Scriptures

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up
religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious
discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories:

*Greased vs non-greased tapers
*Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing
*Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs
*Tubulars vs clinchers
*Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes

or the more recent

*Disc vs Rim brakes.

To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my
hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll
fragments.
-Mark J
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In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the
wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among
us, round and true.

And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate
the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If
any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not
suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of
thy keyboard.
And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake,
saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove
from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset.
And great was the enmity between them.

[1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic.


The Bike Shop of ISO

Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it
came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to
one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire
unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be
scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came
down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and
said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and
this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in
cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them,
and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down,
and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's
components.
So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard,
and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD,
and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and
Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that
creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad
upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop.
Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a
multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to
find a part that fits.

The Collection of Andrew of Muzi

In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth
was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and
his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a
torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of
gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle
component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the
shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened.
Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every
rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come
unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what
the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the
choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto
them.

Proverbs and Parables

Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon
the Brown

The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower
spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the
torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded
on high tension.
The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher
spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the
torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the
collapse of it. - Jobst

Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and
thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst

What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not
light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find
it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her
neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the
bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop.

It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule
than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject.

Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad).

You're a wicked man, Tom Munich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity.

Andre Jute
Nauseated

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up
religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious
discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories:
[snip]
It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule
than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject.

Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad).

You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity.

Andre Jute
Nauseated

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:58:23 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up
religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious
discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories:
[snip]
It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule
than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject.

Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad).

You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity.

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html

Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:21:44 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:58:23 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up
religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious
discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories:
[snip]
It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule
than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject.

Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad).

You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity.

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html

Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.

Being nice to these sorts of people isn't going to work you know. Night sticks and broken heads are the only thing that really makes an impression on them.

On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:58:23 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote:
It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up
religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious
discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories:
[snip]
It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule
than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject.

Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad).

You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity.

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html

Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.


C'mon guys, this is the RBT religious issues thread. Down with
Un-Greased Taperians! Can a righteous man ride tubeless? What
/exactly/ does stress-relieving spokes DO? DOES a spoked wheel really
stand on its lower spokes? To Disk or Not to Disk, that is the question!

Get with the program!

Mark J.

On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:

snip

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html

Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.

My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They
had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into
their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and
then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay
with their relatives.

I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas.

On 6/24/2020 5:42 PM, sms wrote:
On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:

snip

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the
Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news:
https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html


Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We
have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.

My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP
zone. They had to evacuate, before it was formed, because
tear gas was coming into their condominium and affecting
their baby. They came back once, and then there was more
tear gas, so they went across the country to stay with their
relatives.

I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more
tear gas.

Just call up Ms Durkan, Mayor-to-Mayor, and offer to take
all of them in your town. You probably have some productive
tax paying properties they'd like and your police would
appreciate a paid vacation somewhere else I'll bet. You'll
be known as the author of Seattle's solution AND prove to
all that you're down with the revolution. Win-win.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:42:39 -0700, sms
wrote:

On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:

snip

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html

Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.

My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They
had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into
their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and
then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay
with their relatives.

I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas.

I think that the CHOP zones are a great idea, in fact there should be
more of them. Of course they will have to be fenced to preclude the
entrance of those horrible police so each city could partition off a
section of their area and those who descry the police could go there
to live.

Think how wonderful it would be. No more Black people being killed by
police and without those murderous police the population of the "Zone"
would have complete freedom. Truly Heaven on Earth!

Of course, there would have to be police, outside the fence, of
course, to protect those in "inside" from the "outside Mob", locked
gates and all. But that would be rather simple to accomplish.

Think of it, a wholly free population, free to do anything that they
wanted at any time. Paradise!
--
cheers,

John B.

On 6/24/2020 9:32 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:42:39 -0700, sms
wrote:

On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:

snip

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html

Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.

My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They
had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into
their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and
then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay
with their relatives.

I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas.

I think that the CHOP zones are a great idea, in fact there should be
more of them. Of course they will have to be fenced to preclude the
entrance of those horrible police so each city could partition off a
section of their area and those who descry the police could go there
to live.

Think how wonderful it would be. No more Black people being killed by
police and without those murderous police the population of the "Zone"
would have complete freedom. Truly Heaven on Earth!

Of course, there would have to be police, outside the fence, of
course, to protect those in "inside" from the "outside Mob", locked
gates and all. But that would be rather simple to accomplish.

Think of it, a wholly free population, free to do anything that they
wanted at any time. Paradise!

Well, there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania

As I understand, it's not exactly paradise, but not exactly hell.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:46:40 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 6/24/2020 9:32 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:42:39 -0700, sms
wrote:

On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:

snip

Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html

Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones.

-- Jay Beattie.

My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They
had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into
their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and
then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay
with their relatives.

I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas.

I think that the CHOP zones are a great idea, in fact there should be
more of them. Of course they will have to be fenced to preclude the
entrance of those horrible police so each city could partition off a
section of their area and those who descry the police could go there
to live.

Think how wonderful it would be. No more Black people being killed by
police and without those murderous police the population of the "Zone"
would have complete freedom. Truly Heaven on Earth!

Of course, there would have to be police, outside the fence, of
course, to protect those in "inside" from the "outside Mob", locked
gates and all. But that would be rather simple to accomplish.

Think of it, a wholly free population, free to do anything that they
wanted at any time. Paradise!

Well, there's this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania

As I understand, it's not exactly paradise, but not exactly hell.

Yes, I have read about that place. But the articles I read seemed to
say that crime, largely dope related was, well, rife, with shootings
and bomb attacks and so on and my understanding is that Danish law is
now enforced in the area, so apparently it wasn't exactly a success
story.
--
cheers,

John B.