.

you shipped to Compton? like NWA dr. dre compton?
Isn't that where some pro got their bike stolen?
I've sold some stuff to Canadians, and it usually is a nightmare, and
here is why:
canadians think they are really americans, like the 52nd state or
something, but
since 9/11, shipping to Canada is slow, insane slow, because they route
everything to
2 customs hubs on either side of the continent, it takes 6 weeks and
stuff gets lost too,
which is crazy because I've shipped many bike parts to Japan, and it
takes
8 days, and nothing has ever been lost.

wrote in
ups.com:

you shipped to Compton? like NWA dr. dre compton?
Isn't that where some pro got their bike stolen?
I've sold some stuff to Canadians, and it usually is a nightmare,
and here is why:
canadians think they are really americans, like the 52nd state or
something, but
since 9/11, shipping to Canada is slow, insane slow, because they
route everything to
2 customs hubs on either side of the continent, it takes 6 weeks
and stuff gets lost too,
which is crazy because I've shipped many bike parts to Japan, and
it takes
8 days, and nothing has ever been lost.


Get real, the 52 state, who the hell would want to be that. All the
border **** is strictly a result of US paranoia, so as Pogo said 'we
have seen the enemy and it is us".