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Mark Jones wrote:
"Zoot Katz" wrote in message ... So. Slow down. That's why they're there. Or don't slow down and trash your stinky toy. Either way you're going to whine. I'm glad Zoot said that. I'm trying hard to be diplomatic, so it's good to have someone speak right up! I don't need to slow down because I do not speed in residential areas. Too many ways to have an accident because of kids playing and people entering and leaving driveways. And this is perfectly sensible! Owning a "performance car" is no crime. The problems come when motorists (whether in performance cars or minivans) get too self-important, and impose on others. It's merely annoying when the imposition is, say, loud exhaust noise. But it's much more serious when it's speeding through residential neighborhoods to save a few seconds. If more drivers thought like Mark, traffic calming measures like speed humps would be much less necessary. And I think all of us would prefer that. -- --------------------+ Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com, replace with cc.ysu dot edu] |
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"Frank Krygowski" wrote in message
... If more drivers thought like Mark, traffic calming measures like speed humps would be much less necessary. And I think all of us would prefer that. I have to back out of my driveway, so I know what it is like for everyone else. If people want to drive their high performance cars fast, they can take them to the race track. That is what I used to do, and now I have the need to go fast out of my system. I get a lot of people following me real close because I drive at or below the speed limit on city streets. No point in driving fast, the traffic lights are the deciding factor in how long it takes to get across town on city streets. Traffic enforcement set up across from my house this spring and I thanked the policeman for trying to get people to slow down. Speeding in residential areas should carry a mandatory fine(no warnings) and some driving instruction. There are just too many little kids on bicycles who can barely ride them. Try explaining to someone that you just ran over their little kid. |
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In article , Frank Krygowski wrote:
If more drivers thought like Mark, traffic calming measures like speed humps would be much less necessary. And I think all of us would prefer that. Great. So fix the interstate speed limits and work your way down the scale of roads. Then you won't have people doing 40 on a 20 mph residential street any longer because speed limits will have their meaning restored. It's wrong to have speed limits that meaningful in some places (residential streets) and totally meaningless elsewhere due to severe underposting (55mph posted interstates) |
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"Brent P" wrote in message
news:ZF64d.236029$mD.122166@attbi_s02... Great. So fix the interstate speed limits and work your way down the scale of roads. Then you won't have people doing 40 on a 20 mph residential street any longer because speed limits will have their meaning restored. It's wrong to have speed limits that meaningful in some places (residential streets) and totally meaningless elsewhere due to severe underposting (55mph posted interstates) Most of the interstates around here are either posted at 65 or 70 mph. This is in the city. When you get on the rural interstates around Kansas City, they are all 70 mph. You only find lowered speed limits near the areas where there are a lot of on/off ramps. |
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Frank Krygowski wrote:
Mark Jones wrote: "Zoot Katz" wrote in message ... So. Slow down. That's why they're there. Or don't slow down and trash your stinky toy. Either way you're going to whine. I'm glad Zoot said that. I'm trying hard to be diplomatic, so it's good to have someone speak right up! Um, Zoot is an idiot. There are *tons* of speed bumps that I could scrape my old car on at 0.00001 MPH simply because the exhaust hung lower than the top of the speed bump. (VW Scirocco - lowered maybe 1". NOT "slammed.") Let's not mention how it feels to go over a speed bump on a bicycle! People who install speed bumps, and/or lobby for the installation of speed bumps, are quite simply rude and inconsiderate, despite their protests of inconsiderate behavior on the part of others. Not everyone drives a land barge SUV. nate -- replace "fly" with "com" to reply. http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel |
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In article . net, Mark Jones wrote:
"Brent P" wrote in message news:ZF64d.236029$mD.122166@attbi_s02... Great. So fix the interstate speed limits and work your way down the scale of roads. Then you won't have people doing 40 on a 20 mph residential street any longer because speed limits will have their meaning restored. It's wrong to have speed limits that meaningful in some places (residential streets) and totally meaningless elsewhere due to severe underposting (55mph posted interstates) Most of the interstates around here are either posted at 65 or 70 mph. This is in the city. Here they are posted between 45 and 55mph they flow at 78mph. When you get on the rural interstates around Kansas City, they are all 70 mph. That's nice. In rural kansas and through other flat featureless land they should be /// |
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Brent P wrote:
In article , Frank Krygowski wrote: If more drivers thought like Mark, traffic calming measures like speed humps would be much less necessary. And I think all of us would prefer that. Great. So fix the interstate speed limits and work your way down the scale of roads. Then you won't have people doing 40 on a 20 mph residential street any longer because speed limits will have their meaning restored. It's wrong to have speed limits that meaningful in some places (residential streets) and totally meaningless elsewhere due to severe underposting (55mph posted interstates) I think you need to work on a bigger scale. First, adjust the orbit of the earth around the sun. Get it properly circular, for gosh sake! Then synchronize the darned moon. Why can't it orbit once a month, like it ought to? Then get the earth's rotation on its axis consistent. The silly variations from 24.000 hours are so irritating! Next, there are all those other countries. How can traffic be logical if Britain still drives on the left? Fix that, dammit! Then, and _only_ then, should we begin overhauling our interstate system. Minimum six lanes in each direction everywhere, and no silly speed limits. After that, the major US highways. Then the minor US highways. Complete overhauls, fix ALL the problems. Then the state highways (in all _other_ states first, of course.) Then all the county roads. Then all the township roads. Then, and _only_ then, should we consider the actual problem: that people are driving too fast on the village's Elm Street, or whereever. -- --------------------+ Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com, replace with cc.ysu dot edu] |
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In article , Frank Krygowski wrote:
First, adjust the orbit of the earth around the sun. Get it properly circular, for gosh sake! Frank has no rebuttle. |
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Nate Nagel wrote:
There are *tons* of speed bumps that I could scrape my old car on at 0.00001 MPH simply because the exhaust hung lower than the top of the speed bump. (VW Scirocco - lowered maybe 1". NOT "slammed.") Let's not mention how it feels to go over a speed bump on a bicycle! People who install speed bumps, and/or lobby for the installation of speed bumps, are quite simply rude and inconsiderate, despite their protests of inconsiderate behavior on the part of others. Not everyone drives a land barge SUV. nate Nate, please google "speed hump" to see what we're actually talking about. You're talking about something else. The vocabulary is well accepted by people who know this subject. Speed BUMPS are short in the direction of travel (8" to perhaps 30"), feature steep slopes (as much as 45 degrees) and can't be driven over at much above a walking speed. Speed HUMPS are as long as 14 feet in the direction of travel, feature smooth slopes, and can be driven comfortably at speeds like 25 mph, depending on their design. They cause discomfort at higher speeds. The idea is to keep speeds down to the speed limit in residential areas or pedestrian areas - not to keep speeds down to 0.00001 mph. -- Frank Krygowski [To reply, remove rodent and vegetable dot com. Substitute cc dot ysu dot edu] |
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In article ZF64d.236029$mD.122166@attbi_s02,
Brent P wrote: In article , Frank Krygowski wrote: If more drivers thought like Mark, traffic calming measures like speed humps would be much less necessary. And I think all of us would prefer that. Great. So fix the interstate speed limits and work your way down the scale of roads. Then you won't have people doing 40 on a 20 mph residential street any longer because speed limits will have their meaning restored. It's wrong to have speed limits that meaningful in some places (residential streets) and totally meaningless elsewhere due to severe underposting (55mph posted interstates) Wouldn't matter. Even if everyone driving through Frank's neighborhood was doing the speed limit or below, he'd still complain they were going "too fast" and want some sort of "traffic calming" installed. He probably sits out on his front lawn yelling at everyone who drives by that he doesn't know to "slow down". I've had such people yell at me while I'm driving in my Miata -- only to look down and see I'm already doing less than the limit. |
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